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I don’t want to kiss his ass. But, I appreciate this man. If I saw him I would put my hand on my heart and nod with a smile of gratitude.

A routine is really important. You gotta customize it to you.

@Michael Jackson Can you please change your signature? I feel like it’s disrespectful to have something like that every time I have to scroll past one of your posts. Please bring maturity to the forum. Not take a steaming dump on it every time you post with that signature.

Wow, that’s an important quote

I personally think people saying Leo’s views on dating and pickup is toxic need to: 1. Study all the current ideologies and trends going on for young men right now 2. Study masculine and feminine dynamics and psychology 3. Work on your own shadow, shame and traumas around your sexuality and pleasure 4. Actually watch or rewatch the 3 part series on getting laid. 5. Deeply contemplate what is needed for young men in our society. Guilting and shaming young men to not want sex, to not meet women, to not do it in a skillfully way is simply retarded. You are scared and hurt and need to work on that. You want to become a man of value right? You want to be able to approach women and get to know them? Have a fun time together? Maybe have sex and enjoy the night? Maybe fall in love and build a conscious relationship? Leo, in his series warns against harming women, warns against using them, warns against abusing your power, warns against cheating or encouraging girls to cheat, warns against girls who are too drunk, etc etc I think, if you are going to teach pickup at all that 3 part series is very powerful. Men learning to socialize and meet women is a very very very good thing. We have a loneliness epidemic with many young men. This is leading to suicides, rapes, sexual assaults, depression, anxiety, and weird twisted acts and ideologies. Teaching young men how to get sex is a good thing! How to get it in a healthy conscious way is a good thing. Men, and women are designed to attract one another. There is so much shame and toxicity in our culture some of you in my view can’t tell up from down. Meet girls, have fun, have sex, start relationships. Teach your brother the right way to find sex, to find mates. So they don’t end up raping or, being some sad salty needy fuck their whole lives. Humans studying human psychology to have success in the social realm can be done in a healthy way and I think Leo did this. Teach your brothers to be Men! That’s love. That’s part of love.

@roopepa Hey man, I understand you went through a hard time. Best wishes. Go do what make you feel well.

@Inliytened1 I find humility in his videos but I also see someone who worked hard

I remember reading in Thick Face Black Heart, the author talks about how people think Enlightened people should be passive, soft and humble when in actuality they can come off as arrogant, and even aggressive at times. People have fantasy.

@flowboy I understand. I just think we are here and growing. It’s pretty fresh for actualized. Give them time.

@flowboy A lot of our community is just not there yet. These guys are learning just the beginning phases of attraction. We have a lot of young men here. I get that it’s probably a bit toxic and uncomfortable. However, this is a big problem with young men all around the world right now.

I think suffering, if handled with consciousness over time is very valuable. That’s how you learn the value of things.

I am the least enlightenment

Yeah forget everyone else who enjoys his work. It’s all about roopepa and what they want.

@roopepa No, it’s a teaching style. I really enjoy both the content and the delivery of the videos. But think you are just triggered and booty bothered. I believe in being humble. I personally watch from a lot of sources and it’s clear to me… though Leo is finite, and like all teachers has areas he does well and others not so much. He is genuine. He is aware he is speaking to thousands he will disagree with him. His “arrogance” is important. Telling someone to destroy their work is a pretty low thing to do. If you don’t like it, that’s fine. It helps and inspires a lot of people.

@roopepa I have no idea where you are man…

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1. I am talking about everything with the body all at once: brain, nervous system, organs, Bioelectrical/ Qi centres and pathways. People can spend a lot of time feeling stressed, anxious, and they can also suppress emotions and traumas. This means part of the body is still holding it. Unless you consciously intervene with some kind of somatic practices these patterns are essentially going to repeat and play out. 2. The organs play a role in neurotransmitters, for example 90% of serotonin is found in the intestines. Organs play a role in brain function, etc. Each organ also plays a bioenergetic role working in conjunction with other organs and body parts. Hormones play a role with organs yes. That is the endocrine system and it’s relationship with organs. 3. Yes, for example in Qigong we use the lower pumps, breathing and heat to pump energy up from the lower body through to the brain. We cycle this energy through the body to nourish the brain, Tissues, bones etc. Very pleasurable. The more you do various Qigong practices which involve: 1. Body scan 2. Breathing 3. Directing the Qi 3. warming up body 4. purging negative emotions through sound, self massage, shaking, pumping the arms, tapping certain acupressure appoints etc 5. building up Qi, circulating it, purifying it, smiling into it, tonyfing it in the body.. The more you practice the more you gain the understanding of negative Qi, positive Qi. You can have lots of energy or a little energy. It can be healthy or unhealthy.

