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I’ve been reading other people’s responses. From what I read others are open to it. It seems pretty one sided you arguing with everyone else. So I said “we”. People are open to genetics playing a role in intelligence. But, not between genetics of entire races because their no science to support that claim. ”Our understanding of genetics and evolution” are you sure about that? The only source you share contradicted this. How can it be blatantly obvious given science and genetics when our current understanding says otherwise?

Can’t X if Y is imaginary unless you imagine it

I was wondering wut was going annnnn

I used to live there, enjoy!

@Heart of Space We are open to, and realize that genetics play a factor in intelligence. I think that’s been said many times throughout the thread. However, we are saying that because there are many factors at play for a demographic’s IQ we can’t single out genetics. You can assume it’s because we don’t want to come off as racist. But, that isn’t the case. I have openly pondered and researched this years ago. I came to the ideas that there’s simply many factors and that environment, economic, social factors play the biggest role for entire populations development with IQ, values, spiral development etc.. Who are you listening to out there promoting these ideas for you?

Yeah, I think that too I don’t really know but, reincarnation even if it’s not sequential in terms of this dream is likely as I am here now

I don’t know Ive had some awakenings but… Solipsism, God Realization, Leo saying he doesn’t have his own consciousness, then saying there’s infinite Gods… wuts going on here Ive had all these experiences but I still don’t really know. I’m maturing and growing a lot the last year.

This dude literally just shared an article and was like “if only you did a few seconds of digging” then didn’t read the whole article which then actually made an argument directly against his main point here in the thread. Then, he doubles down on his point. “You guys just don’t get it. It’s science. Some scientists agree. But only in private”. Which some how he knows what people think in private but not publicly. Yeah? So what if some people agree with you. Plenty more don’t. There’s not gonna be any point of speaking to this guy. He is aggressively, stubbornly ignorant in his opinion and claims to be “scientific” ahah You can walk a donkey to his own reflection and say “this, this is you! Just fucking look” and the donkey will still say “nee haa”

@Tudo Does it make the idea of tomorrow not make sense? If it’s all a dream how can anything makes sense? In some ways couldn’t it make reincarnation make perfect sense? If God is all alone and infinitely powerful after is dies it just imagines a new life thus “reincarnating” as something else. I have to admit and will continue to admit I don’t know what happens after death. But, I suspect it’s pretty great.

For some reason and I don’t know why yet this spawn thing seems very silly

“Love for ever love is free let’s talk forever you and me”

Everyone should review the video on stage yellow as well. Then watch the left videos.

He has tried to run for president. He stated he wanted to a few years ago at an awards show.

Important video to review for those who resonated with this thread.

Fake AF

@JTL Their language is making me uncomfortable

@Max_V I don’t know her. It can totally be a turn off. Maybe you can bring it up, maybe you can talk about it. But, maybe she’s finds it a turn off. This is why we have professionals.

I’m not saying you are being hateful. I think you really are thinking about this reasonably/ rationally from your own perspective. I don’t know you. Maybe you are a racist. It’s at least possible, very likely you are. You bring up good points about black peoples physical attributes. There may be differences among different ethnic groups in their mental abilities overall. Lets say that’s the case (this is also why I bring up different forms of intelligence beyond IQ). Black people clearly demonstrate in pop culture a high level of creative, artistic, and physical intelligence and ability. When it comes to academics and thinking it’ likely too early in societies development to measure it in history to decide whether it’s genes or not. I don’t know the data on this though. This is due to lack of generational wealth, economic challenges, red lining, school zoning, etc I would need two large, equally well off populations of blacks and whites and then compare their IQ over time. IQ doesn’t even measure ones likeliness of being successful in life or business. Though I have read studies about DNA tests done that have struggled to tell the difference between black and white people. You may be over attributing genetics to how a person develops. There’s more that goes into a persons physical development than genetics, even how we grow etc… Why would blacks be less intelligent than whites, even if there is a difference in their mental abilities? Part of my struggle with this is I’ve known Many smart, talented and highly successful blacks people. I’ve also known some that were clearly less intelligent. But, that goes for whites as well. I realize I can’t use my personal experience with this. I’d like to see everyone’s argument objectively as best I can.

I find it strange you mentioned there’s so many factors in how cultures, demographics, and individuals develops but you think genes are the main reasons for their decisions. How do you know it’s not historical and present survival needs? For example, if you study American economics and look at people’s personal finance psychology the survival and economic needs someone is raised it vastly changes behaviour, risk taking, savings, spending, etc… the next generation can act vastly different than a previous generation simply due to differences in economic opportunity. Have you heard of “Guns, Germs and steel”? By Jared Diamond? It’s a pretty strong theory as to why different populations around the world developed differently and it had nothing to do with genetics and everything to do with survival. I guess, I don’t get why your singling out genetics. I also don’t get why your over generalizing both whole ethnic groups, as well as how people judge others intelligence when you say “everyone assumes genetics when it comes to intelligence “ which if your honest might just be your own filter your assuming others have.

@Heart of Space You haven’t mentioned why EVERYONE assumes genetics when it comes to ones intelligence when clearly this forum shows otherwise. Ill ask you question to gain clarity. If you wanna respond you can, or if you wanna be snarky you can do that too. You could be glad I’m seeking to understand you instead of just debating.

Why do you think that everyone thinks this?

Please review tier 2 before contuing to judge Leo and others for not meeting your ideas of Tier 2. @Phil777

@Phil777 what do you mean? Human slavery and eating meat aren’t really symmetrical. As I understand it, a hallmark of being tier 2 is being able to understand others choices and actions without judgment or condemnation. Okay, I’d like to ask some questions. 1. What does being tier 2 to you mean?