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@OBEler Maybe, but leaving someone drowning, gagging, name calling etc what has that to do with ego death? It’s foolishness. That isn’t going to cure a Herron addict. He also has actually killed people. “wow, I’m so glad you drowned and kicked nearly killing me” lol 5meo is powerful enough. You may need a more full healing plan. Show me one piece of evidence octavios methods kill the ego better than just a safe environment for week long 5meo meditation retreat that respects people.

@OBEler That’s what 5meo does!!! The other stuff it stupidity

1. Totally fine expect that to happen as a given for personal development 2. more self love 3. feel the feels 4. let it go bro

it’s very difficult to understand what is going on if you are for example, trying to understand it solely from news, articles and the day to day hype as people battle out their politics and culture wars. 1. when looking at immigration try to collect as many data points and data sets as possible to understand that. I live in an area of the world that is EXTREMELY multicultural and it is creating an incredible healthy community each year as the different cultures mix and learn from one another. Many schools and class rooms are mixed from countries all over the world. 2. the more humans spread out amongst themselves in the world the more people from different backgrounds will have relationships. Black, white, Asian etc… these aren’t so obvious if boundaries for more and more kids who grow up in very mixed schools. These ‘hard’ boundaries of the ‘races’ is an illusion and says a lot about your own development which makes it hard to understand what is going on. Why is immigration and mixing of races evil to you? Is that what you think? There are evil people behind the scenes trying to get white and black people to have babies? How is that evil? How would that make anyone weaker? I think in truth the opposite is true that when cultures mix they become healthier, more integrated loving and safe. For, what makes a world unsafe except when we see “other” and “us vs them”. How would different cultures mixing make them easier to control? I think you need to let go that someone is controlling us in some evil way by mixing the races…. lastly, Your point on family values…. Traditional family values you mean a man and a women having children? Well, many people don’t fall into the category. Some are gay, and there are many other nuances. Family values and healthy communities matter which is why there are newer more modern family values and they may not be the same for everyone. Black people growing up without a father… well, there you need to study deeply the injustice of the US jail system, racism, generational trauma, poverty, systemic racism etc. Clearly traditionally the US didn’t value family values enough to help black fathers have healthy families by locking them away with minimum penalties for personal drug possession. From what I see, you can’t see what is really going on because you are yourself selfish, and caught up with so many ideologies, ideas, beliefs, etc Maybe study spiral dynamics, the world value survey, how survival and collective ego work. Leo has videos on these.

Yes, his malpractice is now well know in the community. He was one of the first big names of medicine facilitators. He has killed people. People should look elsewhere if they want a good facilitator. Rak Razam and Martin Ball have a good convo recently on the Entheogenic Podcast speaking about Martins new book on stories from facilitators.

Sounds like limbo after the end of a phase of a lot of activity. Review Leo’s videos on phases.

Just add that point into the pros and cons mix. You will vape it very infrequently so it’s probably fine

It’s interested to read Leo’s book list and then see where he got video ideas from lol

There are different pros and cons. Pros: 1. No torch or breakable dab rig 2. convenient and small/ discreet 3. You can measure dosage by full drag of the vape till the battery flashes. Make sure you limit it to about 2-3 full draws on the cart to avoid wasting 5meo or taking too much at once 4. the cart is pretty sturdy so if you vape in bed and disappear before you can place it on the table your fine. Way safer than lighting something. Cons 1. hard to get exact dose 2. easy to abuse 3. Very expensive compared to it if freebase or hcl as they are value added products Don’t underestimate the strength of the pens and make sure you use self restraint during your sessions. Limit the draws you will take in a session. Alway follow proper safety protocols. Recommend having some kind of ritual that puts time and preparation between the idea to trip and the trip itself (including cleaning house/ tripping environment , safety checks for trip location, intention affirmation for trip and safety (ie, that you will stay stationary and not move around or panic) meditation and Qigong done before to open and relax nervous system. Carts may make it easy for you to over indulge as they are super convenient. Be conscious and always improving your protocols and being sure to respect the power these carts offer. Used maturely I think they have a lot to offer the conscious and mature psychonaught. Always be improving your tripping protocol to be safer and more insightful and enjoyable.

Yup, tier one sees everyone from their tier one lens. Tier 2 is so juicy lol I often feel like a quiet tower just observing “resurrected living in a lighthouse if you leave them ships will go to wreck… resurrected living in a light house can’t you see you funny side? Them ships will go to wreck… the lions and the lambs ain’t sleepin yet” - Arcadefire

They are not the same. May want to have different days you do different practice. Or one in morning other in night.

