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Okay, but at least be an actual skeptic. Be skeptical of your own skeptisism. Go all the way.

Yes, we do use definitions to communicate. But, the same word for me means something different for you, at least in subtly. Every human has a unique set of database, education etc. So, the same word can mean something different to different people. It's part of relativity. Have you heard of the socratic method? Words have a lot of weight for individuals beyond the text book definition. We need to take time with people to figure out what their words mean. I don't know what exactly you are refering to, proof for what? Yes, I have proven abilities beyond normal western paradigm. I even sent you a documentary that shows you video and teaches you how to start to access it. But, you are doing what you are afraid of. Just in the opposite direction. Blindly believing they are false. Beleiving its not real, instead of confirming it. Which, I am offering you do. But, you aren't really interested in knowing. You just want to argue. Don't believe anything or be dogmatic. Rule 1 of Actualized.org. Night my friend!

You need to be intelligent in the type of pain. If you read "Pain is good for growth" and ask your friend to smash you over the head with a bat, then you aren't applying growth concepts with intelligence. This is part of the limitations of language, logic, reason etc is that it's like a programming language. You need to include paradox, nuance etc in your programming. Nuance nuance nuance.

Does it? Or is that something you believe. Maybe you just think that. That is not an open minded response.

Don't believe it. Just, expand the type of questions you are asking. Expand and allow. Take all those fears, concerns etc and write them down. Go read books, watch videos. Become nuanced in the skeptiscm. It's good you are skeptical. There are lots of false claims, delusions, etc. But, there is gold nuggets and truths out there are really interesting. I am still learning and making sense of things too. At this point though, I've experienced things, seen things and met people with amazing abilities. To me it seems like you aren't open minded. You can entertain ideas without believing them. That is open mindedness, exploring ideas without clinging to them as truth or not truth. But demanding proof, proof that has to fit your rules and ideas without even doing research is foolishness. Be flexible, be patient. You wont get truth tonight. Maybe the method of truth you are asking for isn't how it even works. What is true? What isn't? This is all good stuff.

What kind of telepathy was Leo having? What are isn't nuances and contexts? Was it with another person? Can he control it or is it something that happens at certain times? What does he mean by that word? Reality isn't actually a "You can or you can't".

There is literally double blind studies proving these things exist, and footage. Go read a book you fool, watch the documentary series. You aren't really showing your a person of integrity. You claim to want answers but then you play mind games to avoid actually doing the work or studying to find out. These things are real. You yourself have to go beyond words and DO THE work. It's gonna be word games unless you go and do something about it. You shouldn't believe anything. You believing isn't my issue. It's your manner, your approach, your aggression and rudeness towards others. I get it. It's like, what the fuck are you guys talking about? Powers?

Okay, I am done with this fool. Your not going to open your mind. The documentary is made by my teacher Lee Holden.

Lol, this is basically idiocy. "If your powers don't work like I think they should then they aren't real". Maybe, you just don't know how they work or what the nuances are. Or, maybe they are delusion. Either way, you are just playing with beliefs. I can't say what anyone else can do. I don't know Leo outside the camera. I sent you a video showing that people have these abilities. You don't want to watch it you want to pick on Leo and others. The real question should be are these things real at ALL or not? Not who has them and doesn't. Though, that is important too.

No, he claimed he would try to heal himself. He didn't. Then He made a different claim of telepathy which he stands by. Look, you can waste all day wondering what someone else can do but why not put in the work, read some books and do some practices. Then you can KNOW. Your just playing in dogshit.

@johnlocke18 I just sent you video proof of super normal powers. Your making yourself look foolish right now. Don't ask for proof of these things being possible and then deny it when I send it to you. Also, stop selectively choosing what Leo said and didn't say. Your distorting reality. Can we lock this? This fool only wants to argue instead of doing the work himself.

@johnlocke18 https://superhumanexperience.io/ There is this, and plenty of footage online. There are schools around the world teaching kids to see while blind folded and to move objects at a distance. They have plenty of footage. Some is in the documentary above. It's also hard to share with others implicit insights. Leo is more of a leader of thought, insight and big picture.

@asifarahim Haven't watched the video yet, but think and grow rich has really good information in it. It's practical and obvious stuff once you read it. Using his book I've achieved a lot of interesting and profound success in my music career. The principles he teaches are useful. I personally enjoyed the book. There is really good information in it, but like anything I don't believe the whole thing aha BUT, he has so much good wisdom! No, law of success pre-dates napolian hill.. Wallace wattles? Maybe even earlier. Think and Grow Rich still a great book. The book talks a lot more than law of attraction, or its all about mindset. The book has knowledge that is useful. From the sounds of it he was a liar and a con much throughout his life. But, think and grow rich has lots of good information. Man , reality is so complex and confusing. No no no, think and grow does not say "Just think about it and be wishful" It's got really good practical mindset, and practical principles I've used for success. I don't know the kind of life he lived prior to writing it, but, for those who have read it it goes well beyond magical thinking. He lays out strong principles of training your mind, how to be a good leader of integrity and how to create mastermind groups. He also lays out an old school way of creating resume and cover letter which is still relavant today. His work helped me score my last dream job. I like Coffee zilla, but uh, I need to learn more. The book is great regardless.

