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@mandyjw 1. To me that makes sense… actualited learning platform that puts out most of its work for free 2. yet here we are 3. Yeah, dating/ men learning to meet women is Low conscious activity. It’s a controversial thing, yet important more men to learn in my opinion. I felt like his video series was helpful for me. Wont be my only resource though. Mainly, it will be getting direct experience meeting people and having a good time with them… which was my main take away. When a guy is going out to meet women he is doing a practice or learning a skill. 4. ahah, yeah paradox. Same same but different. Hope you are well

@Danioover9000 pic? No

Ahah, I like the relaxed approach. I’ll take a look at those books and folks ?

Check out the book “Not Nice” by Dr Aziz G

Oh, Adeptus runs a channel on YouTube I thought he used the name Rob. I can make edits if we want.

In terms of intellectuals, and plenty of ancient texts this is known. it’s easy to say others are wrong. No, what Deepak is saying and reality being an illusion are totally related topics. The problem is also, when we react to a sound bite or a small thin piece of information like a few sentences from a documentary we aren’t really reacting to anything of substance. Most short sentences or paragraphs are fragile for arguing. Adeptus, what is the building block of reality? (love your channel btw)

Yea, him and Deepak share many views you would find stupid and outrageous. So do I… So do a lot of people. Reality is an illusion of consciousness. There’s nothing actually here…

@mandyjw 1. First one it probably a good point. Still need to observe more and contemplate more on the teacher thing. I think those teachers have different goals. It’s not obvious to me yet how “awake” people are. 2. The usage of .org is used primarily for non-commercial platforms and education platforms and does not imply a group of people. Google that. 3. Enlightenment isn’t for most people. But, seems to me he is making it more accessible than it would be otherwise. Also, he has stated in videos that enlightenment is not a single mountain but a mountain range with many facets and different peaks. 4. teaching pickup in a healthy way (which I think he does…) is important for men who would other wise remain creepy sexually frustrated men. I think learning how to mate is a skill set men don’t just magically have and are born with. We have to learn somehow… relationships and dating is a set of skill sets and there are male and female teachers who teach every aspect of dating and sexuality. Learning pickup is healthy. You may not agree. 5. Authority. You are the only authority. Leo has taught me to take back my own authority. .

It’s not. Read more about the teachings imo

@Inliytened1 Yeah, I like adeptus and enjoy his videos. But, we don’t see eye to eye on things. I look at people like facts of nature. It’s not for me to change them. I personally think his reaction is he is afraid of losing his own mind from tripping so he holds extra right to consensus reality.

And the problem with that is 100s or 1000s of hours people don’t have or want to spend

What you are saying is right in a certain perspective. But, I think that you can ground it in direct experience. There’s a lot of information out there and a lot of spiritual practices are actually rather grounded. Taoism for one.. @Inliytened1 Yes, that is hypocritical. (Side note I is understand hypocrisy is part of survival and relativism.) I like the Rob is a critic.

Nah, he is rightfully skeptics. We all should be. Leo is in the trenches of his work and will be wrong sometimes right sometimes.

Well, that’s how you interpret it. I personally feel empowered by what he’s taught me. I mean… humans do require education. Not knowing, or recognizing how little you know is a sign of wisdom also. he didn’t force anyone to watch his videos ahah… I personally have fun with the work though it’s very challenging and confusing at times. It’s been a wild ride! Yeah, and the meditation, psychedelics , yoga practices etc are practices that go beyond “knowledge” or… this sort of intellectual knowledge commonly used in westerns knowing. Very grateful for these teachings as they lead me to Qigong which has helped me generate an inner sweetness and helped me purge a lot of my anger and chronic pain. See, I learn from Leo but plenty of other sources. I’ll outgrow his work, but it’s a booster or a really good map IMO. Of course limited. …He does know a lot of things you don’t know Mandy. Be humble. we all know things that others don’t. I also just think it’s false that nothings broken for a lot of people. I mean just look around you.

