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He has tried to run for president. He stated he wanted to a few years ago at an awards show.

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Fake AF

@JTL Their language is making me uncomfortable

@Max_V I don’t know her. It can totally be a turn off. Maybe you can bring it up, maybe you can talk about it. But, maybe she’s finds it a turn off. This is why we have professionals.

I’m not saying you are being hateful. I think you really are thinking about this reasonably/ rationally from your own perspective. I don’t know you. Maybe you are a racist. It’s at least possible, very likely you are. You bring up good points about black peoples physical attributes. There may be differences among different ethnic groups in their mental abilities overall. Lets say that’s the case (this is also why I bring up different forms of intelligence beyond IQ). Black people clearly demonstrate in pop culture a high level of creative, artistic, and physical intelligence and ability. When it comes to academics and thinking it’ likely too early in societies development to measure it in history to decide whether it’s genes or not. I don’t know the data on this though. This is due to lack of generational wealth, economic challenges, red lining, school zoning, etc I would need two large, equally well off populations of blacks and whites and then compare their IQ over time. IQ doesn’t even measure ones likeliness of being successful in life or business. Though I have read studies about DNA tests done that have struggled to tell the difference between black and white people. You may be over attributing genetics to how a person develops. There’s more that goes into a persons physical development than genetics, even how we grow etc… Why would blacks be less intelligent than whites, even if there is a difference in their mental abilities? Part of my struggle with this is I’ve known Many smart, talented and highly successful blacks people. I’ve also known some that were clearly less intelligent. But, that goes for whites as well. I realize I can’t use my personal experience with this. I’d like to see everyone’s argument objectively as best I can.

I find it strange you mentioned there’s so many factors in how cultures, demographics, and individuals develops but you think genes are the main reasons for their decisions. How do you know it’s not historical and present survival needs? For example, if you study American economics and look at people’s personal finance psychology the survival and economic needs someone is raised it vastly changes behaviour, risk taking, savings, spending, etc… the next generation can act vastly different than a previous generation simply due to differences in economic opportunity. Have you heard of “Guns, Germs and steel”? By Jared Diamond? It’s a pretty strong theory as to why different populations around the world developed differently and it had nothing to do with genetics and everything to do with survival. I guess, I don’t get why your singling out genetics. I also don’t get why your over generalizing both whole ethnic groups, as well as how people judge others intelligence when you say “everyone assumes genetics when it comes to intelligence “ which if your honest might just be your own filter your assuming others have.

@Heart of Space You haven’t mentioned why EVERYONE assumes genetics when it comes to ones intelligence when clearly this forum shows otherwise. Ill ask you question to gain clarity. If you wanna respond you can, or if you wanna be snarky you can do that too. You could be glad I’m seeking to understand you instead of just debating.

Why do you think that everyone thinks this?

Please review tier 2 before contuing to judge Leo and others for not meeting your ideas of Tier 2. @Phil777

@Phil777 what do you mean? Human slavery and eating meat aren’t really symmetrical. As I understand it, a hallmark of being tier 2 is being able to understand others choices and actions without judgment or condemnation. Okay, I’d like to ask some questions. 1. What does being tier 2 to you mean?

@Phil777 it doesn’t matter because people won’t stop eating it

@Arcangelo Did someone ask someone their race? @peebz I thought he was referring to that. It just seems strange in that he was raised Christian.

You need to make your own purpose in life. There’s no life purpose other than the one you create for yourself

@Tyler Robinson based on a Steve Bannon quote about misinformation

@Leo Gura I agree i think that’s what the left fails to see also and it tends to run heavy in our dialogues … how it ‘SHOULD’ be vs the reality people shouldn’t be racist people shouldn’t eat meat people shouldn’t do sexual misconduct people should be environmentally friendly people shouldn’t shoot each other etc

@Tyler Robinson when you’ve been swimming in a zone filled with shit long enough you start shitting in it too

Cuz he is shitting in the pool

He did intentify as Jewish in the interview no?

@Tyler Robinson Kanye west recently went on a rant about Jewish people, and uses the words retarded. This offended a lot of people. Then, it’s very convenient for him to identify with these things.

@Tyler Robinson an Kanye west, the self identified retarded intelligent jew

I wonder if there is a common misconception that people at tier 2 are always right, always agree and always see one another as ‘reasonable’ because ‘reasonable’ has relative aspects to it

@Leo Gura The growing of cattle works for some places but not others. For example, in South America using large amounts of water for cattle leaves many people without access to water so they die. and, it’s not just about more or less land but all the different systems Of earth ecology and economy and how those intertwine that I’m pointing to. You could also say the consumption of meat destroys other cultures that didn’t consume that much in the past but now want to eat more like the west. Maybe I’m bleeding over on scope here I am of the opinion that if the world ate less meat it would be better for humans and the planet overall. But, that’s besides the point here. People have their culture and their beliefs around food.