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@Phil777 Nothing you’ve said has made me uncomfortable. People generally aren’t at single stages. So, I’m not putting you at a stage. But, when you fight others on a thread over veganism I see the behaviour as stage green. But, I obviously don’t know you. Lastly, I’m essentially Vegan. So, I’m familiar with all your arguments and used to be very stage green vegan. Lastly lastly, I’m full of blind spots and I’m always learning. That’s all we’re doing here. I’m not putting you at a lower stage and me at a higher stage. Spiral dynamics isn’t a power heirchy but one of values. I’m not even saying I’m stage yellow and your stage green. I don’t easily put myself on the spiral. I just know that, from what I’ve studied your views aren’t purely tier 2 and your judgements of Leo aren’t coming from a strong yellow/ turquoise place. They, aren’t void of them either. I do doubt your understanding of tier 2, but that’s fine. It’s a really tricky thing to grapple with. So, I’m fine being wrong and I’m fine others people wrong.

@Phil777 No, it’s how your acting, etc I perceived you defending your view here very strongly and even fighting others for not seeing your view. I’m not putting you in a category. But, I can observe your behaviour and say that behaviour seems green to me. In this circumstance. I don’t know you. Which makes me think you don’t get tier 2 when you say “that’s not tier 2, so and so isn’t standing up for xyz” when tier 2 is more subtle.

I’ll do something more thourough in the next day or two. I’m about to teach some Qigong for the next few hours. Here is a really good time stamp of Leo talking about green tier 1 veganism vs stage yellow veganism. To me you are behaving like stage green. 1:09:55 time stamp

@Phil777 Yeah, I get that man.

@Phil777 I don’t think you’ve really studied tier 2. Mostly because your not acting in a way that a tier 2 person would so… it’s just interesting. No judging but. I just reviewed stage yellow and.. yeah

“One day with God”

I used to value time alone to write songs, journal and write poetry more than anything

@museumoftrees I was reading in the book which I just finished called “The Psychology of money” that compares to ancient times… people are very equal now. We have the same phones, clothes, computers, access to books, etc

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I’ve been reading other people’s responses. From what I read others are open to it. It seems pretty one sided you arguing with everyone else. So I said “we”. People are open to genetics playing a role in intelligence. But, not between genetics of entire races because their no science to support that claim. ”Our understanding of genetics and evolution” are you sure about that? The only source you share contradicted this. How can it be blatantly obvious given science and genetics when our current understanding says otherwise?

Can’t X if Y is imaginary unless you imagine it

I was wondering wut was going annnnn

I used to live there, enjoy!

@Heart of Space We are open to, and realize that genetics play a factor in intelligence. I think that’s been said many times throughout the thread. However, we are saying that because there are many factors at play for a demographic’s IQ we can’t single out genetics. You can assume it’s because we don’t want to come off as racist. But, that isn’t the case. I have openly pondered and researched this years ago. I came to the ideas that there’s simply many factors and that environment, economic, social factors play the biggest role for entire populations development with IQ, values, spiral development etc.. Who are you listening to out there promoting these ideas for you?

Yeah, I think that too I don’t really know but, reincarnation even if it’s not sequential in terms of this dream is likely as I am here now

I don’t know Ive had some awakenings but… Solipsism, God Realization, Leo saying he doesn’t have his own consciousness, then saying there’s infinite Gods… wuts going on here Ive had all these experiences but I still don’t really know. I’m maturing and growing a lot the last year.

This dude literally just shared an article and was like “if only you did a few seconds of digging” then didn’t read the whole article which then actually made an argument directly against his main point here in the thread. Then, he doubles down on his point. “You guys just don’t get it. It’s science. Some scientists agree. But only in private”. Which some how he knows what people think in private but not publicly. Yeah? So what if some people agree with you. Plenty more don’t. There’s not gonna be any point of speaking to this guy. He is aggressively, stubbornly ignorant in his opinion and claims to be “scientific” ahah You can walk a donkey to his own reflection and say “this, this is you! Just fucking look” and the donkey will still say “nee haa”

@Tudo Does it make the idea of tomorrow not make sense? If it’s all a dream how can anything makes sense? In some ways couldn’t it make reincarnation make perfect sense? If God is all alone and infinitely powerful after is dies it just imagines a new life thus “reincarnating” as something else. I have to admit and will continue to admit I don’t know what happens after death. But, I suspect it’s pretty great.

For some reason and I don’t know why yet this spawn thing seems very silly

“Love for ever love is free let’s talk forever you and me”

Everyone should review the video on stage yellow as well. Then watch the left videos.

He has tried to run for president. He stated he wanted to a few years ago at an awards show.

Important video to review for those who resonated with this thread.