Try Holden Qigong mans go slow with Krya IMO. Krya is very painful. I have been doing a basic holding of the breath for 2 minutes followed by Krya Bow. I find it’s hard but seems to increase my body state overall.

Yeah, why would you not want to have great sex? I think you will be horny as long as you are human. Maybe just get a partner to have regular sex and it’ll be boring idk

I stopped paying for internet at home. I’ve got data and if I abuse it - it’s gone

@AtheisticNonduality bands like Arcadefire, Flobots, Jose Gonzalez, Bob Dylan, etc

I sense he spoke about it before we had real results! Krya so far is uncomfortable but, perhaps there’s something there.

Getting blazed is sorta chill and fun. Tripping requires mastery, safety protocols, respect, self constraint, careful measuring, etc. Tripping can be very dangerous and requires you to be mature, grounded and to keep yourself held to a high standard. To me getting blazed is fine and fun. But, tripping on something like 5meo is a whole other beast. It requires respect ✊. Lastly, no. You can’t get very far on cannabis edibles. A mushroom trip is very different.

@MarkKol interesting perspective. I think I’m going to continue to study the books on finance, wealth building and accounting. There’s way more out there on personal finance than just rich dad poor dad/ wealthy barber etc… there’s books I’m reading that help you build systems, spreadsheets, debt to income ratios etc… A lot of them have exercises and stuff I never would have done on my own. Also, I fundamentally havent given money the thought and respect I deserve. My financial archetypes were designed through my neurotic, needy, self defeating old operating system I’m working daily to reprogram into an integral and wise mind. I have nothing else to do after work except study finance for this year pretty much. I will also play music and do Qigong, read other materials and contemplate etc But, I’m going to study money more and more deeply.

So, perhaps I realize today that since I am already 26, I am broke and will spend the next two years working two jobs unrelated to my passions or interests... That my life is pretty well over. Well, my life in terms of music or art. I can still enjoy it as a hobby... But, without being able to make it a career I just have to let it go I guess. So, what now? I've been contemplating it. Besides blaming and cursing God for the rest of my life for creating my dumb ass. I think I can only do the following. 1. Focus on my financial health by studying books, saving, paying off debt and getting a healthy savings 2. Focus on my mental health 3. Build healthier relationships by dating, reading books and taking courses 4. Practice deeper and deeper states of surrender and acceptance 5. Focus on tripping on weekends for deeper spiritual insights. 6. Focus on over all health by eating well, sleeping well, and relaxing in when I am not at work 7. Embracing a boring, mediocre life realizing my dreams were crushed by my own stupidity and Gods love for just letting people suffer 8. Focus on reading as much as I can in my free time 9. Maybe go back to school and become a CPA so I can make six figures 10. Maybe create an online Qigong followering (but I don't find Qigong as creative as music) Basically, the only thing to do is make peace with how shit reality is. Then, maybe it wont be so shit. Maybe from that shit I can create a happier life can I ever thought possible? I just, I wish I could in a band like Arcadefire and experience the rush of that sound and that success. But, I feel like I fucked it all up. So, I am going to focus on security, relationships and deeper relaxation and states of health and surrender. I guess, it's like a living suicide. Work on my unconditional happiness. The path of surrender (while still making constructive life decisions) is the only thing that makes sense. Life does not give a fuck about me. So, I just gotta do what I can with what I have.

@Questioner My finger is not a hand. Yet, it is. God can't be separate from what is the case. This is the case. Therefore it's God. You are God, but you are human. Limited to being human in this dream.

It was all an episode of Malcom in the Middle

I think what you are saying is true. My problem was that I put my practicing and performing ABOVE EVERYTHING ELSE for like 3 years. Which is why I am really quite good. Just broke. So, now I am pursuing accounting and Qigong and health and building my foundation, fixing my finances etc. I am taking responsibility, unlike what Heart of Space said. However, I am realizing how the fuck am I gonna be rich? How am I gonna be successful? Is life worth living if I can't do those things? What steps do I need to take? What is enjoying reality for it's own sake?

@StarStruck No one needs to be nice, I really don't care. What they say is not worse than what reality is actually like.

Perhaps that is true. However,I really don't know right now. I am simply focusing on my health, my accounting career, Qigong and my music.... Foundation is key, and just allowing and accepting reality as it is.