Thought Art

Lee Holden is a great teacher for learning Qigong. He teaches basics to things like microcosmic orbit, the three treasures, etc. He has weekly classes, weekly Q and As and plenty of videos and work shops to do. Look up Holden Qigong. I am currently getting my Qigong certification. He was actually trained by Mantak Chia since he was like 23. They are good friends.

I think it's important to direct people to where they need to go

I wanted to make a thread stressing the point that "There is no reason to end your life pre-maturely". There is so much to live for. The spiritual path is about the death of our falsely constructed ego. Life has so many chapters that you have yet to experience. Stay safe out there. And keep your body safe, your health high and don't quit self actualizing. You are here to experience this world and live a full life. People love you and its important to remember that.

Great book is called towards a psychology of awakening... Finding the balance between horiziontal (personality, relationships, etc) vs Vertical growth (spiritual awakening) is important.

I felt like Leo was both encouraging and discouraging God Mode. What to think I wonder? How do I know I am safe to enter God Mode? Does God mode turn off after the trip and just return to normal?? The bread crumb thing makes sense to me. But, is to be confirmed upon actualizing of God Mode. Hard to believe it honestly ahah.

Grateful

Yeah this seems like a brain teaser to me too. There is something wrong about the way he is explaining other people. Whether it's his actual metaphysics or just the way he is framing and explaining that. Is Thought Art the only bubble of experience on the forum? I doubt it. The problem I notice here, is that even basic assumptions of reality down to it's core can be questioned. I have more questions than answers when it comes to deep metaphysical trivialities.

I think I like the work. I think I've misinterpreted things and gotten confused a few times along my journey. But, I personally take responsibility for those mistakes. It's hard because reality is so complex and nuanced and I am still just beginning to understand life. I think sometimes maybe you are so advanced that the teaches can feed into people imaginations and own internal story telling. I don't really care for how you seem to teach that we are all alone, and that other people are imaginary. That doesn't yet make sense to me on any practical level. Sure, people and memories are imaginary but they also ground people in reality. I do not believe that I am just typing this sentence out and no one will actually read it etc. I personally think this is dangerous and a useless teaching. Perhaps you are wording it in the wrong way. Is the entire universe really hands on a laptop typing this? Or is the universe more than that.. like the billions of people doing stuff around the world... for me its just my hands, but idk I love the love, consciousness, life purpose stuff etc. Overall grateful for the work and the forum. I know I personally need to keep growing and taking more responsibility for my own life. I especially enjoy the talks on integrity and wisdom, life long learning, habits, life purpose, escaping wage slavery, what is fear, what is authority, what is God, etc. You have not ever told me to harm myself. Though, some teachings have been disturbing or ungrounding at times. But, I am aware that there is danger on this path. I would say that even though I have misused these teachings in the past because, frankly I only have one go at life and I make mistakes all the time. That, where I see my life headed right now is overall positive. I think I have to take full responsibility for my life. I have also miss applied things and miss understood things. At times questioning what it really means if I am God... But, I might be God, but the universe is a hard place that God can fuck up it's life brutally. So, it ain't fairy dust. You have said so many things in the videos, many of which I am slowly. beginning to experience.

So does Leo have a conscious experience? Seems he would.

@Vynce God has eternity on it's hands. It's patience is way beyond a human. 1000 years is just 1 life lived. To me anyway, existentially.

Try some Qigong. That is how I fixed up my lower back. I have heard from a number of people now that Chiropractic is bs. But, same people have benefitted from Qigong.

Use your intelligence and own understanding of nuance.

Like all things be wise!

In Leo's newest video he seems to try to break the forth wall in some ways. Saying things like, it's just me, and I created Leo etc... If it is just me, then why are there all these other people on the forum? Is that just my infinite intelligence messing with me? I am alright it is just me. I don't mind being alone in the universe. But, I would like a little more control over what is taking place in my life. I don't need full God awakening, just a little bit more. I think it is funny that Leo talks to like 30,000 a week. Yet it's just me and him and he doesn't even have his own awareness? That doesn't make sense... I mean anything is possible. But it seems a bit threatening to the sovereignty of my mind if I let a self deception screw up my metaphysics in that way.

Lee Holden, Vernon Howard

Feel what you feel

I don't know I am God. Yet. had a few experiences by they don't stick.

@Anon212 Lol, you won!

Sure, I've seen that and been there. But I am not there right now. I am here, ego is here. It's part of the dream.

Hmm, Phd sounds pretty good to me. I took the route of exploring my passions. I am not done, glad I did it. but a Phd sounds nice. It will be up to you! There are no wrong answers. A Phd would be great though. Life is long

No that isn't what I mean. I am not talking about identity. I am talking about bubbles of awareness that exist other than mine.

@James123 I think enlightenment is more. There is my direct experience and survival needs that don't cease. So, I get I am imagining things but thats cool. Nothing changes. Give me something powerful.

I think I understand all that already. I just don't understand the idea of other beings yet. Do you have a bubble? Leo claims he doesn't. So no one must either. Which is fine.

I know this stuff... But, Leo's new video is beyond that.

He says "there are no other bubbles except you"... so. Not sure how to take it. That I left bread crumbs for myself to follow to awaken after my incarnation here on earth. He says he doesn't have a consciousness or his own bubble or experiences He says I just imagine other people and I have artificially limited myself to be here and I just imagine all of you. Not sure if you all finish the new video or not, or if you even can lol meta doesn't mean much I think once we get into going so meta, that I realize that its just me the whole time and that all size, time, lives etc is arbitrary backdrop to explain away my current experience. It's all arbitrary at this point.