Thought Art

@zurew I am reading through your guys conversation. I went through and checked I understood the definitions of the philosophical terms. I read what you wrote, and I read what Leo wrote. I am left thinking Leo is correct on his points. Not because he is Leo but his points make sense. Especially, the point made that logic only holds up through empirical observation of reality which requires consciousness and intelligence at the end of the day. Computers and AI are only extensions of This because humans have applied their empirical observations to their logic, and the design of computers and algorithms. It seems you’re both coming at the conversation from different angles. You want something from the conversation Leo isn’t interested in. You also seem to be projecting bad faith onto his responses which is unfortunate. The terms and ideas you are discussing are rather basic philosophy. Leo isn’t really engaging with you and then you are projecting all this stuff onto the situation. I think your attitude it combative and not coming from a place of neutral, open and contemplative philosophical discussion which is why Leo makes comments on your attitude here. That is my interpretation right now as I read through.

If you weren’t conscious how would you give a computer anything?

Very cool psychedelic music video and good song. Chad does the music and animation.

I’ve been socializing a lot the last week or so. Slowly ramping up. My goal is to go out to a meetup everyone and build state. Socializing is very healing. I am doing it sober. I also head home at 9pm to also maintain my sleep score. Ive also gone on two dates recently. you gotta roll with the good and the bad. I guy got pissed because I asked is Columbia was beside Peru, lol anyway. Next. when you first go out your state can be a bit low, awkward and weird, logical. But, you build your state by just talking, breathing, relaxing and being in your body. If you find yourself in a busy crowded bar, if you sit and wait in a confident pose usually a guy or two will walk up and chat. You use that to build state and start linking through various conversations. All the small talk is similar what matters is body language, laughing and being a good vibe.

@zurew okay, but without being conscious or Intelligent how you gonna do inductive or deduction reasoning?

I wonder. If you have the genetic ability maybe you gotta learn to use it?

@The Crocodile Yeah, but regardless of the medium it’s still a part of reality.

@Leo Gura Well, you could try.

You must not have read his whole comment when you replied with this.

@Husseinisdoingfine corruption

Haïti, mon pays Wounded mother I'll never see Ma famille set me free Throw my ashes into the sea Mes cousins jamais nés Hantent les nuits de Duvalier Rien n'arrête nos esprits Guns can't kill, soldiers can't see In the forest we are hiding Unmarked graves where flowers grow Hear the soldiers angry yelling In the river we will go Tous les morts-nés forment une armée Soon we will reclaim the earth All the tears and all the bodies Bring about our second birth Haïti, never free N'aie pas peur de sonner l'alarme Tes enfants sont partis In those days their blood was still warm

You've been dead for years, but you never knew. And the rabid bits of time have been eating you. But no one knows where we go... no one knows where we go, when we're dead or when we're dreaming. oooh-woo ooo... (x4) And you've been dead for Years, but you never knew... and the rabid bits of Time have been eating you... No one knows where we go... no one knows where we go, when we're dead or when we're dreaming

I always wanted to be the kinda guy that wore earings but my grandma shamed me when I pierced my ears in highschool. I always thought stretchers were cool. My ears can still take earings so I am ordering a pair.

The whole album slaps brings back old memories

It was a beautiful night, yeah the moon was climbing out of the mountains. And from the city in the ground came the sound of a million lights. We were headed to the center of our brain when they came a'knocking. They said we've seen you before, and we really like all of the stories. Ooh this world of wonder, we'll leave the bones of man, we never wanted to leave you. Ooh this world of wonder, we'll leave the bones of man, we never wanted to leave. When it touched my hand, I felt my mind open up like a valley. Then from a crack in the ground came the sound of a million legs. There was a silent flash before the earth started closing up on itself. I felt at peace and alive even though the ship was going down. Ooh this world of wonder, we'll leave the bones of man, we never wanted to leave you. Ooh this world of wonder, we'll leave the bones of man, we never wanted to leave you.

You were burning like a city of electric light

@Mu_ You can awaken to it. ♾️

@Mu_ No, I am not talking about “amount”. I am not even talking about unlimited variety. I am talking about 0 constraints.

@Mu_ No, because if a sentence ended at the last letter it would be constrained. Whether there is a period or not doesnt matter. That’s a clear straw man of something having 0 contraints being infinite. That is not the same as something with absolutely 0 constraints. We are exploring the logic of God. I think we first have to establish what something that has 0 contraints means. Even the fact that a sentence is a sentence is a constraint as well. Let alone of it ends in a period or a letter. “Just because something isn’t finite doesn’t mean it’s infinite” Well, what does it mean? If it’s not finite what is it? I am a noobie in this work. In a sense. I am exploring this work. Just don’t think about Pink Elephant.

@Mu_ Well, you are asking the one asking. If something has NO CONSTRAINTS, at all. Could it be finite? Something with absolutely 0 constraints… can’t be finite. Because, if it did what would cause those constraints? By saying that something that has 0 constraints isn’t infinite you are saying that it is constrained and finite. That makes no sense, if you use some basic logic. If reality is a void and nothing… as, what came before the Big Bang… then it has to be infinity because it is nothing, and nothing have no constraints. Making it infinity and paradoxical.

@Mu_ If something has no constraints… does it have edges, limitations or an end? Does something with no constraints need an authority?