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As someone who has tried and actively trying different techniques, I can say that a psychedelic can show you things that meditation can not. A lot of you guys here like to posture as if you know. But you really don't. I personally, do not know what I don't know. But, I do know that different techniques result in different results. I've read many books on meditation, and practice regulary. It's not for awakening. Meditation is not for awakening. It's for increasing your consciousness, mindfulness, inner peace, learning to feel your Qi, and can be used in part with reading self help, self inquiry, contemplation, and life experience to improve life. Or, you can just learn to love sitting, and meditating. Meditation, self inquiry, yoga, Qigong, breathwork, self reflection, etc are all great practices. But, they are not the awakening Leo is speaking about. Categorically different efforts. But, it's not a psychedelic which literally changes the "Brain chemistry" instantly and dramatically. That, psychedelic awakening has shown me things, that I can't put into words but are true. That, frankly make some of your claims that Awakening is this simply buddhist idea of meditation, or even self inquiry is just dumb. God is something so amazing it transcends any human forms of spiritual practice. You are not human. Human spirituality is a dream. Which is fine, it's just not awake. You can't possibly know what another person has awoken to unless you yourself awake to it. That is the nature of studying and practicing awakening. In order to understand it you must do it. If Leo has indeed awoken to some Alien God Consciousness which is what we are, then that is the case. If he hasn't, well how would you know unless you did it? See, you sort of just need to be humble, question all your spiritual, epistemological, metaphysical framings. As new forms of spirituality are developed, practiced and introduced to you, me and the world I think it is healthy to be humble, open minded and also skeptically healthy. Many of you think you know what infinity is, awakening is, what spirituality is, what God is, what meditation is, what self inquiry is, what consciousness is... But you don't. You don't and the more I study, practice, awaken and grow the more this is obvious to me.

@Inliytened1 Meditation is useful. But, it's not being AWAKE.

I've been contemplating my use of the forum, feeling it out, self reflecting. I have decided that, of course I will continue to moderate the form. However, for my use here when I am engaging with you guys... If I deem you are a drama causer, or you are disrespectful, trolling, immature and don't respect my time on your threads then I will stop engaging with some of you guys. I've grown a lot, and have a lot of value I can offer to you. But, if you speak to me like a petty fool, I am not engaging. I have decided that I want to enjoy the use of the form, and I want to focus on constructive and higher conscious threads.

Way to shit on some of the best spiritual tools out there. Okay, I took a week break from posting because I was feeling like I was getting to caught up in peoples bullshit. I've made two comments since my return, and both I regret it. Okay, I am taking another post break for a week. Will pop my head in from time to time.

@LSD-Rumi Thats totally off topic and none of your business. I will just observe your psychedelic use going forward and stay out of it. Just stay safe and develop wisdom with your tripping.

It's alright. We have to learn the mature way of using these substances. Just, be very careful. Some mistakes when using these substances really can't be reversed (Like hurting ourselves or others.) Go slow, take a break from tripping and contemplate how you want to go about using them. This means tripping protocols, integration protocols, what books maybe you could read about good tripping protocols. Stay safe.

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@Salvijus Okay, don’t be a jerk to me

@axiom forum isn’t awakening

@axiom Awakening and spirituality is not just activity of mind, as to be some arbitrary thing. It’s pretty important I think to develop a deep understanding of reality and God. Sort of, the biggest deal. What’s not a big deal is petty human shit.

@Gesundheit2 We are God. Reality is God. Assholes are God.

Self love. By learning to love reality instead of need it to love us back.

This is true. I’d like to see a comment on his recent outbursts actually. I feel ambiguous about the comments when he has been angry with the trolls. But, I also think he has dealt really well. I know I’d be upset if people constantly accused me of being a cult leader, of encouraging suicide of my followers, and all the other things people throw at him. I know that it’s not mentally healthy long term to just act like you aren’t upset or pissed with people, when you actually are. It could be the healthiest thing for him to actually be authentic in those moments. I think he is just going to be himself, authentic etc. Sometimes you just got to tell assholes they need to fuck off. Being a spiritual teacher or life coach doesn’t mean you need to be a doormat, or let people walk over you all the time. I’ve only ever had respectful interactions with Leo, but I also don’t actively troll, gaslight, and accuse him of nasty things. I may not agree with him… but just like in your day to day life… if someone was constantly harassing you…. You’d probably tell them to fuck off. Also, a lot of you guys have that exact double standard. You’ve never seen other spiritual leaders in a room full of people accusing him of nasty shit, telling him to stop making his work and teachings, telling him he is evil, deluded, wrong, Acting with ill intent, etc… imagine any other person not even spiritual teacher having that happen over and over and over again… he is a human and will get fucking upset. There was a guy here a couple weeks back, going on and on about Leo’s “recent out bursts”… who then had a far worse outburst speaking to me in a private message… so, you know we need to be able to hold ourselves to a higher standard as well if we want Leo to do so. I will continue to let myself observe. I don’t really think it’s a big deal.

@bambi nonesense

What are are the principles, concepts, ideas, and resources that exist out there that can be used to overcome difficult situations in life? Life can be hard some times, and we should have the mindset and resources to deal with these situations. I have some books in mind I will list, but I always like to see what other people have in mind as well. Life can be tough. But, if we are committing to life long learn and have a long time horizon we can achieve things. I believe this.

@Nilsi sounds like a good book

@StarStruck Read the thread, a bunch of people were shitting on him

@Nilsi I’m still new to the idea. But there is a lot in there as a newbie already that I value like… how to masturbate really well instead of how most young men have been trained. Ive had the full body orgasm he talks about but it’s so different from what I’ve grown up doing.

I recommend asking chat GPT What are the top 100 books for honouring my life?

@Twega Books for Honouring Your Life: 1. Code of the Extraordinary Mind - Vishen Lahkiani 2. The Art of Loving - Erich Fromm 3. Pathways to Perfect Living - Vernon Howard 4. Mystic Path to Cosmic Power - Vernon Howard 5. The Greatest Salesman in The World -Og Mandino 6. The Richest Man in Babylon by George S Clason 7. Adversity Quotient by ? 8. Guide to Rational Living by ? 9. The Success Principles - Jack Canfield 10. Loving What Is - Byron Katie 11. Total Forgiveness - R.T Kendall 12. How to be an adult in love - David Richo 13. Personal Finance for Dummies 14. Simple Qigong - Mantak Chia and Lee Holden 15. Full Catastrophe Living - Jon Kabat Zin 16. Multi-orgasmic Man - Mantak Chia and more

Solipsim is true And people are not empty vessels. They are just as full as you!

@StarStruck False

@Gesundheit2 who is for frank?

Good points. Nothing I say is gonna change anyone’s mind. I personally don’t care if he occasionally cusses out some assholes. At the same time, I am trying to observe everything objectively.