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@Leo Gura hmm, I noticed this is a common flaw in debating.

With a capital S

@Leo Gura Imagine if Peterson was like “You mean the same Christianity with systemic pedophilia issues going back decades and centuries?”

@Leo Gura True

@Leo Gura Not only did he diddle kids but he did it around dead people. Ol' Foucalt for ya

@Sho fio They are generally safe from what I know, but you take your own risk. Make sure its a solid company with positive reviews. Each substance is of course different. You should do research on each analogue of course before trying them. 1p-lsd I think basically gets metabolized into lsd.

Being too intelligent

@Leo Gura I don't know much about him... based on a chatgpt inquiry he appears to be a gay may who was part of the gay liberation movement. But, is that what you mean?

Sort of lazy of Peterson to say something as true, which hasn't really been verified. Is that a form of dishonesty? Though, no major news sources or accusations from victims exist... Foucalt did sign a 1977 petition saying people 13 and above can consent to sexual activities. But, there is no concrete evidence.

Chatgpt: You said: are the accusations agaist michael foucalt true? ChatGPT said: ChatGPT The accusations against Michel Foucault, a prominent French philosopher and social theorist, surfaced in March 2021 when Guy Sorman, a French writer and former friend of Foucault, claimed in an interview that Foucault had sexually abused young boys in Tunisia during the late 1960s. Sorman alleged that Foucault would pay boys to have sex and that these acts occurred in a cemetery in the town of Sidi Bou Said, where Foucault lived and worked during his time as a professor at the University of Tunis. These accusations are serious and have sparked discussions about Foucault's legacy and the ethical considerations of his personal behavior. However, it's important to note that these claims are based on Sorman's account, and there has been no corroborating evidence or legal action taken to substantiate these accusations. Sorman's statements were made decades after the alleged events, and there has been no independent investigation or evidence presented to verify the claims. As of now, the truth of these accusations remains unclear, and they should be considered allegations rather than confirmed facts. The lack of evidence makes it challenging to draw definitive conclusions about the veracity of these claims

@Leo Gura I think your post Modernism video is one of your best. No so much rambling and convincing as usual which I found was a weakness of the myth of science videos. Thanks again. Excited for the rest of the series.

