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Hmm, I'll have to dance with this one ahah

I think it's just over some nuances. The amount of time I have agree/argued with spiritual people is hilarious. We agree but don't at the same time it's interesting. There are so many nuances to spirituality and what people are seeing it as and what they want over it. Though, each week a seeker changes so its just a current.. I find after a trip I just want to hug everyone around me, to see my friends for the first time. To play with my brothers and sisters and to live in harmony and creativity forever. But, not everyone feels that way at humanities level of development. People are scared of love. Sometimes during I just want to hug people so much... I just want to hug...connect and be without all these boundaries' we have. Let's dance naked and share secrets and develop ourselves wooo! (That is my inner tantrica) But, I've learned you need to lay still and ask for hugs afterward. I am still early on my journey btw. I have ups and downs but am grateful for all the tools I collect and as I learn to use them maturely. I think I finally understand what 5meo Isn't. As it was creating a lot of metaphyiscal questions for me in combination with ego, and Leo's teachings confusing me. But, I sense I am integrating these experience in a much mature light than I had been. Safety should be the first and foremost concern. Go slow. What is great about 5meo is just how clean it is and how short the trip is. I don't want to trip for 8 hours, or have all the mental distortions of mushrooms at this stage in my life. I just want to connect to infinity, love, integrate, journal, maybe cry a few times and tell those around me how much I love and respect them. It's important to have people around you who are mature enough to hold space with you, and who want to experience the love as well. Some people just aren't ready or mature enough to share that space... People who wont demonize you for taking it. Or hit you or something while tripping. I've had some scary experiences where my ego was scared, but the vast majority have been very positive. It's amazing how free you feel afterward. So accepted, loved and playful even for me. I can become really playful I find too. It's interesting. Still learning. I've noticed that there are many layers to a 5meo experience depending on dosage etc, Really, I think the experience will make the world a much better, more loving place. It does need to be used maturely as it's very strong. But, also very loving. I think I am still wrapping my head around it. It has shown me a love that will guide my life. I really love all you folks. Forever. For science! for Love!

@Rilles I am sure others will contribute over time. This book speaks about that too.

@Rilles It's a great book if taken with a grain of salt. There is some really really valuable ideas around intelligent forgiveness in it.

Well, two things come to mind.. When meditating you are training the mind to go beyond thoughts... So you are developing a new skill. And mindfulness is something you can bring into understanding these thoughts as you develop a more holistic set of practices. I really enjoy the headspace app which is what trained me to meditate for the first year and a half. I am back into meditating every morning and am so glad I made the investment into this practice years ago. I also do Qigong and am finding a balance between my practices as they synergies. Head Space

Nah man. I've watched pretty much all his content and have watched and listened to plenty of other teachers. Leo has his own styles, limitations and biases for sure. But, he is on the money. He even says reality is a mystery to itself.

Total Forgiveness

Yeah, he likely has a bit of spiritual Ego. But he also has blog posts and in his earlier God videos he says that what he is pointing to has been known for thousands of years. I think the problem is most modern spiritual teachers have not Groked this notion as deeply as Leo. I can't speak for anyone elses realizations but from what Leo is sharing...

I have also had this problem... I am studying conscious polyamory atm... Not that I necessarily want to be in a poly relationship I just want to begin to reprogram my mind that wants to own my partners. I want them to be free. I also want to accept that other men want to fuck them, and they may want to fuck other men and that is okay. I might want to fuck other women/men too but that doesn't mean we aren't a good partnership. Sex shouldn't be such a big deal. I don't want to own someone. I just would like honesty... Idk..

My favourite funny Leo Quote Atm... something like... "You don't know what God is unless you can see God in a Strip Club" ahaha

This is true. You can only Grok God through direct insight/ Awakening. 'The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao'

You know, I have heard Leo saying a few things that confused me like. 1. There is only one bubble 2. There are infinite bubbles 3. I don't have my own bubble 4. It's just you or it's just You (I can't tell) So, I sense even he is still integrating and coming to greater understanding. As well, still developing how best to communicate!

We are God speaking about ourself as we work toward some kind of consensus I think

Yes, that is fine. Yet you did make distinction between God and a human teaching. With that logic human teachings are God's teachings. But, I suspect you are speaking about your realizations through direct consciousness of God Realization? But will that teach me everything I need to know about spiritual sexual intimacy? I doubt it. So, I go for these other teachers. Who are me, part of myself God. Is God realization gonna teach me every stretch to remove all the accumulated excessive muscle tension from my body? No. I have to study things like Tao Yin, Yoga, and Qigong.

Let's see how I come to realize this as I progress. As of right now I suspect this is a sweeping over generalization. But, Let's see. Not that I doubt this is true of God (as I have experienced thus far this is clearly true) However, it seems for the rest of my life I will be a Human Avatar.

Or, you use all the practices at your disposal and stop making false lines between practices. You can do these substances which will skyrocket your growth and still have these other spiritual practices. I think they are all necessary to being conscious. It doesn't need to be state chasing. Which, by the sounds of it you are doing with your meditation anyway. Because if you are suffering... of course you are trying to change your state so its just foolish to condemn that. The peace, bliss and insights from 5meo have only bolstered and advanced my Qigong, journaling/contemplation and sitting practice. Both are still. young and as I progress I am very excited.

@Tim R I felt the same way. I mean, I think all spiritual teachings that are true converge to a peak. I've attended Tantric festivals with hundreds of spiritual teachers who teach in their own sub domain. There is not one teaching that will help you live a good spiritually mature life. Love you Leo, but be careful imo. You have your own biases, which is fine. Let's see how I feel as I awaken but there seems to be many aspects to spirituality that are important.

It depends if you mean me or you or which you/You. I have my own bubble of awareness.

Or do Friends are great But, don't expect a True friend other than your own heart imo... But yes, friends are a rich part of life as they come and go. Friends only exist to the extent you serve there selfish ego. If you displace that, they leave. ahaha

What of this psychedelics not being the only path? Isn't it true I can realize God consciousness but still need to read books to develop a greater understanding of reality. You need state and structure no?

Just learn to master the dream

I am afraid of being accused of things I didn't do, or canceled because I said something that offended people. Each time I see someone canceled in the media I have trigger and feel a tonne of fear. How should I go about getting over this fear? I don't feel like an offensive person and am pretty unity based in my thinking but still. Afraid of having my dreams ripped out of my hands.

Drugs are bad mmmkay

@GreenWoods I actually think Salvia really scared this person and they are in a survival response to psychedelics. Let's just leave it.