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@Phil777 it doesn’t matter because people won’t stop eating it

@Arcangelo Did someone ask someone their race? @peebz I thought he was referring to that. It just seems strange in that he was raised Christian.

You need to make your own purpose in life. There’s no life purpose other than the one you create for yourself

@Tyler Robinson based on a Steve Bannon quote about misinformation

@Leo Gura I agree i think that’s what the left fails to see also and it tends to run heavy in our dialogues … how it ‘SHOULD’ be vs the reality people shouldn’t be racist people shouldn’t eat meat people shouldn’t do sexual misconduct people should be environmentally friendly people shouldn’t shoot each other etc

@Tyler Robinson when you’ve been swimming in a zone filled with shit long enough you start shitting in it too

Cuz he is shitting in the pool

He did intentify as Jewish in the interview no?

@Tyler Robinson Kanye west recently went on a rant about Jewish people, and uses the words retarded. This offended a lot of people. Then, it’s very convenient for him to identify with these things.

@Tyler Robinson an Kanye west, the self identified retarded intelligent jew

I wonder if there is a common misconception that people at tier 2 are always right, always agree and always see one another as ‘reasonable’ because ‘reasonable’ has relative aspects to it

@Leo Gura The growing of cattle works for some places but not others. For example, in South America using large amounts of water for cattle leaves many people without access to water so they die. and, it’s not just about more or less land but all the different systems Of earth ecology and economy and how those intertwine that I’m pointing to. You could also say the consumption of meat destroys other cultures that didn’t consume that much in the past but now want to eat more like the west. Maybe I’m bleeding over on scope here I am of the opinion that if the world ate less meat it would be better for humans and the planet overall. But, that’s besides the point here. People have their culture and their beliefs around food.

At least 10% of all you’ve earned This is sort of a complex topic. The more the better. But, also it depends. I need to research this in more depth.

Here is a short Vox article about the amount of land and canaries that go into animal agriculture… Vox Article

@Leo Gura I find the topic of food, culture, nutrition, economics, ecology and history and how these intertwine in the understanding of what to eat and why to be very murky and confusing. I don’t know the truth on veganism.but, it definitely is destroying a culture. Things also change in reality all the time. I went through a phase of wanting to push veganism. however now I am more focused on being ant based. And letting others do as they want

@Leo Gura Maybe If like 50-70% of crops didn’t go to feeding live stock veggies could be cheaper…. Historically meat was for the affluent. The amount of meat we it today is a luxury. I’ve read that some poorer countries do eat less meat and more beans and legumes for protein and calories because they can’t afford meat ecologically or financially. The above statements are also culturally relative. Obviously some cultures like the Inuit up north are a of animal fat and protein as a staple because that’s all they had. Same for people living in some harsh African environments who have not developed agricultural systems. Pt 2 was really good I think. I felt like I learned a lot and you make some things I’d been thinking about, but wasn’t sure about because it went against my left narratives I tell myself. I would often feel a bit confused because I considered myself left and progressive but when I would see the limits of left politics and share that with people on the left I would get attacked quite often. It was for this reason I also spend a lot of time by myself because I don’t feel like I fit in on either sides of this spectrum and I have a lot of work to do.

Hmm, interesting how people have different filters and data basis for intelligent people and wisdom. I’d personally consider Kanye to have a high capacity for intelligence but that he is ungrounded, unwell and foolish

@Gidiot Hehe stop going to work tomorrow onward and see what happens

How do you know you understood his points quite well? Did you ever ask for clarification at any point in this discussion or have you just been telling him how wrong/ right his is after a first watch? I don’t know everything and I don’t know if Leo is right or wrong or if my interpretation of his is right or wrong. I’m going to approach these last two videos with humility and patience because I am generally left leaning. I sense and intuit a lot of powerful points were made in this video that needs to be integrated with Leo’s other work, and other people’s works. And, maybe you do gaslight throughout your original post if you were to read what you said and rematch it that may be more obvious. Some simple example would be around the spiral and development models. Leo states often in other videos I’d not this one that these models are finite etc… unlike how you portray your interpretation of his absolutist views on them. Not sure if that’s really gaslighting or what. Another example would be saying his ideas aren’t tier 2 and that he’s not even past stage green. Which seems to be, and I maybe wrong… but it seems to me to misunderstand the context of the videos. He’s criticizing the left and discussing the strengths and values, perspectives of stages blue and orange. A normal tier 1 person would not likely be able to reflect on Critisim of his own political leaning. Personally I’m going to need to sit with the videos and contemplate and self reflect over time. I thought there was a lot of interesting ideas throughout part 1 and 2. It seemed almost grounding.

Should probably be care to only speak for yourself. I feel like I’d like to respond to your points and ask questions, etc If you re-read your own post do you really feel like you wrote that from a place of integrity?

Just started pt 2

So, I turn 27 in 2 weeks and the truth is: I am balding. I’ve struggled with this for awhile However, I recently realized hair systems and wigs are a thing and wondering if anyone has experience with them.

anyone enjoy taking 4acodmt? thoughts and experiences?

Haven't smoked for 3 months, but I also want to smoke this weekend as it's a celebration for me. I think I will hold out. I am not sure. Technically I may have inhaled a bit 2 weeks ago. I am not striving to be completely perfect in my counting of months. I didn't light a joint, smoke and fall back into chronic use for 3 months. I expect a big a shakiness but I will keep my streak counting going for my own encouragement. I have no smoked a joint in 3 months.