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For all I know, it's born out of Nothing ?
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As we all do. Seems like everything is well. I'm sorry, what were we talking about again? ? Oh, yes! The mind.. That little bastard! ?
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So, you actually want to exist! ? At least for now.
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Careful what you wish for ?
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It depends on what you want.
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Lento replied to StarStruck's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@StarStruck You're not actually afraid of the pain. You're afraid of the fear. Think about it. -
Then, perhaps you're identifying with what you shouldn't identify with. EDIT: But anyway, so what?
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Where would you be then?
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Oh, poor mind! Create problems and then act like trying to solve them. The story of every mind's life!
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What are you guys even talking about?
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I've been experimenting for the last two days with the system I created. The first day sucked! So, I decided to roll with it. Today I have been observing myself while I completely let myself go without judgement. I noticed that my system is mostly backwards to my current self. My priorities seem to be not what I actually want. I don't like studying. I like exercising. I like doing the practices, but not researching too much. This is ridiculous. But I think it's necessary for achieving the balance I'm looking for. However, I'm still going to run my day by the default self, I won't force myself to change. But I will make minor adjustments that'll make my system more applicable. The good news is that I exercised for about two hours today! I never realised that I have this much of stamina before. This is really great! .. I realised that I have a weird connection to old monuments, especially citadels. I've always had that connection since I was a little kid, but I didn't know what it was. It's a feeling of life, like the citadel has a soul or something, and not just a bunch of rocks. There's a smell of life over there. It's haunting, and really hard to overlook. I never thought I'd ever say something like this ??♂️ .. Insight: thought is desire. Insight: fire is the main cause of evolution, but more on that later. .. Love is that which does not ever change.. "I'm gonna wait on you.. Gonna wait on you.." To my loved one, the only one ♥️
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For those who don't know what a non-dual state or awakening is. I'm going to create this thread based on my experiences, research, and understanding. Awakening is a state of complete self-expression, without any resistance to oneself whatsoever. There's a lot to say, but I'll try to be brief as much as possible. In the ordinary state; we, humans, tend to be having lots of fears, and therefore resist expressing many of the things we feel and the thoughts we think. In the higher states, however, the best description I find is that, I lose the resistance completely, I stop having fears, and I stop having any doubts whatsoever, and therefore I start expressing myself fully authentically. It's appropriate to say that 'thoughts' lose their power over me and suffering disappears as there's no desire left (no me, no self). Because really; fear, resistance, and doubt are all one thing, that is desire, which basically is thought, and which basically is the source of all suffering. So, for those who are wondering about "the truth" and God and so on... There are some really important distinctions here; The authenticity, joy, happiness, self-expression, love, etc... that accompany the higher states do not make them any closer to the truth than the ordinary state, or even the lower states of depression, sadness, suppression, suffering, suicidal thoughts, fear, anger, etc... Simply because all states are the truth. And if they weren't, then seriously, what would they be? The higher states do not make any human being superior to another. In fact, it's been fun to me to watch Leo making a fool of himself claiming to be the most superior to us (while being humble as well), all because he's at some ecstatic state, which ironically was just due to the use of psychedelics, and therefore wasn't permanent. So, that being said, and according to Leo's paradigm, Sadhguru is way more superior than Leo has ever been. Masters like Sadhguru are usually older, which means they are more likely to be more mature with more experience. This is very important, because when immature people like Leo get these higher insights they are more likely to misinterpret them, and eventually end up misusing them and misguiding others. Raising 'your' consciousness is not everything you need for living a good life. That's very simplistic. Leo was basically saying that because he was fully satisfied (from ecstasy). But ecstasy is not a permanent state, it'll go away and he'll come back to reality (I mean the ordinary state), and when he returns, he'll realise how foolish it is to make higher consciousness a goal, because higher consciousness is the natural unfolding of the universe. It just cannot stop and the universe is ever expanding (or so it seems to me). You just need to allow the unfolding to happen, even though it seems like the unfolding won't stop even if you resist it. You just can't stop growing! It's only one life, and one death. And nothing really matters. Fear is an illusion and death is not real (just thoughts). For me, that's the takeaway from Leo's recent video, and everything else is a variation of those insights, or simply a distraction. Psychedelics basically remove 'you' temporarily out of the picture. 'You' in this case is the resistance, desires, thoughts, fears, concerns, etc... In a higher state, you'll still be you, but you'll stop identifying with that same you. You as an ego do not actually disappear. You just stop being self-conscious of yourself. You just stop being able to see yourself as an ego. Simply put, the ego just stops appearing on your radar. We can say that you get an EMP hit to your radars. Other egos stop appearing as well. You simply stop being able to see the ego, because all you're seeing will be God. Leo said that the truth is absolute relativity. And he's right, but he still seems to not be able to see how his own biases are taking over his insights (or maybe he's seeing but ignoring, I don't know!). He said that he does not care because he died, but he apparently still had "preferences". He preferred humanity to be at a more peaceful place, and that's why he 'stooped down' to our level and revealed some helpful insights and instructions for how to live better, which again were biased by his knowledge, research, experiences, morality, etc... This shows that he's at least at stage Green of Spiral Dynamics. That's about it. The resistance to oneself is what creates the duality (two illusory streams going against each other). Without resistance, there's only one stream, God's/devil's stream (it doesn't matter what you call non-duality). That's awakening in the simplest terms. The removal of resistance/self allows for no suffering whatsoever. That's the whole point of awakening. Anything else besides that is an exaggeration and an egoic agenda. I hope that clarifies something to anyone at all. Godspeed!
