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I thought there were some good essays in this https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/646175.Modern_Man_in_Search_of_a_Soul

So, as I have been processing along my spiritual and self actualizing journey a common thread that has come up is: Self deception. I think when we begin this journey we are so thoroughly self deceived, selfish, ignorant, desperate, confused, etc that wrapping our head around ideas like nihilism, freedom, life purpose, God realization/ spiritual awakening is a risky and challenging endeavour. I have been and will continue to put my mental models of reality to the test as I continue to clear up my mind, become wise, integrated, sane and balanced. Sometimes a common occurrence for me is a sense of guilt or shame about a past believe, action, thought, idea etc that was based in self deception. This is often met with a fear of how deceived I am right now in this present moment. If I have been deceived in the past why not be deceived right now? HoweverI realized that self deception is so powerful and deep that there is really nothing to be ashamed of. Self deception is the norm on planet earth. So, be easy on yourself and make small efforts every single day to aligned more and more with truth. We are all foolish, make mistakes and have elements in our past which are less than ideal and we must accept that our pasts are how they had to be to get us to where we are now.

Maybe pick a few that seem relavant. I think we should just be collected courses, teachers etc for our 10-20 year plan of life long learning.

What are you even asking?

Okay, so at 3:43 in the interview, Leo has just talked prior about going to fortune tellers/ reiki healers. He goes to 5 different healers, each who give him different explanation as to why he is having the problems he is having. Then he spent four hours with a dark energy healer. He went to these 6 individuals with no results and yet he doesn't consider them delusional, only that they are in different realities. Sure they live in different realities. Leo also went to many doctors in the western model to heal his stomach issues and none of that works. Yet, we don't consider doctors delusional. If I went to 5 western medical specialist about my stomach issue and they all have me different reasons I would consider them to have different expert opinions, or some to be wrong or some to be right. But, I wouldn't consider them delusional as I would if I went to different mystics and had different opinions. This whole truth thing is very challenging. I am personally of the opinion that healing energy work and things like reiki, Qigong, yoga, breath work, chanting, listening to music, tuning forks etc have a positive affect on aspects of the body. These practices promote health, relaxation and the spiritual aesthetic needs of humans. Yet, they are not the same of getting a vaccine or something like that. I guess, whether its western medicine, traditional Chinese medicine, mysticism, science etc that we as humans embody so many aspects of reality that each of these schools of thought address different aspects of the human experience. But, we need to be honest and clear with ourselves about the validity or intent behind using these professionals. There should be no bias given to one or the other, except in that we are being intelligent in our approach and usage of these schools. It's not black and white as far as I can tell. Its not like, western science good mysticism bad. There is truth and falsehood and varying degrees of effectiveness strung out through all domains of human existence. I have had deep mystical experiences under the care of a tantric priestess while at a sexual shamanic online festival. But, I would like more to confirm it. For example, I know first hand that Qigong is real as I practice it everyday and have first hand experience of Qi energy and am intuiting my abilities in the next 20 years. Yet, someone else could just be some asshole who took too many mushrooms and now thinks he is an alien who is a light worker who has to tell heal the world. He may think he can cure cancer, while all I am doing as a Qigong teacher is helping people to stretch and circulate their life for energy better. Two seemingly woo woo things to most people yet I think Qigong has validity, while the alien light-worker is smoking something. Like, the field of nutrition: So many different opinions. Are most nutritionist completely deluded in the same way, or similar ways as a dark energy healer who sees demons and energies that don't exist? I am really only interested in what is true so I can build a business that helps people and is based in truth. Listening to Leo's explainations about his energy healing and that he doesn't consider them delusional I felt like he was in self deception territory. If I went to a doctor who was a quake, not follower professional protocol which was leading to chronic deaths and spreading of disease we wouldn't say he was just living in a different reality. People may live in different realities in their mind, which in some context is fine imo when it comes to aesthetic and spiritual experience. But, when it comes to healing and domains of life that pertain to healing we need the tool to actually address and fix the problem. An artist's cognition may be allow for more aesthetic loosey goosie ness, but surely healing must actually work or it's a scam and self deception, or simply not the right tool for the job. If I went to an energy healer who made bold claims about the results I would be upset if I didn't have results. I remember someone on the forum a few weeks ago who was claiming to have healing powers and was 'healing people' on the forum. Which he wasn't he was full of shit and Leo banned him. So, is this medicine actually poison and snake oil? Is this spiritual healer actually a quake and self confused? What are their motivations? Proof? Reasons? Results? I am just noting here that every single external authority I come across has varying degrees of accuracy. I need to be able to take actualized.orgs model as a subset of a larger model I am creating. There is too much risk for Leos self deceptions here. I don't think he is wrong about infinity, and I love his passion and am very grateful for the immense amount of wisdom. But, I just need to always realized I can be self deceived and that I likely am. And, therefore, I cannot gauge accurately the self deception of another. So he question is: When it comes to healing, is it not important that the act of healing actually creates a tangible result in person. If not, what are the implications of the method? Was it the wrong method for the problem? was it a pseudo claim and the person was a scam artists or a self deceived hack? How do I reconcile that some modern medical practices are limited and problematic, while many work.... The same seems true of spiritual practices such as journaling, meditation, body scans, visualization, some energy work practices, Qigong, yoga, breathwork, pschedelics etc What is the difference between Aesthetic cause-play and science? or, Art and science? They both exist, but have different relative applications and are not mutually exclusive. Honestly, Arcadefire is right in their song "Powerout" -"Growing up in some strange storm... Nobodies Cold nobodies Warm.. So I went out into the night... I went out to find some light (to pick a fight with anyone)" I will absorb all this material and I will transcend falsehood and delusion more and more. I sense Leo may have a high degree of accuracy. But, I am making sure I continue to go meta beyond him and ground myself in something that is both spiritually aesthetic, practical and that is true and works.

