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I think psychedelics can heal you, show you beauty, maybe something you can call God. But, in the end they should only be less than 1% of your psychological and spiritual work. I think Leo giving them so much attention is important in some way to teach people about them. But, I think because I personally saw the channel as a school for self actualizing... It perhaps side tracked my focus as I came to think they were more powerful, or important than they are. Don't get me wrong. Take it easy, but take it. They are powerful tools. But, they don't change reality that much. They are maybe 1% of your actually spiritual and personal development work. The insights are not actually True. I've had many insights that were accurate, but just as many they were not. And, I still don't consider a 5meodmt trip God. It's really just an experience. I still don't really understand reality, or that I am constructing it, or what God is. 5meodmt is great for love, forgiveness, some sort of infinity like experience, ego death, presence, etc. But God? I mean it's God already. I've known I was God since like grade 4 but no one around me confirmed this... So I was confused. Also, be-careful taking psychedelics and while watching to much Leo. When he says things like others don't exist, he doesn't have his own consciousness, you are God constructing all of reality, etc. I've tried 5meo-MALT... There was no grand God realization as of yet. None of that changes anything even if it is true. You are having a limited, human experience. You may be God, but you are God being a limited finite human. So, in some ways it's really just mental masterbation and drug taking. The drug will show you amazing things! It made me realize the importance of Qigong. But, I don't think it's worth the hype or focus. I am not sold on the metaphysical claims of psychedelics not being an experience in the brain. Even if the brain is imagined by Mind, what makes taking one substance over another making it special? It's not. 5meo-dmt, or 5meo-malt are just the same Cosmic Mind as weed or coffee. They may change your life forever.... But, realize it's not gonna take you far if you want to go really far in life. It may even be a distraction. Take it easy, but take it. By all means, explore psyches, get the benefits, the healing, the love, the insights, the recontextualization. But realize its dead end after awhile. It's not more important than yoga It's not more important than meditation, breathwork, journaling, reading self help, Qigong etc Leo saying somehow that taking a drug is more important than these things, and that God realization is more powerful than these habits I just don't buy. I still don't really grok God. None of the insights I had while tripping I take back into regular life and trust that they were 'absolute Truth'. Which, i understand conceptually. Anyway. Do you, this is just my thoughts today.

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@OBEler Yes, learning to be assertive is worth it even if she makes mistakes. The more she practices standing up for herself, setting healthy boundaries she will realize its actually much easier and rewarding than she thinks. Again I really don't know her situation. But, even though my initial take on assertiveness was actually aggression. I am glad I did it as I am learning to stand up for myself skillfully. She can do it, whatever she needs to do if she tries.

Use wit, tact and play with expectations

@OBEler I am just saying... these are not techniques you just try. You need to do them regularly for a long time. It doesn't even need to be for long amounts of time. You have to work in life to get results. I think it's false there is a personality type for wellness practices. If you want it to be easy, then thats on you. How easy is your constant anxiety attacks? OF COURSE you aren't in the mood. If you are constantly anxious then you aren't in the mood for much. If you are having constant panic attacks, you are deciding that there is value in it and preferring it over doing a small amout of emotional labour to change your state. You have to want to actually put down the fear and panic. It's really not as useful as it seems. If you aren't willing to feel, and use your body properly these substances aren't going to end that for you. Anyway, I wish your friend luck. Good luck with your experiences and I hope she can find a way to enjoy these fun practices to improve her state.

I personally only drink herbal tea maybe some green teas I like the taste of coffee, I used to drink it but not any more. Gives me the shits.

That's because you have no gratitude or purpose.

Learn to breath properly, relax your muscles, purge stagnant chi and regulate your emotions. Panic attacks have many reasons, one being you simply lack a skillset and awareness of the mind body connection and the nature of your thoughts. Also stop smoking. Sleep properly, get off social media, eat properly. Improve your posture and for god sakes breath ahah Consider the following: 1. Developing a Yoga, Qigong, meditation or breath-work practice. Pick one, I recommend Qigong. 2. Working on your normal breathing, and your posture 3. Start a daily journaling routine 4. Eat well, take a break from social media, spend time in nature, sleep regularly, stop smoking. 5. Take time to really FEEL what you feel. Just feel it. We don't know how to feel in our culture. Your lungs if you are smoking all the time... They will give you anxiety and panic attacks because Oxygen regulates all the bodies processes. Also consider seeking a professional therapist or councillor you can speak to. Betterhelp is a decent enough online service and there are many others. This should be a daily practice. That with maybe some LSD or mushrooms once every few months. If she is already tripping reguraly her problem isn't likely lack of psychedelics. 5meo might be nice actually if she already trips often. However, really it sounds like her problem is a lack of skill.

Tough Love

The most loving people are usually the most demonized

Okay Woke Bloke, stop all your thoughts RIGHT NOW Can't, because they also generate themselves.