Lol true Besides Leo’s video it would be worthwhile reading books by cult experts

How are you feeling today? Remember to use the proper resources such as therapist, and call centres if you are feeling depressed or suicidal. Leo nor the forum is the place you should be if you are experiencing suicidal thoughts and you should be seeking professional help, taking a break and grounding yourself. However you are feeling is totally fine. Feel it and be there. Things WILL change and get better. Keep working through your challenges and life becomes very beautiful. Feel free to share advice for people who may be struggling and your own story here if you are struggling.

Sounds like the old "this will last forever trap" We are bad at knowing what the future holds... (It's gonna be okay )

? There’s only 2 reported deaths from 5meo… important not to lie about things when there is hard data out there. Leo taught me to honour my life lol

I think you can voice your concerns but there’s a tact that is needed

I have tinnitus. I feel you. Develop that sensitivity thing is unfortunate. I don’t have hyperacusis thankfully… I went through a major depression and it made me pretty much give up on my music dream. I can still hear and play fine but… need to build my survival off something not hearing related because I realized how fragile my ears are. Music is my main passion for life. I still listen to it, I have no hearing loss. I will likely continue with music once I have more money in future. I am hopeful to find a cure in my life time. I no longer am bothered by it like I used to be. I do like silence and I will likely never experience is again. Luckily my tinnitus is a rather nice sound. I think stress plays a major role in tinnitus. I’m not fully convinced my tinnitus is due to sound I actually think it’s largely stress induced. I have to decide as I go forward whether music is something I will pursue. I mean, I already have tinnitus. As long as I use great care in keeping my ears healthy and do annual or semi annual hearing check ups I can’t see it being a problem. Really, is just means music has to be something I do once I break out of wage slavery. I’m still very passionate. I know I’m a good song writer and can be world class. I have some great songs.

@Heaven I do Holden Qigong. Mostly work around 5 Elements, Microcosmic Orbit and 3 Treasures. As well as meditations like inner smile and Three treasures cultivation.

“Now the war is won…. How come nothing tastes good?” -Arcadefire I have a vengeful shadow self which is separate from my normal state of consciousness that is VERY toxic. It’s vengeful, manipulative…. Very hard to work with when I get triggered. But, it’s part of the shadow work. Learning to see these negative aspects of ourselves with love and compassion is very important. A lot of us carry a deep anger, an ego, a fighter in us. We need to learn to love it but also see it’s an illusion. There is rarely a need to get even or anything to fight. A strong awakened person does not get bothered but the sleepiness of others. Pema Chodron has a good book… think it’s called “Peace in Times of War” or something. Very good, short and sweet (like 70 pages)

I’ve noticed this. I had a therapist and when I look at it she basically just listened the whole time, (which was really helpful honestly) and gave a few pointers and cognitive behaviour worksheets. But, when I was ambivalent about my emotions (feeling mixed emotions about failing an exam) she was like “you need medication” because I was feeling Mixed emotions. Now, I’m not anti medication but the challenges I was facing at that time were highly contextual. She was just being lazy. It’s like she sent me all this stuff on cognitive behaviour but she herself knew none of it and just lazyily thinks a medication will help me. Bla, The human mind is so complex. I forgive people. I will still use talk therapy as I find it helpful but… as a therapist you need to be well educated and not be lazily prescribing medication. There’s nothing unhealthy about ambivalent reactions. Or, in my case It didn’t mean I was in need of medication. Especially when I am doing cognitive behavioural work… there’s going to be mixed emotions…. Because the old cognitive distortions of negative way of thinking it meeting the conscious attempt at reprogramming the mind. Anyway, it was unfortunate. But overall it helped me a lot. Luckily, now with my Qigong, journaling, meditation routine and new job and beginning my career as a Qigong teacher I feel grounded and am doing really well. Still things to straighten out but things are good. ? Thank God for the life purpose course.

How can anyone decide that for you? for most people, sex and relationships probably come first

I have experienced "Wu Chi" I have experienced the absolute Truth/ aspects of it. But, I am still novice in my ability to understand things.I have experienced the "void" or the seed of all being... Or, that I am God.