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@JellyDogShoe_1Mil God

@JellyDogShoe_1Mil Sure, that’s nothing new to me. But, Thai field of awareness… is dreaming and the finite consciousness which is me, this human intelligence is still learning and growing and awakening to understand itself ever deeper. Waking up, realizing things like time, space, external reality, others etc are things I’m constructing is a lot deeper than just “awareness man”

@JellyDogShoe_1Mil Well, Maybe one day you’ll be surprised. Your framing could very easily lead to a retardation of one’s spiritual potential. Sure, you exist. You are reality. But… you can awaken deeper and deeper into it. There’s a lot more here than just “you exist”. Yes, you exist. But…. Personally there’s something of the depth of realization that I’ve observed and still, I feel dumbfounded. I am sensing a Buddhist framing here. Contrary to Buddhist framing I do think there’s is great depth to reality, there are types of awakenings that are deep, profound and meaningful and… yeah

Thank you Leo

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@JellyDogShoe_1Mil Depends how deeply you wanna know

@JellyDogShoe_1Mil Yeah okay, tell me that when you have a deep awakening

My God man, wake up There are awakenings.

At the same time, I know I had some pretty deep insights and awakenings. It's still, mysterious

Honestly I still feel like I don’t know anything sometimes

Working on my God Bod for the summer

I do find it confusion. These AI are creativity video games, amazing art, have become experts in psychology, coding, law, etc It’s not clear what it will change. But, it is clear that learning to use the AI, and also developing your own intelligence and learning to do deep work will be important. speaking broadly about every information or knowledge based industry

If am awake is there a forum?

Go to a cafe once a day, get out of the house and just bring the book, some tunes and a timer ⏱ on the phone

@StarStruck Interesting

@MisterNobody I hope you realize how much of an arrogant fool you come off as sometimes. It helps when learning from someone to empty your cup.

I have to admit something, even though I respect Leo very deeply, and I say this as in humour... When I check to see if Leo is active on the forum I think "Is grumpy on?" and it's funny to me. I know, he may not be grumpy but sometimes I think he might be... just a little.

@Jowblob To learn.

Week can be great for insights. Rumi also has poems where he speaks of getting really drunk or high and having insights. Just one poem of many, one perspective on things of many.

@Moksha Maybe it is ego, selfishness and trying to make you look and feel as if you are better than others. Or, if you are a teacher students who knows what awakening is, you may need to tell them. "Hey, look. I can see where you guys are at and you are not awake. I know, because I actually became awake and I can simply see you are not awake." In that case, a teacher must tell his students that he is awake, and stress this point. Leo isn't framing his teachings like other teachers and is trying to cut through the bullshit Buddhist/ New age ideas of awakening. I personally cannot confirm his awakening, at this moment. But, It is clear to me he is more awake and a better thinker than many other spiritual teachers. Especially the people on this forum. No fucking way they are awake. To proclaim one's truth, is not necessarily an act of Ego. Also, this Ego nonsense is problematic and is often used as a tool to gaslight people from sharing their insights, developing themselves, or saying what they know to be true. It needs to be said with care, when we accuse someone of "acting from ego".

My view on your Realizations 1. This is false. Saying you are more awake than others does not need to be egoic, but can simply be true. You may reach a point where you realize that you are the most conscious being in existence. When, and if you realize this, then if you say it's the case then it would be true. Others though, cannot verify this for you. Which is challenging. 2. Yes, taking offence at someone saying they are more awake than you, is ego. Even here I foresee come caviats 3. Sure. I actually think the more awake you become, maybe the more boundaries dissolve, but at the the say time more high quality distinctions are made. I am not convinced it's purely that awakening or enlightenment is to dissolve boundaries. I think that is more buddhist framing. Thinking, knowing making high quality distinctions are also a part of becoming more awake. At least, in some aspects of the awakening process, as a human being. To learn to think, be wise, intelligent, use wise discernment etc are to me, signs of a deeply awakened and wise person. At the highest levels of my own awakenings, and I am not saying I am awake... It's ineffable how One, it all is. But, each awakening I've had has lead me to making higher and higher quality distinctions within the oneness as a human. 4. Sure 5. True 6. Maybe. This is assuming that all experiences are equal, symmetrical in value to understanding God and awakening. I would say that is false. There are higher states of knowing that simply aren't accessible to most people, and buddhists especially so... They just like to imagine that all states are an equal playing field. This is false. 7. Buddhist Framing. This framing is also in some Hindu and other types of spiritual framing. I am not sure there is a purpose of life. But, I do myself create the meaning that the purpose of my life personally, is to live masterfully and be deeply loving and contribute to the world. But, this is a meaning I have created. For me, life is a love simulator. I am choosing to create for myself the most powerful framing I can. Which, does include aspects of this buddhist framing but, transcends it.

Everything all at once. Everything Now!

@LSD-Rumi He says Wine, Weed and sleep put us into a sleep. They numb essentially is how I perceive the poem. Wine makes us leave the two worlds, weed lowers our ability to be self conscious and sleep puts us to sleep.

@MisterNobody How do you describe God?