Guys, let's keep this away from personal points. Remember, only you can discover what is true. Try the techniques, find out for yourself. Let's be kind to one another here. We are all intelligent people. We all have different views on these things which is healthy. You guys likely wont ever agree on what techniques work, what awakening is and so accepting that is important. My advice is: Get direct experience, smash through the noise. You have access to so many techniques with Leo's teachings, other teachers, the internet and the forum. Nothing is stopping you. Unless you listen to people who aren't willing to do... what you yourself must do. Find out what is true.

I didn't say that. For 99% of people who would reach the deepest levels of awakening.. which I lack better words to point to. Just going about it willy nilly, sitting for 20 minutes on a cushion and not putting effort or intention into is won't get you anywhere. It's paradoxical that to reach levels of awakening takes effort. That's how every domain of life works. You need clarity, intention, a long time horizon and effort. Resisting what I am saying, and all your beliefs around awakening is also ego. So, it's tricky and nearly useless to say "so and so is ego" Yeah, welcome to the murkiest of waters. Anyway, I am not debating. Just, allowing my post to be here for others to read so they can see my perspective that: ONLY THEY can do this. Just smash through and learn to think and awakening for yourself. Don't listen to anyone telling you it's just easy, or this one technique will do it, or that trying to do it is ego. No, you go and do it. You go and discover what is true. You go and try the techniques. You go and become wise. You go and gain direct experience. You go and have deep profound awakenings. You go and discover what is true. You go and develop a backbone to ignore foolish spiritual tropes and dogmas. You go and discover infinite love and the grace of God. You go and become sage. You go and build you deep understanding of reality. You go and meet girls. You go and contemplate. You go and self actualize. Ignore everyone else because they will drag you down. They will nay say you, distract you, saying things which aren't true. They will tell you "enlightenment is so and so". But are THEY enlightened? Are they deeply spiritually pure? Are they deeply awake and emotionally mature? Probably not. So smash through the bullshit and keep going if you really want it. When you have your deepest awakenings, when you realize Peace, or stillness or infinite love, or God... That state of consciousness. That is all I have ever wanted to share with you at the deepest levels. When you reach that awakening you know what so few know. You will say to God "Thank you". It will be worth it.

Kindly, this is not true. I want everyone here to focus on direct experience. There is a lot of noise around this subject. People on the forum could make a list of all the spiritual tropes, sayings, ideas, beliefs etc... In reality there is a lot of nuance here. In reality more trips will make a difference. The more spiritual work you do... meditation, contemplation, etc the better. You need to discern structure vs content here. It's pretty much impossible to meditate your way to a psychedelic state of consciousness in 20 minutes of meditation so please be wary of people when they say these types of things. In reality, as a consciousness you can be more or less 'conscious'. It's also not linear, and highly complicated and requires implicit understanding to really grasp. However, even the idea of 'enlightenment' is misleading. There are also different schools of enlightenment. Most of them I know require practice and the use of techniques. YOU, in the end will have to go all the way, become your own authority on this because there is a lot of people on the forum, and in every spiritual community etc that just spews whatever they believe is true. Their own dogmas etc. You will have to cut through the BS. If Zero is infinity, and no amount of tripping will bring you closer to enlightenment. You might as well do 200 trips over the next 5-10 years just to be sure. What have you got to lose? If you don't go and get direct experience with different techniques and just listen to what "others" tell you... You are falling into a trap. You might as well: Trip, meditate, do yoga, contemplate, read books, Qigong, gain direct experiences etc. Simply don't believe an "other" and realize the uselessness of 99% of spiritual debating.

@John Paul What do you mean by game? Like an ice breaker thing?

Not all women are broken, needy victims. I think that’s an unfair over generalization. People enjoy each other’s company. I think many women are interested in casual sex, I had direct experience of this in university. There was lots of fun casual sex and fun being had.

@Inliytened1 Hey, I don’t think so. Men and women can enjoy sharing a night together. Clubs, parties and enjoy sex with people can be a fun night.

I am considering locking this as we have moved far away from the original point. You are welcome to open a new thread in the dating and sexuality section to further discuss these points.

I think some women DO want that. Happens a lot. I’ve had sex with a lot of girls and we clearly were just friends, or clearly one night stands. It can be all good. It can go both ways for girls or guys.