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Who cares what you call it What does it do?

Sometimes something being illegal is a crime against humanity and

To you

Out of curiosity I haven't heard anyone mention the lethal doses of these substances. I am creating a fact sheet and protocol sheet just wanted to add the known lethal doses. I've read people doing insanely high doses and being fine. The only known deaths I know of are when mixed with other substances.

Infinity, or Leo's brand of Spirituality ain't the only fish in the sea... Broaden your idea of spirituality. Maybe things like 1. Good Qi flow 2. Mental Clarity 3. Being joyful and perfectly okay with what is 4. Health intimacy and sexual relationships etc Infinity is actually Love, so it's not painful. Limitation is painful

@Leo Gura Only if its like, your main focus.

"The king takes back the throne.. the useless seed is sown"

He teaches how to get laid and now he also teaches how to develop a healthy stage orange business mindset and to also be spiritual. We are all one. Nothing wrong with chasing girls imo.

Yeah, to to me he looks healthier now than he did 15 years ago

Meditation techniques are a part of a balanced spiritual practice.

@Emotionalmosquito Again, its about shitting the bed... but not periods, ritiuals, etc idk You CAN talk about those things but are you doing it skillfully ahaha

Real spirituality, once embodied realizes there is nothing to solve. Which solve everything. Yet, there are still problems to solve.

It's Love

To me the maturity is larger than that. For example: 1. Can the person take into account all the safety protocols/ Can they learn from previous mistakes and build a powerful safety protocol 2. Can the person avoid abusing things like 5meo after it shows them such deep levels of love 3. Can the person handle the nihilism and confusion that may follow a trip etc Maturity around psychedelics to me is maturity around life in general because they affect your whole awareness and contextualization of things to a certain extent. Safety, moderation, ability to handle insights, deal with confusion etc are importatnt.

Depends how you go about it. If you get into someone like Howard Vernon it's about gaining clarity of mind, groundedness, freedom from the pettiness of the masses and becoming cosmically rich But, if you go about it like a newbie and a fool you fall into greater and greater delusion, confusion, cults, psychotic delusions of granduer, misuing psychedelics, hurting your life and family, falling into new age delusion, homelessness etc etc If you go about it like a Toaist you start learning things like Qigong and start removing chronic stress from the body, developing a healthy Qi and nervous system, balancing yin and yang in all areas of life You learn to work with the Tao instead of resist it. You create a profound balance. A christian may use it for a sense of meaning, community, moral grounding There are many types of Yogis: The Tantric, The Bhakti Yoiga, Gnanni Yoga, Karmic Yogi, Kyra Yogi, etc... When each of them get together perhaps God appears. a non dualist collapses all duality A meditator trains the mind Someone who reads spiritual books develops new insights, forgiveness, meaning, and a map a psychonaut explores the realms of his consciousness, maybe realizes God, removes all sexual fears and taboos, discovers absolute nihilism, Love, peace... Liberation, infinity, unity, Good with a capital G. To me the Highest level mystic frees himself to create life however he or she wishes. Spirituality allows as well a beautiful aesthetic for Karmic work in our lives. As we go about finding our life purpose we can cry tears of joy daily in the beauty of reality and what it means to do the work we do. For example, the implications of me teaching Qigong, self massage and self love make me cry because of what I went through to discover it, and the scientific implications of more people doing it. Maybe spirituality helps you to develop the most beautiful vision for your life and you go about attaining it. Maybe, right now is perfection. To me, sanity and spirituality for the most advanced should go together. You should be mature, happy, and able to function in the mundane and petty aspects of the world. You are not actually just an Ego wanted to be a Buddha, you are a Buddha. Normal guy Buddha. Average Joe Buddha. Or, you are a seeker who is on an epic journey towards truth, love, and reconciling the confusion of life... For me the highest quality spirituality consist of the following 10 Things 1. High Level Clarity of Mind, sobriety, maturity, groundedness and sanity being free from addiction and craving 2. High level Qi flow and balance 3. 0% Pain in the body, perfect posture, relaxed muscles, shoulder, joints, face, jaw etc... High level body posture and use of the bodies mechanics. 4. Liberation from negative and neurotic thinking into a clear mind, total control of the mind, sanity, Love, Joy etc 5. The ability to be totally here now, presence, and mastery over the mind 6. Total self forgiveness for past mistakes of yourself and others. Total Self acceptance. At the same time, a spiritually mature person has a healthy shame and reflects often on their choices, actions and habits. 7. Being non dogmatic, being able to understand relativism, different perspectives and a commitment to Not Knowing and Life long learning. 8. If you are interacting in the world you have nothing to prove, only to give. A spiritual Karmic yogi or creator is a person of integrity, honesty and holds them self to a high standard and is willing to put the work in in a grounded way to become that person. 9. Mastery over all domains in life so you build beautiful experience out of all the blocks a human has to build with (Example: Being enlightened and building a powerful business that inspires you everyday... Developing powerful models of reality and systems for living for optimum health, clarity, longevity, balance and joy) 10. The Good Life. Living as God like as you can. Being a Powerful Creator and being totally in love with every aspect of reality. A vial of hope and a vial of pain In the light they both looked the same Poured them out on into the world On every boy and every girl It's in the neon Bible, the neon Bible Not much chance for survival If the neon Bible is right Take the poison of your age Don't lick your fingers when you turn the page What I know is what you know is right In the city it's the only light It's the neon Bible, the neon Bible Not much chance for survival If the Neon Bible is right Oh God! well look at you now! Oh, you lost it but you don't know how In the light of a golden calf Oh God, I had to laugh Take the poison of your age Don't lick your fingers when you turn the page It was wrong but you said it was right In the future I will read at night In the neon Bible, the neon Bible Not much chance for survival If the Neon Bible is true

