Thought Art

@Nilsi with regards to Leo’s health and social life you simply make a lot of unfounded projections. Also, I really think you have a bad grasp of Leo’s work.

Right these are his most anti life teachings Very anti life. I have no idea what you mean by “some other world”

Meta AF. Though, I will be cutting back on my sarcasm as I realize it’s not in alignment with my values as a mod.

Rule 1: No thinking Rule 2: Ban people for no reason Rule 3: Be ideological Rule 4: Lock all quality threads Rule 5: specifically be unfair to you out of everyone else Rule 6: Enforce a thought police agenda. Don’t think like Leo? Well, that’s your first mistake bucko

Where in the guidelines can’t you speak about Wilber, Nietzsche, Schmachtenberger, Peterson? Actualized.org is a very small community by the way. The internet is very open for you to think whatever you want. Do you think you are really self reflecting in a quality way? You SHOULD think for yourself. But if you break the guidelines, are rude to others and are a jerk we moderate you. That’s what a mod does. Instead of twisting our moderation based on your fantasy of what we are doing why don’t you actually consider for a second what the guidelines are by reading them over. Then, ask yourself as you observe if we are in accordance with that. Don’t like the guidelines? Too bad.

I don’t know about the first part. But, I doubt it would attract more users. You aren’t marketing it. You are just making it safe to use. Have you read a case study of people making illegal drugs legal increased its use? Made it more addictive? Sounds like an assumption. The real problem is the addiction.

Simply make them all legal to possess in certain quantities but illegal to sell. Then, focus on the mental health and trauma aspect. Make the policies around drugs oriented towards healing, health, wellness and curing of trauma. Stop punishing drug addicts with jail time and criminal records. Safe use sites are good idea too. But, people should be able to use in their own homes as well. Increase education around safe drug use. The government should create a pure and healthy supply of the street drug to ensure people don’t overdose and then support them with whatever therapy is needed. Make them easy to access with little to no questions asked and make them affordable. Try to use systems thinking to run the street dealers out of business somehow. Make mental health services widely available and affordable. Invest billions in training speakers, therapists, etc in helping heal these communities. Creating stronger regulations around doctors over prescribing and better rules around what pain killers can and can’t be used. Addiction as it is costs billions of dollars a year. It’s a problem worth fixing. Demonizing a drug using addict is nonesense and hypocritical. If someone has a hard drug problem they are likely simply trying to cope with and cover their pain. Covering pain should not be illegal. This is idiocy. It’s arbitrary that some of these drugs are illegal while smoking Tabacco, alcohol are legal. Focus on the whole system of the social matrix at once. Why are people so hurt, traumatized and full of pain that they need to cover the pain? The pain and trauma is the real problem with our society. The drug use is a last resort solution for people to cover their pain. They know no other way. The addiction is a tactic of sorts to not feel the pain, shame, guilt, trauma, etc if their abuse and neglect of various sorts.

As long as you orient your overall goal towards a creative end, not a competitive one that’s ideal

Lol weird I still don’t fully grasp my 5meo experience very paradoxical

This is good stuff. Just relax and don’t take yourself so seriously. You are totally fine, attractive and lovable. This one day will be so obvious you’ll look back at this and laugh.

I understand. These feelings can be difficult. Here are some things that helped me 1. I realized I need to learn to speak to 1000’s of women and many won’t like me. That is okay and totally normal for all men and women. 2. I must love myself and give myself the love. 3. my mind will play tricks on me when I feeling sad and in pain. But, this too shall pass. I need not project some present pain into the future. 4. your life is long, you are young and this is an exciting journey you will take.

“Is this finite part of consciousness absolute?” Godel where are yooooou Derrida where are yooooou Lao Tzu where are yoooou

Forget demonizing the ego. If you are depressed and going out to enjoy yourself focus on a healthy ego, and burning through your karma. Enjoy the competition, enjoy the thrill of this area of human life. Just don’t take it too seriously or overly identify with it. But, enjoy it.

Make a distinction between someone talking, and your direct experience of consciousness itself. Think of something illogical. I think there is a paradox, that though god is trans rational there is a logic to it. When you are having your God realization you will realize it’s not logical and can’t be put into words. Though, you can point to it with words. Leo’s videos are not the absolute, they are not god realization, they are not infinite love… they are a video like a finger pointing to the moon. Realize the actual moon not the symbols pointing to it.

Reality is just consciousness

Move towards healing

@Jodistrict 5meo when vapes can have a very sweet smell the powder smells like a chemical

i,i

I think if vaping having a good friend there matters. Someone to take and hold the vape. Man, just had a huge awakening

Synthetic is just 99% the pure molecule.

Vaping DMT sucks it's very harsh i find. Maybe it depends on technique and tool.