Interesting, I don't think most people who fight culture wars actually self reflect on the distinctions people make. Just because you don't want to fuck your boss doesn't mean you hate him. 99% of the people I meet I can totally love and I generally do regardless of your background. Doesn't mean I am sexually or romantically interested in you. In fact, the problem is in some ways you demanding me to have to feel feelings for you which I don't. However, there is so much nuance out there in the world its really just dangerous to make overarching statements about things. However, racism is a problem. I grew up in an environment where I was made fun of for dating black girls, or black men for that matter. However, I had to go through a process of overcoming that cultural programming and I think a lot of people in my province are changing everyday. Future generations, at least where I live because the elementary schools are so diverse are going to be really amazing I think. The world is always moving toward greater unity in the long run. So be patient with tribes as they grow and merge. It's a long painful process but I have hope. This whole topic is so sensitive. Most important thing to do is just work on yourself, and to try to understand others. I think that everyone wants to be loved, and depending on your experience and up bringing you love differently. Your judging of peoples sexual preferences might even be akin to what you fear in these other people. Who knows..

Wow, strangeloopy topic

@omar30 nope. Think long term. You can make leaps and bounds with things like psychedelics but, this is a multi year process.

@Guardian Be mindful of over playing the passion card. Even your deepest passion can feel like a drag sometimes. Which is why you do it despite the drag. Also, on the pathway to mastery often the initial phase of developing a skill is a total drag. Passion can develop with mastery, skill, etc Passion can be developed. There are lots of books explaining is with different opinions, anecdotes, lenses etc

What is the non-dual nature of emotions? Can someone explain how this realization works? I like the paradox there

It reads like you are using circular reasoning here, as if the emotion is the result of the emotion. Or, you are using emotions to understand your emotions. Which ,is sort of true in my experience. Emotions are something prior to all intellectualizing. Even if you are enlightened in my opinion you will still feel emotions. If anything you will be more emotional. Enlightenment will not replace the need for experience and emotional mastery. Do you mean more-so a dualistic mindset about the stimulus of the emotion? "Imagine the emotional system as a sort of AI machine that primes the body with hormones that correspond to whatever one believes the emotion means. " You also do that there. I think there is truth in this, but emotions are also prior to the meaning making mechanism imo usually its emotions that actually lead most peoples meaning making. So, you are all tied up in knots here. "The core of anger is being unable to escape from something which has been labeled as unsafe for survival." This only seems like single facet of the core of anger imo. Anger is really complicated and nuanced. It's far more complicated and contextual. But, yeah I would say this is true for the most part I think. But, anger for example can be a driving force for change. It doesn't have to be the sense of being unable to escape. It can be a trigger, and injustice, someone with different values than you. "The way out is to recognize the emotions are a complete non-duality, that they are simply energy moving in its various flavors, and maintain mindfulness during the experience so that the original mindset can be overwritten." I agree with this mostly. Emotions are energy and mindfulness isn't enough to fully overwritten emotions because they are distributed throughout the nervous system, tissues, transference, cognitive imprints etc. If people have stagnant Qi, smoke, don't breath properly, tense their muscles for years, have a weak vagus nerve, seek pleasure in their victim milking.. its tough. You would need physical practices as well as mindfulness, books, talk therapy, psychedelics and cognitive behavioural techniques and more. Anger is not bad, anger is not even anger. Anger is a term we use to describe a type of energy which the egoic self has labeled as bad because it fears the death of the form (the death of self). In this it creates resistance and solidity in the body. It is just a sensation. Well, if you can feel something we generally call anger I think it's a good label. But, I agree anger isn't bad. It can be expressed in ways that are destructive or constructive. A big part of anger is fear of death, but that is also so grossly over simplified I don't even know if most people can use that. "This requires a deep understanding of the human experience and an unshakable understanding of Truth. If you maintain mindful presence at all times and are okay with every core belief you have being wrong, all your core beliefs will fall away and you’ll be left with peace." I like this idea. Not trying to pick on you btw, just treating this as a way of learning for myself Emotions are fundamental to pretty much all your actions, thoughts, behaviours, rationality etc. If enlightenment was being so above and beyond all emotions in your day to day life I think it would be a dysfunction. Now, there are high states that I have experienced where fear and anger is impossible. But, not day to day life which you will not escape in this life.

@Leo Gura That is true, would you say it is partially passive? You have multiple streams.

You get life time access, but you cannot download them.

@omar30 Escape wage slavery, build a passive income business and only do what you want 99% of the time

Okay, so I have the option of pay 800 dollars for the V2 of the course, or 8000 for the V3 version of the course. I cannot afford the V3 version, and he is trying to convince me to take out a financial loan to pay for it. He says I could start getting high ticket clients within 30-60 days. I don't know a lot about risk, that it seems like he is trying to push me into dangerous financial practice. I've already paid 1000usd for the V2 before... I am not sure what to do. I want the course. I will likely go with the V2 as I can actually afford it. I wont have the 1 on 1 support which would be nice. But I can figure it out myself. I don't want to be taken advantage of and paying someone 10k when I don't have my first client is just crazy. I am building an online business no matter what. Fuck working as a wage slave and all these people can use some relaxation etc I have value to create. Going to practice active inaction for the next few weeks. Gonna contemplate. I am looking for a payroll position atm anyway.

I am about to be certified in Qigong and breathwork to be able to teach. I am considering working with an online consultant who specializes in these niches getting teachers high paying clients for online courses. He seems legit, and if things go well 8000 isn't that much to pay in the long run. What are your thoughts? This is the website he runs: https://kevinwathey.com/