Brian Johnson’s blueprint plus Qigong

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Plants are basically rocks everyone knows that. I think plants are alive. They grow, metabolize such as in the process of photosynthesis, have cell organization, reproduce, they sensory perception, they maintain homeostasis, communicate with each other, evolve over time. I don't think they meet a criteria of not being alive but its an interesting argument. Plants, I think even show signs of stress etc. I don't have 100% focus right now. Will look at this later as it's an interesting idea, and I'd have to look into it. Is human sensory perception really active? It could also be argued to be passive. My ears hear, nose smells, eyes see but they just do that automatically. Definitely an interesting discussion that showcases the issues around what is good or bad science, and how we looking at the same external phenomena can make different conclusions. Just because a non-living system replicates, or can do similar things to living organisms like plants doesn't make plants non-living. People who are into technology love to do this sort of backwards rationality where they take similar behaviour of non-biological systems, technology and say "Hey, if we can make a system do this than life is also a dumb machine" which is false. These machines created by man are not life. I decided to show your post to chatgpt: This argument presents an interesting perspective on what it means to be alive, suggesting that our traditional understanding of life may need to evolve. However, several points in this argument can be critically analyzed. Let’s break down the main arguments and where they may be right or wrong: 1. Reproduction and Growth Are Insufficient Markers Argument: The argument suggests that reproduction and growth are insufficient markers of life because self-replicating machines and computer programs can exhibit these traits but are not considered alive. Analysis: Correct Aspect: It is true that self-replicating machines and certain algorithms can mimic some behaviors associated with life, such as growth and replication. Flawed Aspect: The comparison between biological organisms and computer programs or machines is problematic. Biological growth and reproduction involve complex biochemical processes and cellular functions that are fundamentally different from how machines or programs replicate or grow. For example, biological reproduction involves DNA and RNA, complex biochemistry, and cellular structures, which are not present in non-living self-replicating systems. Hence, while machines can mimic these traits, they do not possess the underlying biological mechanisms that define living organisms. 2. Plants Lack Sense Perception Argument: The claim is that plants lack true sense perception, which is a crucial feature of life. They argue that plants' responses to stimuli are passive and mechanical. Analysis: Correct Aspect: Plants do not have nervous systems or sensory organs like animals, which can lead to the perception that they lack active perception. Flawed Aspect: The argument underestimates the complexity of plant responses to stimuli. Plants can perceive their environment in sophisticated ways, such as phototropism (growing towards light), gravitropism (responding to gravity), and chemotropism (response to chemicals). They can also communicate with each other through chemical signals and even exhibit behaviors akin to learning and memory (e.g., Venus flytrap mechanism). These responses are not purely mechanical; they involve signaling pathways and hormonal regulation, which are hallmarks of biological perception. Thus, while different from animal senses, plant perception is still a valid form of interaction with their environment. 3. Plants Do Not Demonstrate True Autonomy Argument: The argument posits that plants follow preprogrammed responses to stimuli and lack the autonomy that animals exhibit. Analysis: Correct Aspect: Plants operate within a set of biological constraints, and their behaviors are often viewed as automatic responses to stimuli. Flawed Aspect: Autonomy can be a relative term. Plants can make complex decisions based on multiple environmental inputs, such as optimizing water use during drought conditions, engaging in complex interactions with other plants, fungi, and animals (e.g., symbiotic relationships), and even modifying their growth patterns based on competition. These actions demonstrate a form of biological decision-making, although different from the active behavior seen in animals. Thus, plants exhibit a form of autonomy appropriate to their ecological niche. 4. Plants Are Complex Chemical Systems Argument: The argument likens plants to complex chemical systems, suggesting that their biochemical processes do not necessarily indicate life. Analysis: Correct Aspect: It is accurate that plants involve complex biochemical processes, similar to some non-living systems, which can lead to intricate behaviors. Flawed Aspect: Living organisms are defined by their ability to carry out life-sustaining biochemical processes such as metabolism, growth, response to stimuli, and reproduction. Plants are not merely passive systems; they actively regulate their internal environment, respond to external changes, and can even heal wounds and defend against pathogens. These are characteristics of living organisms, distinct from non-living chemical systems. The complexity and organization of these processes in plants point to life, not just chemistry. 5. Redefining Life for a New Era Argument: The argument calls for a redefinition of life to include sense perception, autonomy, and dynamic interaction with the environment. Analysis: Correct Aspect: It is valuable to continually refine and update scientific definitions as our understanding evolves. Including aspects of perception, autonomy, and interaction could broaden our understanding of life. Flawed Aspect: Current definitions of life already include interaction with the environment and responses to stimuli, which plants demonstrate. The argument seems to assume that only organisms with nervous systems (like animals) can be truly considered alive, which is a narrow view. Life is a spectrum of complexity, and plants represent a different, yet equally valid, form of life. Redefining life should not exclude forms of life that do not resemble animals. Conclusion While the argument makes some thought-provoking points, it is largely based on misunderstandings or oversimplifications of biological concepts. Plants meet the criteria for life established by biology: they grow, reproduce, respond to their environment, and maintain internal homeostasis. The argument for not considering plants as living beings because they do not possess animal-like perception or autonomy ignores the diversity of life forms and the different ways in which life can manifest. Thus, while it is important to explore and expand our definitions, current biological definitions rightly classify plants as living organisms.

@Sho fio Can you clarify what you mean? Generally, they are stable and are analogues of controlled substances. Or, they are grey area psychedelics. Each chemical has it's own safety considerations.

I am working on my saving money, budgeting and long term planning skills. Feels good. Order, planning and organization are part of my values and it requires constant diligence and awareness. I fail a lot, I tend to overspend on food. But, I am recording my expenses each month which gives me data to adjust my habits. Awareness, and persistence is key.

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The Toad was the OG

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