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Lento replied to arlin's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
From my experience, these kinds of experiences can turn toxic if one is not aware of them. The key point of experiencing them is to make the rational mind aware of its own futility and limits, but that is it. There's nothing to be taught or gained from chasing those experiences besides understanding the limitations of the mind. So, be aware. Healing basically requires going egoic. Socialise more, join some church or charity, work more, avoid solitude, etc... Ultimately, you need to be seeking balance. But for now, some increase in the ego can be good for you. Ground yourself in the body more, exercise more, walk more. In brief, try to do the same things that other "low consciousness" people do and enjoy. Do what the egos do, and you will grow back an ego. Only this time a better, and more aware one. -
Awakening is a state of complete self-expression, without any resistance to oneself whatsoever. There's a lot to say, but I'll try to be brief as much as possible. In the ordinary state; we, humans, tend to be having lots of fears, and therefore resist expressing many of the things we feel and the thoughts we think. In the higher states, however, the best description I find is that, I lose the resistance completely, I stop having fears, and I stop having any doubts whatsoever, and therefore I start expressing myself fully authentically. It's appropriate to say that 'thoughts' lose their power over me and suffering disappears as there's no desire left (no me, no self). Because really; fear, resistance, and doubt are all one thing, that is desire, which basically is thought, and which basically is the source of all suffering. So, for those who are wondering about "the truth" and God and so on... There are some really important distinctions here; The authenticity, joy, happiness, self-expression, love, etc... that accompany the higher states do not make them any closer to the truth than the ordinary state, or even the lower states of depression, sadness, suppression, suffering, suicidal thoughts, fear, anger, etc... Simply because all states are the truth. And if they weren't, then seriously, what would they be? The higher states do not make any human being superior to another. In fact, it's been fun to me to watch Leo making a fool of himself claiming to be the most superior to us (while being humble as well), all because he's at some ecstatic state, which ironically was just due to the use of psychedelics, and therefore wasn't permanent. So, that being said, and according to Leo's paradigm, Sadhguru is way more superior than Leo has ever been. Masters like Sadhguru are usually older, which means they are more likely to be more mature with more experience. This is very important, because when immature people like Leo get these higher insights they are more likely to misinterpret them, and eventually end up misusing them and misguiding others. Raising 'your' consciousness is not everything you need for living a good life. That's very simplistic. Leo was basically saying that because he was fully satisfied (from ecstasy). But ecstasy is not a permanent state, it'll go away and he'll come back to reality (I mean the ordinary state), and when he returns, he'll realise how foolish it is to make higher consciousness a goal, because higher consciousness is the natural unfolding of the universe. It just cannot stop and the universe is ever expanding (or so it seems to me). It's only one life, and one death. And nothing really matters. Fear is an illusion and death is not real (just thoughts). That's the takeaway from Leo's recent video, and everything else is a variation of those insights, or simply a distraction. Psychedelics basically remove 'you' temporarily out of the picture. 'You' in this case is the resistance, desires, thoughts, fears, concerns, etc... In a higher state, you'll still be you, but you'll stop identifying with that same you. You as an ego do not actually disappear. You just stop being self-conscious of yourself. You just stop being able to see yourself as an ego. Simply put, the ego just stops appearing on your radar. We can say that you get an EMP hit to your radars. Other egos stop appearing as well. You simply stop being able to see the ego, because all you're seeing will be God. Leo said that the truth is absolute relativity. And he's right, but he's still isn't seeing how his own biases are taking over his insights (or maybe he's seeing but ignoring, I can't know!). He said that he does not care because he died, but he still had "preferences". He preferred humanity to be at a more peaceful place, and that's why he 'stooped down' to our level and revealed some helpful insights and instructions for how to live better, which again were biased by his knowledge, research, experiences, morality, etc... This shows that he's at least at stage Green of Spiral Dynamics. That's about it. The resistance to oneself is what creates the duality (two illusory streams going against each other). Without resistance, there's only one stream, God's/devil's stream (it doesn't matter what you call non-duality). That's awakening in the simplest terms. The removal of resistance/self allows for no suffering whatsoever. That's the whole point of awakening. Anything else besides that is an exaggeration and an egoic agenda.