To be develop into an unconditionally loving person you need the right conditions

Learn the art of active inaction Relativity is weird

Go where no cars go "between the click of the light and the start of the dream" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P77GfpzqDvQ

God actually Love hitler, it wasn't a mistake. God is completely unbiased. I think the mistake is to assume that because we as finite humans dislike hitler that God somehow made a mistake. It didn't. Not defending him. I think he is a monster, but God is everything including Hitler and every evil person ever. Even hitler, exists super symmetrically within all infinity and is equal and unprefered over everything else. Why would an uncreated creator who could create and entire universe judge any aspect of any part of itself. It has no where to go. And death is something it dreams up. Just as it does time, space, and even feelings. It's all God's Will.

No, it was all knowing forever because God is consciousness. Who taught God? How could an ignorant God create this universe?

Yeah, but how do you know that it did not know that it was there? I mean, it created a perfectly stable universe in a big bang right? So, it must have known itself rather infinitely. But, maybe at that level of infinite consciousness knowing itself and not knowing itself is the same thing. Because not knowing and knowing are relative things it dreamed up.... but an uncreated creator is not relative. Its nothing. So you can't really compare nothing to something because something happening like, before the universe would have to happen within time. But time is something it created, time is completely relative to our universe. and not an uncreated creator. How long could nothing last? Never it couldn't last even for a second. So, how could the universe have began? Maybe this is how we start getting into the Love Territory.

So, it never began. To me you are saying the same thing I am saying. Because, normally when we say something began... For example if I am sitting here, typing on a computer. Just a moment before I was not typing. So when I started typing it was relative to something. But, if nothing exists it can really be relative to anything . But, existence existed for that to be possible. Because infinity is infinite relativity. But, if nothing exists, and then it exists. It couldn't have really began in the traditional sense either. But, nothing exists in order for it to create something. The uncreated creator that doesn't exist... paradoxically exists. If the creator did not create itself, and is uncreated how did creation create an uncreated creator who did not create itself but created creation?

Actually, my opinion is even the finite universe we live in contains infinite infinities. It's also likely our universe just is and has always been. Not everything has to have a beginning, imo that is a very human idea just because we see it happening to us in our biocentric existence doesn't mean it's true in all cases. But, your point was saying, creation happened with the big bang therefore forever doesn't exist. Yet, your argument suggests that forever does exist and it exists as the very least an uncreated creator, who created itself paradoxically and therefore that must have always existed forever. Also, I am humble here and just sharing my thoughts on infinity and my direct experiences. Still growing each day.

How can something infinite have a beginning? If it had a beginning it would be finite Also, don't dogmatically speak down to people on the forum. Just common curtesy. You THINK the universe began. Right now. You are imagining it based on appeals to authority. Also, why does something infinite just happen to have the limitations which you say it does or imagine it would? "There could not have been infinite universes before this. Because one would never get to this universe. If you go back infinitely then you have to keep going back forever. Thus getting to this universe would be impossible." You are imagining infinity working in a linear fashion. But Infinity has no such limitations. Nothing doesn't have any rules because even the physical laws it dreams up in this universe as aspects of its infinite mind.

Yeah but you are just making appeals to authority based on belief. A big bang is still only relative even it its 'true' is just relatively true. Before there was this universe, how do you know there wasn't other universes? You don't. Also, how can this nothing create something? Because its not nothing it's everything. A seed is a tree, though they look different depending on where they are on the journey. What is is capable of stopping nothing from breaking every single belief, opinion, viewpoint, story, emotional, bias that you have? Nothing. Nothing is the highest power and it's been around forever. Nothing is so powerful it can dream up everything because everything is absolutely relative to nothing. Nothing is not relative to anything. Relativity only exists once nothing have become something in contrast to something else. Which is relative. Everything is nothing. But, Nothing has no beginning or end. Because it would have to be something to be so. Therefore, is forever. Already. Always already God, infinite singularity.