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@Nak Khid Thanks, but yeah I read it before I made my previous post

@Virtually I just read the dialogue and watched some of Peter's interview with Leo. What I've gathered here is Leo is trying to further fill his cup in order to become enlightened, when he'd do better trying to empty it. Becoming conducive to enlightenment is more about undoing ignorance, unlearning everything, until all that is left is an availability, a possibility to receive truth, as opposed to adding more layers on top of what you think you already know. I spent huge amounts of time imagining what it might be like to be completely lacking in an ability to know anything, lacking an ability to think, to be completely dumb to the point I didn't even know a language, and therefore couldn't imagine or access memory. This smile dude is legit enlightened and is handing out some good advice.

@Virtually Nothing is a word that symbolises/points to a lack of something. You cannot conceptualise nothing. You can only experience it. If you're going to say distinctions are imaginary then I can say I am imaginary and so are you and render this argument pointless.

@Virtually How can you be conscious of nothing (a lack of anything)?

LOL I like this guy. Once you become nothing, you become infinity. End of story.

Robert Greene is enlightened. He was on Joe Rogan talking about meditation and stuff but he was careful with how he put things, just like Guy Ritchie was when he tried to explain the path to him. Joe, and the majority of the audience, had no idea.

To understand anything you have to use the intellect @Nahm. There is plenty of reasonable philosophical argument for determinism and hardly any for free will. Free will only exists at the God identity level.

@Consept What is acceptable is really just what Leo deems to be acceptable. Maybe Leo's content is increasingly focused on yellow and turquoise, so maybe Leo is more yellow and turquoise, but from what I read of comments there is more orange and green than yellow and turquoise.

The Frenchman schools Morpheus on this. It's a tough one for people.

The emphasis lies in the word "meaning", which is given by the mind. The weird kind OP is describing is mind beginning to come back to and realise itself, but many people, due to confusion, begin to read too much into things, hence me playing them down. Some people (my previous self included) often give meaning to numbers and all kinds of crazy things, and all of a sudden they think every time they see a particular number they are experiencing something divine, which they are, but just not in the way that they believe <3

The design is mind. Spiritual = mental

This forum seems to be a mixture. Leo has attracted a wide variety for an audience due to him covering a wide variety of topics, and that the nature of this forum is self-improvement, which even many people at orange are interested in. I don't rate myself on the spiral anymore, I only use it to sometimes help me understand others.

Say you buy a new car, maybe from that point you will begin to notice more of those cars than before, even though there are the same amount of those cars as before.

I only practised concentration for a few months of my life then I stopped, but my progression continued.

You are doomed to be free sir. You maybe need a shift in perspective for a while. You are essentially a part of God that God created to maybe entertain itself. So go and live, have experiences, give God some good experiences or something, take this life thing for what it's worth and experience whatever it throws at you, see what you learn, and stop whining about it. Or don't.

To transcend the intellect I would recommend first contemplating it and getting an understanding of what it is and what it depends upon to operate. Then afterwards you can better use some techniques to temporarily halt its activity repeatedly until you find what you're looking for, although to maximise your chances of success I would recommend starting with what is often called mindfulness meditation (attempting to create a space between awareness and thoughts)

If you remove all concepts then everything you can possibly perceive becomes one giant thing. We apply concepts to perception to divide it. If you could temporarily remove your ability to access concepts then everything you perceive would become one giant thing. Only that one thing would be nothing if you didn't apply a concept to it. It is concepts that turns perception into something.

"For to fear death, gentlemen, is nothing other than to think oneself wise when one is not, to think one knows what one does not know. For no one knows whether death might not be the greatest of all goods for a human being, but people fear it as if they knew well that it is the greatest of evils" -Socrates You are a soul. A soul is a mind. A mind cannot die, only its avatar dies <3

Contemplation of experience. Try to see that much of what you consider to be perception is actually perception + conception. Try to dissect and understand which part is perception and which conception. Try to understand that you've never experienced anything more than these two things. Contemplation is the most conducive action to understanding. Best wishes.

@Jkris Read all of my posts. I am leaving this forum and won't be discussing any more after this message. Surrendering is you searching for the ultimate truth and aligning with it, rather than searching for power and trying to get truth to align with you.