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Lento replied to Preety_India's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I, somehow, find it difficult to believe that ? -
Lento replied to Gneh Onebar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Guys! Leo is deluded. He does not understand the relativity of his insights. They're only true to him, but they certainly can become true to you. -
Lento replied to Preety_India's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nothing is necessarily irrelevant to your growth if you know how to look. For example, you telling us that the design is irrelevant to our growth is irrelevant to your growth when viewed from the same perspective (very traditional approach to growth). But there are other ways of viewing things, and reality isn't linear. You can't possibly predict what will grow you the most. You know, this reply may be the thing that will grow you the most if you know how to make use of it ? and at the same time, if you misinterpret it, it may be irrelevant to your growth. Who knows? You may even feel offended from the way I'm talking and may become defensive, and therefore this reply may backfire (I'm not saying you will), just saying. -
It's not possible to get rid of an addiction. "You" simply can't do it. There's no doer, so there's no quitter. It'll run its course whether you like it or not, and then it may spontaneously go away, or may stick with you until the end of your life. However, you can either treat yourself with love throughout it all, or you can hate yourself for being who you are. The choice is yours. Also, you can turn the addiction into an advantage if you're really gifted. Just basically understand that the addiction is not your enemy. It's serving a purpose. Find out what that purpose is, and utilise it.
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Lento replied to Preety_India's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think it doesn't go well with the whole design. It seems innovative/futuristic while the rest of the design seems boring. It's like mixing dos system with Windows 10. -
Tonight was sensational like I never expected. I left work. I've had moments of closure when me and my co-workers shared lovely forgiveness, and hopes of better future for all, and promises to keep in touch. It's interesting how things get synchronised in such a way. Yesterday, I had to let go of my loved one. Now, I'm suffocated with the free time I have. I've created a schedule for tomorrow and a map for the whole scheduling system. The system is very flexible, simple, easy, and yet at the same time very effective, or at least, fulfilling from the first look. I can't wait to see how it'll work in the next few days. I'll update the journal to keep track of it. I keep realising over and over again that there's time for everything. All you need to do is organising your time. Always plan your day one day ahead. Better yet, always plan it on paper and keep checking it. My system mainly includes (order according to priority); Studying. Practices (including journaling). Working out. Researching. The 4 components are spread throughout the day, and they're not supposed to be completed one after the other. Plus, there's time for taking a rest spread throughout the day as well. The details are not supposed to be part of this journal, so I'll just stop right here.
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You guys are stuck in a prison of your own creation. You're still stuck in the mind, trying to find something that cannot be found. You're mistaking the pointer for the moon, and you'll still be doing that until you stop seeking to find an imaginary answer for your imaginary questions. Until then, keep looking, and I'll keep laughing ??
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Lento replied to Adam M's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Mattie You have a good point! -
Consciousness does not exist. It's nothing. It's everything.
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Lento replied to Javfly33's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's really complicated and it's very simple! You don't have to do anything because it doesn't matter. You're free to do whatever you want. If you actually really truly want something, there will be a desire that will move you, the desire will take over and remove you from the picture, you won't be existing at all, and you won't be asking these questions. You're only asking these questions because you are afraid. The fear is manifesting through your questions which are meant to make sure that you (Mr. Ego i.e. imaginary self) won't die. But you can already see how futile that is! This imaginary self is still in control and it needs to die, but it's trying to survive through asking such questions. There's no answer here. You have to die. Of course, don't go suicide, you're smarter than that. -
25 minutes into the video, and I'm completely awake! I didn't need to watch the rest of it, although I will, sometime soon. The way he articulated the things I was contemplating (fear, death, and fear of death) for a while was perfect, and it clicked! There's nothing to be afraid of, literally! Nothing is holding you back but fear. I guess that's what Leo meant when he said that he would change his approach, although I'm not sure, maybe it only clicked for me. The key is to not overthink it. Just realise the obvious fact! The Absolute Truth. Still, Leo has probably used some substance to get there, but in reality there's no there! That's what most people don't understand! Here is there. You're already there, you're just ignoring it. You're just overthinking it. It's overwhelming though, so I can't blame you, lol. It's time to embrace everything fully. Living up to the fullest of every moment is the ultimate priority! Live your life! Have no fear!