@hyruga It was one of the first I watched. I must have watched it a few times.

I don't think people should eat it or use MAOI

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Do not use 5meo with a MAOI

maybe do yoga or qigong

Interesting mix of scientific and spiritual appeals very passionate. I sympathize with her feeling this way given the information streams that exist. "I know a time is coming... All words will lose their meaning..." Arcadefire

@Windappreciator Yes I am also a real person with real flaws. I heal through Qigong atm. I am on my own path, the wounded healer...

Oh my name it ain't nothin' My age it means less The country I come from Is called the Midwest I was taught and brought up there The laws to abide And that land that I live in Has God on its side Oh, the history books tell it They tell it so well The cavalries charged The Indians fell The cavalries charged The Indians died Oh, the country was young With God on its side The Spanish-American War had its day And the Civil War, too Was soon laid away And the names of the heroes I was made to memorize With guns in their hands And God on their side The First World War, boys It came and it went The reason for fighting I never did get But I learned to accept it Accept it with pride For you don't count the dead When God's on your side The Second World War Came to an end We forgave the Germans And then we were friends Though they murdered six million In the ovens they fried The Germans now, too Have God on their side I've learned to hate the Russians All through my whole life If another war comes It's them we must fight To hate them and fear them To run and to hide And accept it all bravely With God on my side But now we got weapons Of chemical dust If fire them, we're forced to Then fire, them we must One push of the button And a shot the world wide And you never ask questions When God's on your side Through many a dark hour I've been thinkin' about this That Jesus Christ was Betrayed by a kiss But I can't think for you You'll have to decide Whether Judas Iscariot Had God on his side. So now as I'm leavin' I'm weary as Hell The confusion I'm feelin' Ain't no tongue can tell The words fill my head And fall to the floor That if God's on our side He'll stop the next war I know you're living in my mind It's not the same as being alive I know you're living in my mind It's not the same as being alive Supersymmetry Supersymmetry If telling the truth is not polite Then I guess you'll have to fight If telling the truth is not polite Then I guess we'll have to fight Supersymmetry Supersymmetry Supersymmetry Supersymmetry I lived for a year, in the bed by the window Reading books, better than memories Wanna feel the seasons passing Wanna feel the spring Of supersymmetry Supersymmetry Supersymmetry Supersymmetry It's been a while since I've been to see you I don't know where, but you're not with me Heard a voice, like an echo But it came from me Supersymmetry Supersymmetry (supersymmetry) Supersymmetry (supersymmetry) Supersymmetry (supersymmetry) Ah, lalala lala Ah, lalala lala Ah, lalala lala Ah, lalala lala Supersymmetry Supersymmetry

up to you and the amount of time and energy you have. How can anyone answer that for you?

Leo is a reflektorrrrr

@asifarahim Yup! This https://www.yogaanytime.com/px/Ashtanga-2&wickedsource=google&wickedid=Cj0KCQjwssyJBhDXARIsAK98ITQ2-1CxJXx4HPqF8eNnU572jzR0ToNeUUVklfzoGqo88DsNTv5iNpgaAskuEALw_wcB&wickedid={creative}&wv=3.1?wickedsource=google&wv=3.1 and plenty of others. I didn't realize how lucky I was to have an ashtanga teacher when I was young who let me train for free.

