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@Leo Gura Maybe If like 50-70% of crops didn’t go to feeding live stock veggies could be cheaper…. Historically meat was for the affluent. The amount of meat we it today is a luxury. I’ve read that some poorer countries do eat less meat and more beans and legumes for protein and calories because they can’t afford meat ecologically or financially. The above statements are also culturally relative. Obviously some cultures like the Inuit up north are a of animal fat and protein as a staple because that’s all they had. Same for people living in some harsh African environments who have not developed agricultural systems. Pt 2 was really good I think. I felt like I learned a lot and you make some things I’d been thinking about, but wasn’t sure about because it went against my left narratives I tell myself. I would often feel a bit confused because I considered myself left and progressive but when I would see the limits of left politics and share that with people on the left I would get attacked quite often. It was for this reason I also spend a lot of time by myself because I don’t feel like I fit in on either sides of this spectrum and I have a lot of work to do.

Hmm, interesting how people have different filters and data basis for intelligent people and wisdom. I’d personally consider Kanye to have a high capacity for intelligence but that he is ungrounded, unwell and foolish

@Gidiot Hehe stop going to work tomorrow onward and see what happens

How do you know you understood his points quite well? Did you ever ask for clarification at any point in this discussion or have you just been telling him how wrong/ right his is after a first watch? I don’t know everything and I don’t know if Leo is right or wrong or if my interpretation of his is right or wrong. I’m going to approach these last two videos with humility and patience because I am generally left leaning. I sense and intuit a lot of powerful points were made in this video that needs to be integrated with Leo’s other work, and other people’s works. And, maybe you do gaslight throughout your original post if you were to read what you said and rematch it that may be more obvious. Some simple example would be around the spiral and development models. Leo states often in other videos I’d not this one that these models are finite etc… unlike how you portray your interpretation of his absolutist views on them. Not sure if that’s really gaslighting or what. Another example would be saying his ideas aren’t tier 2 and that he’s not even past stage green. Which seems to be, and I maybe wrong… but it seems to me to misunderstand the context of the videos. He’s criticizing the left and discussing the strengths and values, perspectives of stages blue and orange. A normal tier 1 person would not likely be able to reflect on Critisim of his own political leaning. Personally I’m going to need to sit with the videos and contemplate and self reflect over time. I thought there was a lot of interesting ideas throughout part 1 and 2. It seemed almost grounding.

Should probably be care to only speak for yourself. I feel like I’d like to respond to your points and ask questions, etc If you re-read your own post do you really feel like you wrote that from a place of integrity?

Just started pt 2

So, I turn 27 in 2 weeks and the truth is: I am balding. I’ve struggled with this for awhile However, I recently realized hair systems and wigs are a thing and wondering if anyone has experience with them.

anyone enjoy taking 4acodmt? thoughts and experiences?

Haven't smoked for 3 months, but I also want to smoke this weekend as it's a celebration for me. I think I will hold out. I am not sure. Technically I may have inhaled a bit 2 weeks ago. I am not striving to be completely perfect in my counting of months. I didn't light a joint, smoke and fall back into chronic use for 3 months. I expect a big a shakiness but I will keep my streak counting going for my own encouragement. I have no smoked a joint in 3 months.

Not sure if I can share links but here is a workshop from Leo Holden my Qigong teacher which you may find useful. Rest and Restore Workshop

It’s a mixture of different things. For many of us who are new to relaxing the body and letting go it is a bit murky and confusing. There are techniques that can be used to begin exploring and developing the understanding of relaxing and letting how. 1. You can scan through your body and say “relax my eye brows, cheeks, jaw, etc”. Then relax the, and let go of stress and tension. Relaxing the jaw and tongue for example are easy for most people. Use that same sensation for relaxing everything else. 2. You can use various visualization exercises such as melting, deflating, laying on a beach and washing away into sand, being filled with a golden light, etc 3. You can just, actually let go. 1. body scan 2. inner dialogue 3. Intention 4. visualization 5. breath 6. inner smile 7. really letting go Finding some good guided meditations can be really helpful.

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It’s hard to say. Pessimism often sounds smart. You should see what people were writing directly after the show 2008 financial crisis as well.

@Leo Gura you’ll have to hire this psychic to smell the whole forum

@Carl-Richard what are you main take always from what he is saying that supports you tittle?

1. How would you define ego? 2. Yes, that is a good point that I am everything in my experience. However, am I not still relating to the perceived “external world” and even my “internal world” through my egoic filter while in a normal sober state? 3. Yes, there is an illusion or filter that I am placing on everything around me. That’s an aspect of ego in my mind. It’s an illusion, but isn’t it an illusion that exists? And there are substances and practices that alter and lower this illusion correct? 4. Yes, I agree that these thoughts keep me from being insane and act as survival function. 5. ive never heard anyone including raw sensory data (smell, sounds, touch) etc as ego. Why would raw sensory experience be ego?

@vladorion But how do you come to understand what consciousness is? Also, how do you come do understand what gold is? Do you know what Gold is? What is Gold? Or atoms? are you familiar with the concept “structure vs content”? How do you know that different states aren’t structurally different, not just different in the content. How do you know there aren’t states that are structurally different that allow you to understand consciousness better than other structures? My understanding of gold may even change with different states. So hmm I think that makes it tricky.

I don’t think Gold and consciousness can be compared symmetrically. I think there is an asymmetry between them. Mostly because… when in one state (sober) for many years, after smoking some DMT my understanding of consciousness greatly changed. But, I’m also curious. If explore different states of consciousness don’t help you understand it than what does? Being it? Then why so many conscious beings not understand it?

how do you know this? @Hojo

And all the black music that inspired literally ALL popular forms of music right now..

“There’s safety in the end” - Bon Iver (Heavenly Father)

Read 5-10 books on everything finance over the next 1-3 years

@Bobby_2021 as long as you are human anyway