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@John Paul Because, when a diamond is first gathered from mining it is unrefined. So, we must polish and carve the Diamond so it can sit nestling upon thy jewelry. ? Manipulation is part of human survival. Humans are essentially wild animals otherwise.

@Tahuti it’s not her, I’ve seen her face Ahah sorry Tyler I know who you are ol’ girl

@Tahuti Her face will be different tomorrow it’s just a picture

@Tahuti She is a shape shifter

@Tahuti In an accounting/ administration role such that I have there are a variety of tasks some of which are good for podcasts. Though many are not. Security actually seems like a good idea for him

@John Paul I’d like to understand you better

@Jodistrict Yeah, I think the way people use liberal and conservative identification breaks down under intense scrutiny. In reality people are composed of various conservative/ liberal elements. Conseratisim can be a very powerful survival strategy. The alcoholism thing ties into mental health for an individual… but also how liberal a society is to allow the consumption of alcohol which is interesting.

@John Paul Is becoming a good parent something of interest to you?

@John Paul Sorry if I seemed jerk like here. I’m still working on my communication. Till later

@John Paul Interesting. Some parents aren’t that developed themselves and are port parents. There’s many factors at play in what we are discussing I hope you can see it.

@John Paul I mean, like I said these things are complicated and to really look at them from a critical thinking point of view I would have to take some of these questions and do a lot of self reflection on my biases and assumptions, then I’d have to collect some data and do some research etc. but, My surface intuitive response is that a child is not an expert in their own development. A child needs guidance because he knows very little about the world. Can you think back to something that you didn’t want to do as a kid, but are glad your parents made you do it? Or something your parents tried to make you do that you didn’t that you now regret?

@Dorje Chang I think with this sort of thing you should collect a bunch of different examples of harsh survival environments through the worlds history and really look at how people responded. For example, look at peoples financial habits who grew up in the Great Depression vs those who grew up in times of great prosperity. Then, also look at how complicated a nations segmentation is like the US. There’s many different demographics… Plus there are the relative notions of conservatism as Leo said below. I wonder about that, are poorer urban areas more liberal than wealthier rich areas? This may inspire some interesting paradoxes . However, how young are these urban areas? And, what conservative traits do these people have? Also, conservatism is in some ways what lead to the wealth so, is complicated and these two dualities are always in a dancing interplay to some degree.

@John Paul Others will reply perhaps. List out a few answers to your own questions. There got to be at least a few examples you can think of… like eating ice cream and cake for breakfast? The reason I say to read some books is simply due to the information density I am intuiting on a reasonable response to them. There’s already this finely written out you don’t need some asshole on a forum doing it.

I am also impressed by Leo’s ability to express this subject from what I perceive as an even handed tier two lens. I had a thought today… Leo might really be the smartest person i “know”. Not to blow smoke up your ass Leo. You’ve still got a lot of work to do.

@John Paul idk man, go buy a book on child studies

@John Paul Because if you don’t: 1. Educate 2. Indoctrinate 3. Teach 4. Correct your kids, they end up fucking up society. If a kid is “manipulated” in ideally healthy ways they end up useless morons who can’t read, or contribute to society. Obviously there’s a balancing act there for kids. How much do you manipulate? How much do you allow it to flourish in its own unique way?

Accounting and administrative skills are very powerful foundational skills that will serve me in all future endeavours. wtf are you talking about that being mental masturbation

Wtf? When did he mention jerking off at work?!

@John Paul Because kids are dumb

@John Paul Examples?

There’s something here… what word could be used for the exquisite balance between liberalism and conservatism? Wisdom.

@Jannes I used to work in learning centres with autistic kids, and other strange disorders and differences. Because a large part of the job is just making sure they don’t Kill themselves I was able to read and journal a lot. One guy just sat on his iPad playing the same game everyday while he screamed and screamed. I would read books and write poetry. While working as a janitor I was able to listen to lots of podcasts. While working in accounting now I can find repetitive tasks that allow me to listen to podcasts. I am learning so much everyday at my job.

@Leo Gura Yeah, as I’m growing through my 20’s I’ve actually learned a deep respect for my grandfathers conservative life style. The results he has achieved I deeply admire. My foolish, unwise l, overly liberal early 20’s has taught me a lot. Now, at the same time I had a lot of conservative qualities that allowed me to develop myself a lot over the pat years. I think more conservative behaviour, while combined with my liberal side will reap some interesting results.

How about, instead of swinging your pendulum along a linear duality, you learn to swing your pendulum along a set of sets of multiple dualities that tend to be paradoxical and asymmetrical depending on your limited vantage point. But, when you can see the full picture makes perfect sense.? Something like, a pendulum that accounts for highly complex systems.