Yeah, well I thought that meant that he wouldn't be able to see whether or not he was running a cult. I think I know it was an analogy Rob. Don't be a goose. You also made it explicit you don't think he was trying to run a cult. But, It wasn't clear where you were standing when I watched it. It seemed like you grouped about 40,000 weekly listening into a group of fools. But, I also know you've said a few times you know we aren't all the same. It's one guy talking in videos for hours. Though, we all share many other teachings, Gurus, books, videos, etc here. So, the common thread is Leo but we are all different. I am not blaming anyone for seeing your content that takes a critique on Leo and then combats you. You sort of ask for it in your tone, manner and editing. It's human nature. I don't fully understand your motives yet. So, I will observe and ask questions, let you know what I am thinking.

There are different powers. He thought at one time he could heal his stomach problems, but could not. I don't know Leo's mind. So, I can't speak for him. But I would like us to open up for more nuanced possibilities. You might not have healed yourself, but, you may have had some telepathic experiences. I think you can say, I was right about some things wrong about other things. Which again, in different contexts is a daily occurrence we all experience. Ever get 82% on an exam? How is an exam even possible? How does anything exist at all? Who am I? What is consciousness? (It's God, the truth playing with itself) I've had prophetic dreams ever since I was a child. With a high degree of accuracy on things I never would have expected. Also, Qi is real, telepathy is real, seeing without eyes is also possible. You can move objects with your mind. I have done this and seen footage. It's normal among advanced Qigong practitioners. It's just not accepted in our culture yet. The same intelligence you are made of, holds planets and galaxies in place. Don't undersell what God can do.

Yes, I see what you mean in some regards. However, in your video you made a case that it was actually a cult. You said something like "Just because so and so says scientology isn't a cult doesn't mean it isn't one" So, Kindly again I have trouble telling if you are acting of full integrity here.

He can be

I find this interesting. I see Leo questioning his beliefs and word views as literally what his job is. Disagreeing is normal and healthy. We can do so without fighting one another.

Hey, this is a good question because we don't want this to be a cult. Can you explain the cult psychology you see developing?

Yes, this is a good point. Something that needs to be discussed more and addressed. Because, we can't know if anyone else actually exists. Even in a materialist paradigm this is the case in some ways. We are literally imagining everything in a 'brain' or we are imagining everything as a singular being in a void... I can tell you I exist, that I have my own bubble. But, you will never experience my bubble. So, you are sort of alone in your own universe. I am.

I understand that is your interpretation of the situation and respect that. From what I have studied about Cults, Actualized isn't a Cult. It's a school or teaching and nothing shared here is anything new. It's information that is spread throughout many religions, cultures, etc. It's just neatly packaged into lectures. What is rational vs irrational is depending on your world view you know. We aren't all going to just bow down to anyone who has a different world view than us. Leo did not back down a lot of his understandings. There is something called the 'transrational fallacy", where things that are outside of rationality are seen as irrational or false. Deeply contemplate what rationality is, and you might find it actually has a lot of limitations. Which is does, it's one of many cognitive processes and ways of interacting with the same world we all inhabit. Everyone in this community has their own unique perspective. That is the point of seeking liberation imo. Gound yourself in high truths, and create your own life. Yeah, people get upset because this is something we enjoy. It's a given to happen. You kind of feed off this don't you? hehe, I am sure it's fun. Yeah, and you are right. I have my own interpretations of your videos. You are concerned about truth, as we are all here. And you want to protect your world view, what you think reality is and how it works and to protect other people. You also want to feel smarter or better than other people. Which, is very human.

I think as long as we learn to see ourselves as one, and become more loving and develop a dialogue to push human experience forward I am game.

I don't know if I understand you exactly.

Hey, you know. Interpretation is like that. You didn't take what Leo was saying as matter of fact, as I think I tried. He was sharing matter of fact dangers of these substances. As well as that he was wrong about insights at times. Doesn't mean every insight was wrong. Like, when you do anything in life there is a % of error. You are acting as if you took what he said in a neutral way, they we all would interpret it in the same way. Reality isn't like that as far as I have noticed. We all read into the same words or facts differently. You saw what you saw in it, and shared it in a way that was... It was pretty offensive I think. I appreciate you and your videos. But, my critique for you is that you sometimes go too far in being offensive and "Holier than thou" or, better than you or something. Then you feel like you have the right to shame people for what you perceive as their short comings. No one here wants to hurt you. We love you man.

@wildflower We are all one. Don't create duality and conflict where there doesn't need to be. If you know that already, why are you arguing with yourself?