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What's your day-to-day diet like? Like for 80-90% of the times, what do you eat? I try to lose weight while building muscle and here's what I eat: protein pancakes (protein powder, banana, egg) chicken breast + rice / buckwheat eggs cottage cheese tuna salad some fruit That's it basically. 1900-2000 calories and 160g protein. And on the weekends I might switch and bring in some variety, but still stay in these caloric range. What about you?

Of course, kids get hooked onto that shit in their early 10s. By the time they are in their late teens or early 20s, porn already did the damage.

Because it's true. But that conflicts with self-agenda, because whatever is true, might not be okay with you. That's where spirituality comes into play.

Depends, what do you want out of your life? What are your prioritites at the moment? How aligned is your life to your highest values? What are your highest values anyways? You can't use somebody else's experience as a template, depends on where you are in life.

Like what assumptions specifically for "porn addiction" case?

@Basman Have you ever been addicted (okay, used compulsively) to porn? Because it can get much much worse than your 7-8h/day gaming thing. Nofap community has some silly idological side as well, but you can't just assume all those people doesn't really have an issue and are bullshiting. Millions of people are going through some really hard times because of porn induced issues and are desparate for help. It's no way the same thing as compulsive gaming. Not in the same ballpark. Not to mention the struggle that some of the spouses / partners go through when their partner has compulsive porn habits. https://www.reddit.com/r/loveafterporn/ Just read some posts here. You'll get some idea of what I'm referring to.

Yes, from personal experience, this can get real bad. Not to mention the shame and guilt that comes with it. There's higher awareness on this issue in culture today than it was 10-15 years ago. But I think more and more young guys are suffering with same issues, but they can't talk about it because it's a taboo. Mostly they get a wake up call when they are with a partner and can't perform. That's a turning point for most men, but even then, it's not that easy to get rid of it.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/addiction This was literally my experience with over-consuming porn and compulsive masturbation to it. This is why I call it an addiction. Based on an experience, not based on a medical board definition.

Yes, even less then that, daily consumption not only makes you less functional, it tends to skew your perceptions a lot. You get desensitized to what you see on the screen (and I don't just mean vanilla erotica stuff, most people develop tendencies to go into some real hardcore shit because vanilla isn't enough anymore) and as a result real life becomes less exciting / dissapointing, which makes intimacy with a partner much harder. That's why I'm calling that an addiction and not something else. When you have that problem in your life and call it an addiction, that comes with a responsibility and recognition that yeah, this is not right, I need to fix it. When you don't recognize it as addiction, you might bullshit yourself that it's normal. Again, I'm talking about overconsumption, if some people goon occasionally and live a happy healthy life, that's fine I guess. No moralizing here.

How would you define an addiction? What is an addiction?

That's what 95% people told me, I think it's just a common way of expressing condolences. But my questioning mind was like, "how the fuck can you know that?", so it doesn't affect me much. I saw it as their attempt to make me feel better so it was okay.

One of my close friends lost mother very unexpectedly due to a doctors misdiagnose, she was 49 years old and feeling well mostly, and all of a sudden she felt bed, they bought her to clinic and doctors mistreated her and she died in 2 days (this weekend). My friend is in shock, I don't even know what to say to her, she was very close to her mom. I also lost my dad 2 years ago the same way, he was well and strong and in 10 minutes he was dead (due to brain aneurysm). And I know how painful it is, especially after the initial shock wears off, and she returns to her daily life, it will be very hard. And I want to help but not sure how. So, what would you say to someone in that position? How would you ease her pain?

Something like this I guess

I don't think so, if we actually had a statistics on that, I'd expect no significant change, maybe even rise in rape, who knows. Sexual need is insatiable. It's not like rapist watches porn and he's satisfied.

From my experience, you only realize those shifts happened after months of abstinence. It just strucks you after couple months.

He started with shrooms.

@Clarence Yeah I don't know about that, she isn't into those sorts of things. Actually, I was thinking something limilar when my dad passed away. Before he died, I was into out of body experiences, was researching a lot into that field, but I didn't have much practice. During my research, I've stumbled on a lot of reports of travelers meeting their deceased relatives, and after my dad died, that possibility left a hope in me that one day there was a chance of meeting him again. That might be delusional, but I think there's something to it. Can't know for sure till I actually try it. Same with the medium.

@Basman Lets not split hairs about the terminology. The fact is that you can get so used to using it, you can overdo it and experience negative side effects (weak or no erections, low libido, requiring more intense content to get off, objectifying women in an unhealthy way, guilt, unable to maintain proper intimacy with a girl, etc), then you decide to quit and find yourself in a craving and relapsing cycles. That's classic addiction to me. It can have psychological roots but also deep physiological dependency as well.

Once I water faster for 5 days, I was hungry and dizzy all the time. Hunger didn't go for me. I don't know, maybe you are more sensitive then me.

Yes that could destroy your life. But over-consuming porn and masturbating compulsively (not out of horniness), can also destroy your potential. It's simple really, I don't get where the disagreement is. We're talking about excessive uses of something potentially useful when used occasionaly. But occasional porn use can lead to addiction, as well as occasional gaming can lead to addiction, doesn't mean it should, but it does for many people.

Gaming for 1k+ hours doesn't cause erectile disfunction and intimacy issues.

@something_else Overconsumption causes issues, not moderate usage. I suspect you don't have overconsumption issues, so you haven't experienced anything related to that. If you watch porn and masturbate way more than what's considered healthy, you'll see what we are referring to. But I agree, it's a problem with self-control, but it's harder to control yourself when you are a teenager, and once you get hooked on it, it's hard to get unhooked.

For me quitting social media was like 100x easier than quitting porn. But it's a huge problem in society I'd agree. People are mindlessly scrolling through slop 5+ hours a day. Such a waste. When it comes to porn, the downside isn't the wasted time per se, it's all the side-effects that come with seeking constant dopamine pleasures day in day out. I'd guess it won't be that bad if you do it once every one or two weeks.

I think nobody argues that. If you have a healthy and balanced relationship with porn and also your partner is okay with that, enjoy I eat junk food and drink alkohol every once in a while, maybe on some social gathering and I enjoy that. It's that I can't do that with porn. I know it's not porn's fault, it's mine, but that doesn't mean that it's not hijacking my reward cycles and chemically messing up some shit.