Hell is the experience of suffering Heaven is the experience of not suffering Selfishness causes hell Selflessness causes heaven Selfishness is identifying as an individual Selflessness is identifying as The One (either nothing, everything or both at the same time) Shed your Individual Identity and there can be no hell

I wouldn't advise to tell anybody unless you feel they will understand what you are talking about. It will only make you feel even more alone. I didn't tell anybody. Actually I tried to tell my Dad but he basically ignored me. Nobody will believe anything you say about it until they see the positive results for themselves (after you complete the journey and they see your transformation). I knew that the people around me could only understand from what they themselves had already learned. I knew telling them would cause them suffering because they could not help me. They would see me as ill, and that would only cause them to suffer. Even many spiritual people call Kundalini nonsense because they know nothing of it. So the average person will surely consider you crazy. It's not their fault. I know it's hard but you have to take responsibility and walk this path alone. You will feel very alone, but you are not <3

@Angelite Submission to God, The story of Abraham, is you shedding your identity and beginning to identity with all, with Allah. This is the path of Truth that Abraham took. The offering of the son is the person offering their identity to Allah. "May Allah take control of my body and live out the rest of my days for me" is a likening to the offering I made, only I used the face of Shiva as my deity (I saw past the face). This is true submission. You cannot submit to Allah and not become Allah. Your sense of identity is Satan, this is what is in the way. All of our selfishness (Satan means selfishness) comes from our sense of individuality. Individuality is selfishness. It has nothing to do with morality. You must kill Satan within you to become truly self-less. Once this is achieved there can be nothing left but Allah. So if you still exist you must be Allah. I am Allah, and so are you. There can be nothing but Allah.

Oh, right, I'm new here. I just assumed that given we are the only ones going back and forth on this page that tagging isn't necessary. Yep, finally something I agree with We are all smart and dumb at the same time <3

Followers of Leo should understand by now that enlightenment is a specific internal experience with an unmistakable before and after. So is Kundalini awakening!!! Most people who talk about Kundalini do not know anything about Kundalini. They so often, knowingly or unknowingly, distort the truth and cause confusion for those actually having this experience. What most are experiencing is something different. People try to force Kundalini with particular actions, but She doesn't like that. If those people only knew how foolish they are. If you have experienced Kundalini awakening and did not become enlightened instantly (if you still suffer from fear) then you will probably have experienced some kind of temporary detachment from your thoughts followed by bliss. You will regularly feel energy travelling the length of your spine. You may, at some stage, begin to be able to feel the area between your eyebrows tingle when you place focus there. This stage may be preceded by temporary dizziness, headaches and nose bleeds. This is the beginning of one process to becoming enlightened. If you fail to become enlightened at some point after awakening Kundalini you will eventually become insane. These are the two possibilities when you dance with the serpent. If there was no risk there could be no reward. How to avoid becoming insane: Trust the process. Do not allow your mind to convince you that there is something wrong with you. Instead focus on the fact that there is something wrong with almost everybody else. Do not allow others, especially western doctors or psychologists who ignore philosophy, to define you. These people tend to have little to no awareness of their own ignorance. Everything they think they know is based on assumption and faith, yet they parade as if they are the most rational ones. Such fools are a danger to the innocent. They have power but lack wisdom. They will likely try to sell you drugs that hinder the spiritual process. You must trust Kundalini above yourself and above everybody else, for She is the guru of gurus. Know that She is deceptive, and She will lead you to suffering. You must learn to embrace Her even while you resist. If you embrace this process you may experience the highest high followed by the lowest low. The true gift is not in the high but in the low that follows. The suffering that Kundalini will bring about for you is the great gift. Kundalini wants you to give up everything, but you will likely begin with no idea how to actually give up. So make giving up your goal. If you can't do that then make setting the goal of giving up your back up plan for when things go wrong. You will probably only set this goal after you begin to tire of suffering. This is precisely why you must suffer. Everything is born out of its opposite. The goal of the mystic is to truly live, therefore the mystic must experience internal death (while remaining physically alive). Life is like a horse race. Only the ones who fall behind will give up and climb off the horse. Kundalini will eventually make your horse slow down. She can get away with things that few human gurus ever could. This is why Kundalini is the greatest guru. She answers to nobody. She cannot be killed or arrested for doing what truly needs to be done. She does not suffer consequences. She will force you to suffer and your suffering will bring her great delight, because she knows suffering is sacred. If you want a nice teacher do not call to her. If you want an effective guru then call to her with humility. But what do I know? I'm just an untrained eclectic without a live teacher, a nobody. I do not have approval from those who have approval, nor do I care for it. Many people of great discipline would not respect me. Many of them would beat me with a stick. So use your own discernment.