Online is fine too Pros and cons depending on your needs and wants. I've been doing Ashtanga yoga and tonnes of sports since I was 9 so I know my body pretty well. Online is great because you can do it whenever you want for as long as you want. You can also book online sessions with teachers to talk about technique etc.

Yup. There is medical, spiritual and martial Qigong. Kung Fu is a type of Qigong.

After 2 weeks it's 40 dollars a month. You could also just buy one or two videos of his and do thing throughout the week. You can also see some free videos on youtube. There are plenty of books with poses, theories and sequences and others schools of Qigong. Personally I found it worth the investment I have purchased the subscription, many of the workshops and I am doing teacher training and it's been very rewarding. Don't need to commit to anything. If you like it and want to keep going, then go ahead but theres lots in of techniques in spiritual practice an we can't do them all at once so find something you enjoy and put a year or two into I think. If you don't invest money into your growth, you wont grow.

I sense I am both a bit wise, but also rather foolish in my life... I am wise in that I am embracing life long learning and I realize the importance of developing my wisdom during my 20's and over the rest of my life. I think in some levels I am wise beyond my years, or culture. Yet, in other ways I am still a child. I read everyday I realize the importance of life long learning I realize the importance of infinite love and understanding I realize the Goodness of Gods grace I realize the importance of integrity, wisdom, self love and holism I realize the importance of psychedelics, yoga, qigong, journaling and contemplation I realize the importance of a clear mind, sharp intellect and strong grasp of mathmatical concepts, I realize the importance of developing hard and soft skills I realize the importance of developing my own soverneigty I realize that I am God and I am pure consciousness. I realize that the only thing to do in the universe is to increase your consciousness, to love more and serve more and more selflessly to others I realize the importance of taking full responsibility for my actions, my state, my decisions and any consequences that arrise I realize that aspects of life, including certain success or harm cannot be undone I am beginning to accept death as I no long think it is possible I invest in education, mental health, spiritual development I am learning to be kind to myself, to forgive myself for my mistakes and to let go of the past I am learning to have proper priorities I am realize how I construct meaning around me and how mechanical I have lived up until now I am realizing that my biggest enemy in life is a lack of wisdom, integrity and maturity. This is the cause of all my suffering and the harm I have caused to others in my life. I realize that I am absolutely nothing and that I am immortal. But, maybe I am playing this weird game with myself in this dualistic domain. I realize the different between implicit and explicit understanding of reality I have a strong taste for infinity. I am foolish in that I am Impulsive Short sighted Addicted Fearful Assume too much I don't have a strong enough grasp on metaphysics and epistemology I lie to myself and others I sometimes do dangerous and reckless things I have a weak financial psychology I don't always do what I say I am going to do and I often pay the price for this I don't plan well enough yet I often neglect my sleeping routine though I am seeing improvement I don't have self trust because I often break my own word I can be jealous, selfish, petty, paranoid, angry, toxic, fearful, unconscious I think over the next 5-10 years a lot of growth will be happening. I feel like I am now just beginning to wrap my head around Leo's work and my recent enlightenment experiences are slowly but surely being integrated into practicality and survival. I don't fully trust myself. My biggest fears are hurting others or myself because I over look something, or act foolishly ( I think a large percentage of my life has been this foolishness. God gave me so potential at birth. A beatuiful olympian quality body, a safe beautiful place to life, privilege... Yet, I couldn't see the gift I was given . I really don't want to fuck this up, so please God. Allow me to become wise and self actualize without totally fucking this up. I fully realize that I can fuck this up, end up in jail or harm others if I am not careful. There is nothing special about Jared. He is just a human, ignorant and prone to impulsive decision making. He also has a deep profound love for all beings. I would like to be peace, love, forgiveness, understanding and health. I would like to become a reflector of Gods highest joy and love and to lead others. However, I am not leader. Not yet. I am still a fucking fool. But, I love myself more and more and I know I have the capacity to be wise. How many years will it take to become more wise? How many more mistakes will I have to make? How many more times will I potentially hurt myself or others? Or lose out on promising opportunities? How much longer will I be a child of illusion, lost in my own mind not being able to see reality as it is? How can I make higher quality distinctions? How can I rest in infinite love regardless of external circumstances? How many blind spots and areas of ignorance do I have? How can I ACTUALLY become wise. I can sense I am bit by bit. I also know the future it unknown and anything could happen in the next second.

I watched a lot of Oprah as a kid when at my grandmothers. I think she is a good woman! Her booklist shares books with Leo's

Lol, stop being a pussy and stop labeling things like that

Did you run the numbers? If you got a lot for education maybe you can do both.