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@Ponder Léo loves debates

A form of conformity I fall into is given music with more listens more value. For example if I see a song has 1bill streams and one with out 500million I tend to bias the one with more streams as better.

@Miguel1 There is a lot to learn.

Man, this is hard. Being conscious and intelligent is hard. I always find gaps in my thinking and I others and it’s just so hard.

Shitty OP1 practice demo In a little bored with the song but it’s fun to practice adding layers. Demo sucks, might move on to new song. Shitty cringy demo but… I get joy from creating and sharing my process.

@Leo Gura Okay. And as we explore this these distinctions can create tripping and confusion. Don’t expect instant insight and grasping of your points… It was unclear exactly the framing of your recent post. To me at least…. It’s not my responsibility to just get what you mean.

@Leo Gura We can contemplate conformity more but you can also admit their is layers to this. And, you said there was no evidence for these things in the green health post, did you not? We ask these questions because in the space of conformity as you provide example with commentary we need to make a distinction between what exactly the kind of conformity that is happening. It was unclear if you were for example labelling Wim Hoff conformity but also debunking its legitimacy by how you worded this recent blog post. That’s partly on you. A tied pod is one thing. A health trend is another. Pretty much every diet trend is a form of conformity is a good example. Perhaps there is lower and higher levels of conformity. Likely true at different levels of education and ego development. It seems apparent to me there are kinds of conformity, and things that can be conformity but aren’t always depending on the consciousness brought in. Enough for me today. Thanks for speaking with me a lot the last little bit. Stay well Leo. …. I would say conformity is a form of monkey see monkey do. It’s forming a social identity, or a habit or behaviour through osmosis of one’s culture. It is a survival mechanism that is largely unconscious. It is a form of heuristic for survival in a complex reality. It is a form of collective ego. Conformity is when someone identifies with, does, says, acts, etc in a mechanistic way through osmosis influence of their culture…. It’s a form of fitting in, being current, a limited form of truth seeking or defending. Okay, that’s my rough personal definition.

@Leo Gura Good example. It was ONE time okay? Jk 67

@Leo Gura It’s hard to tell what you mean. You say things like “no evidence” “people would shove pepper up their ass”, etc It’s hard to make a distinction what you mean sometimes. Like, are you saying each of these things has no actually evidence and everyone is stupid or are you saying people generally conform to these health trends like machines. Your crass approach is confusing sometimes…

@Leo Gura Leo sassy AF these days sheeesh 😂

However, try taking anyone conforming to a health trend to be more open minded, holistic, ask serious questions about their conclusions, why they are doing what they are doing, etc… yeah, I’ve met conformist Wim Hoff, conformist Vipassana, etc I love Qigong practice and have thousands of hours of practice and direct observation. But I find it cringe to see why people dressed in Chinese gown doing Qigong. It’s so cringe. I endure cringe when studying fields to mind the gold.

Some of the green health trends you list do have studies behind them. Not everyone doing those things is a blind retard just doing monkey see monkey do. I think there is conformity in those trends. But, there is health benefits some of these things and studies behind them. Acupressure is making a big difference for me. My studying of it for example has required me overcoming a lot of internal resistance, and focusing on doing it with open mindedness and curiosity. I feel amazing after a cold dip. I love breathing exercises. I love exercise and fitness. Those things make me feel good. I enjoy eating healthy. incense and natural oils, though I don’t buy all claims do bring sense of peace and beauty to my life… I know like you said not all things are absolute conformity if they are done largely by conformity. I grant you a point made. But, I also push back to allow me to make my own decision regarding X. “Leo smart, everyone dumb”. NOTE: Don’t fall into the meta trap of conforming to Leo’s opinions, conclusion or way of thinking. That’s a trap.

@Leo Gura And your own too.