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Each tool or practice has it's own practice. They help and aid each other. 1 5meodmt trip blows meditation out of the water for deep God experience. But for day to day mindfulness and training your mind meditation is better. They help eachother. Become integral

"There is more to reality than what humans can perceive, therefore reality itself is an illusion" I think is not the full picture of what Deepak and mystics are saying. They are saying the entire way you see reality is relative, and even reality is relative therefore it's an illusion of consciousness.

There no fear of being destroyed. This is the place for these conversations. I think you think you are pointing out flaws but you aren't really backing anything up. You are just saying what you think imo. Every single person has flaws. That is human.

Wrong about? To me what you are saying about authority is obvious at this point. Though, also an important reminder. Like I have already said... I am epistemologically humble. Leo does get a relative authority over others in my view simply do to the nature of his situation in life. I of course read and learn from many sources. We can all be wrong. Do you think professional basket ball players always get every shot? It is a matter of accuracy. What is he right or wrong about? You don't know. That is the point. So, we go about doing the work.

How do you know who is an authority? Did you actually confirm this in your own experience or was it a belief? I will take time to read that thread in a couple weeks I think. I am just getting into the Krya book list stuff. Leo isn't infallible I think for sure. But, he has a very unique perspective. Thankfully, if it did happen the forum exists for these types of corrections to take place for us. anyway.

I agree. But, Mastery is not simply the amount of years you took some drugs or substances, or even the amount of years you did a profession. It is a mindset and you can pursue mastery (Leo literally works full time on this, while I think Rob has a day job) in a different way. You can far surpass someone of 20 years experience in 5 years if you train way smarter and have more time to dedicate to the craft. You have to really look at what the two people are doing. Did you practice everyday for 5 years 8 hours a day with all the best resources? Or did you know about and enjoy a thing for 20 years on the weekend? Big difference.

You wouldn't know because you haven't read books like you claim. So, you may be right that it is blind leading the blind. But, it is also possible you are so ignorant and uneducated you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Not meaning offence, I am personally epistemologically humbled.. So I see that way. Which is why I remain open as I gain more raw knowledge and experience to contemplate and grow.

This is not necessarily true. They are very different types of people with different types of educations, experiences, epistomologies and amounts of free time raw hours put into contemplating this stuff. Leo is an intellectual and Rob is a self proclaimed average Joe. "sorry i have not read any metaphysics and epistamology . i am speaking with a mastery lense" My opinion is your lens lacks holism. You contradict yourself with that statement. I think at because you proclaim your ignorance of a wider understanding of reality (which is what we are really talking about)

Best thing to do for me is to be open to all perspectives. But, do the work being grounded in truth instead of defending any pet theory.

I thought i would be a good idea to share a personal finance thread for links and tips on how to gain awareness and systems for personal finances. I am in the process of updating my own system and found this simple video. Good luck to improving or creating new habits so you can plan long term. I used to use premade sheets (or just honestly go by the seat of my pants for years)... To me this is the most foundational habit you can install for long term achieving.

If you have trouble consider doing a guided live session. I know of one that happens online every saturday night.

I personally resonate with what Deepak is saying and I do wish that Adeptus would: 1. Be more kind and compassionate to people who have different views than him in general 2. Be more humble and open minded toward him and to see what he is really saying before he says what he is saying is bullshit. I also think adeptus makes good points within his own logical and rational understanding of things. I think that it is true that there is no reality. What you call 'reality' is completely relative to the 'state' or 'manifestation' you are in.That it is completely relative and that depending on the way reality is dreaming at the time it is dream that is what is relatively true. What Adeptus calls reality, just regular old dumb reality is an illusion, and the models he has of reality are illusion too. So it's relative illusion nested in relative illusion. Everything is COMPLETELY relative even time. There is no reality. Just the reality that is. compared to nothing. Who can reality turn to to ask if it is reality? Nothing. Just this awareness here. Even amongst humans the way reality is seen is relative which is why him using the definition of reality in the way he does lacks any absolute meaning to me. Because we all have different epistemology and experiential understanding of reality. I personally think (though I love Rob as a fellow human) that he is arrogant to think that he understands more than other people and feels the need to shit on people. I have nothing against him grounding himself in rational, materialism out of fear of losing his mind from psychedelics. Personally, I am humbled by everything I am learning about reality. I am open minded and I see relative truth in both his and Deepaks views. I think the case that reality is an illusion is just way to strong when you go deep enough to ignore it. But, to see that takes study, open minded and the ability to embrace radical paradox which Rob does not do. I don't know if he is much of a reader? There is lots he can read about this stuff from lots of different experts. Reality and truth require open mindedness and the ability to hold simultaneous seeming paradoxes. But, that doesn't mean we shouldn't master our survival, or take our health seriously. I think Rob firmly grounds and identifies with his life, mind, body, and perspective on reality. Which is useful for selfish survival but not understanding the absolute nature of reality. The ego I think can't fully grasp that it's a construct of infinite consciousness. Welcome to relativity, perspective and interpretation. I am still forming my understanding of reality and will likely be humble for many years to come. We will see. "The tao that can be spoken is not the eternal tao"

There is video footage of actual protests lol... I am sure it is satire but.. anyway.

This area of his teaching I think is dangerous and could be an ego game. From MY perspective, he has no consciousness. That is true. But the same goes for everyone else. I mean, we can't all be the only awareness bubble. Then again, we could. This goes beyond my understanding and I am curious about all of this. Can't we all have our own awareness and be God? This seems arbitrary. Leo doesn't exist, but he chased pleasure in the past? I admit I am imagining everything outside of my present experience. I am not following Leo's logic in the God realization video. The entire thing doesn't really make sense to me.

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Yea music therapy, I thought about studying this too. They offer it at Acadia university. I've worked alongside music therapists while I worked with autistic children. It seems like a decent gig!

Talk therapy, reading, etc

Made a short video sharing my experience with Actualized.org.

No They are videos and a book list

What makes you special to only need 1?

I think raising a little person into an adult and teaching them all the life lessons I wish I had growing up will be nice.

Honestly sounds like a good thing. You can deeply contemplate this for yourself and make the decision I think is best.

No longer in use eh?

I am in Nova Scotia, it's been real hot