I would say my biggest healing from psychedelics was from a bag of mushrooms a friend gave me after an open mic. Went home and slowly ate the bag over and hour and a half. Cured me depression, but… I also have other things going for me in my life.

I really need to contemplate this more

I heard at the end of news segment that the balloon could not provide more spy information than what satellites already can.

--- Open Contemplation It's pretty amazing how many interpretations there are of say, a single public figure, event, business, product, etc... Or even just a thing like.. What is a road, or a city, or a tree, or a toothbrush...? I think it's important to come to realize that everyone on this forum, and in society in general is filtering reality through their own unique matrix of understanding and their ego mind. This means that though we have access to the same raw 'external' data... How we perceive it is totally different. Our egos, education, brain and nervous system, genes etc all play a role in how we see reality. I also wonder how the 'observer effect' comes into play with how people interpret reality. I also wonder what the implications of solipsism would be to this contemplation. When we are using this forum, watching youtube videos, and other social media platforms I think it's important to begin to simply observe all the different types of responses and interpretations there are on things. It is sort of humbling. It also makes me think more and more just how little I care about other peoples opinions on these subjects. Because instead of taking a single persons opinion and allowing that to influence me I realize that there are billions of humans who could feel very differently. I also have to become increasingly sovereign in my way of thinking. I also come to realize that peoples opinions on things are always changing, peoples don't really know how they feel about something, there are many unconscious factors that come into play with regards to peoples interpretations and reasoning processes. Have you ever watched a movie and thought it was about something? But, upon watching it again you realize a different interpretation? Have you ever been raised to think a certain way but then come to realize that you were indoctrinated into a way of seeing and thinking? It's especially difficult to gauge the value of other peoples opinions, expertise, and ideas on subjects when we ourselves have yet to become well educated, experienced and to have gathered adequate requisite variety in life to be able to navigate at a high level. So, we generally don't know very much about the world as it is very complex, we have a lot of unconscious programming that filters our perspectives, we generally don't contemplate or self reflect very deeply, we generally don't have deep emotional mastery, nor we do have solid understanding of our self deception mechanisms. Our opinions are always changing... most people don't watch high quality media sources, read books, or high quality podcasts. Most people are lazy, reactionary, short sighted, myopic, uneducated, afraid, closed minded, oriented toward what is easy, entertaining and instantly gratifying. People are also oriented towards judgement, fear, shame, and other various toxic ways of seeing the world. People enjoy to judge, catastrophes and cast stones at others. 99% of humanity is not concerned with Truth. And most of those who claim are are concerned with Truth, really are just full of shit. We have many assumptions and ideas about the world which remain unquestioned and we have yet to go through the critical thinking processes and direct experiences to really know... Most of humanity operates at relatively low states of consciousness as well and has no reference experience for things such as infinite love, death, God, Absolute Truth, and state the bring forth a sense of total lack of bias and unity with all things. Therefore, because people are essentially sponges and currents in the ocean of human consciousness they do not know anything. They are just reacting, surviving and moving through life like sheep. People want to remain in their ideas about their religion whether it be Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, etc. They can't really interface with radically different sorts of spiritual schools. Though, they share many similarities... Even within these symbolic categories what a Christian is, or more specifically what a good Christian is, is different to each individual. How people inside, and outside of Christianity see Christianity is different. Every Christian likely has a different idea of what Christianity is. Though, I am sure there is enough similarities throughout those who are a part of this collective ego structure. So what really is a thing? What really is a religion? What really is a public figure? What really is a piece of art? What really is a tree, a rock, a goat, a plane, what really is morality? What really is good and evil? What really is science or truth, or God? This is incredibly difficult to really grasp. Reality is so deep and open ended. Are things just what we think they are? How does my language and my cultures reference experience limit my ability to interpret reality? What about my education? My experiences? My preferences and biases? If things are just what we think or feel they are.... Then things are mind stuff. Constantly changing with each new news cycle, scientific paper, or interaction. I my view of myself or my friends changes so regularly... Then, what are we but a temporal flow as time continues. In this contemplation we are swimming in the deepest waters. I am now thinking about the implications of Godel's incompleteness theorem, the word of Jacque Derrida, heavy metal and toxic material exposure to people bodies, trauma, genes, science, mysticism, relative and absolute truth... There is so much going on here with how we interpret reality and what we can or can understand or know for certain. Each source of information comes with nuggets of relative truth, and relative noise. We have to be able to understand the mental health, education and orientations of the social matrix as we go about developing maturity and mastery on understanding how interpretation of reality works. Contemplating how interpretation works is a very deep subject. I am only beginning to just see the tip of the surface. I won't be able to conclude this post in this opening. Stay posted for follow up posts as I share some powerful questions and contemplations around the idea of interpretation.