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8 hours ago, Ampresus said:@MAYA EL Nice man. You just called me a beta male without actually answering my question. If you can’t relate at all, why bother answering to my topic?
Seriously what am I supposed to do with what you just said?
Well I have obtained what you want which is not Desiring power so then because I have something you don't have and it's also something you want perhaps you should take a look at the mentality and the circumstance as key factors as to maybe why I have something you don't have . For instance I think your mindset is a very dangerous mindset to have and quite evil one at that probably due to some Neurosis growing up and so you can see how the desired mentality that you want views the mentality that you have as undesirable so then with confidence you can know that there's not a part of it you should keep
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7 hours ago, Alex bliss said:@MAYA EL did I ever said that enlightenment is a path...When you try to answer a question here spent some time before you get caught up with your know it all egoic thoughts..don't be blind ...this wouldn't lead you anywhere...you're not dealing with a newbie anywhere!!
Listen boy if you don't want people's opinion don't ask people questions and drop the ego I wasn't trying to flex on you I was giving you my experience like your post asked for now sit down
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5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:It doesn't really matter what you are told about the facet because when you realize it, it will strike you out of the blue. It will still be a total shock. No words can prepare you for how radical it is.
Only in hindsight will you realize: "Oh! So that's what Leo was talking about!"
Unless I am misunderstanding what y'all are calling a facet it absolutely does matter what your told about it matter of fact not only does it matter what you're told about something even if you Glimpse at it visually and are unaware of the fact you saw a glimpse of something it still affects your experience down the road
this is a proven fact businesses use this on people all the time a good example would be commercials everybody hates commercials they're annoying you don't like the product they're trying to sell yet they're all really crappy commercials you would think if they wanted to sell their products you would enjoy the commercial but you don't well sorry to tell you but the commercial is doing something different than what it appears to be doing so why you don't like the commercial because it appears to be annoying you're still buying certain products without thinking about it or making certain decisions that you think are your own but you are actually manipulated in one way or another and this is because the subconscious mind is extremely malleable
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3 hours ago, aklacor727 said:Out of all of leo's content, one of the hardest pills for me to swallow was his insight from the radical implications of oneness video where he goes into talking about how you have and will experience being every one and everything...aka I will have the experience of being a murderer, rapist, pedophile, etc, every perspective possible... definitely had resistance hearing that and kind of put it to the back of my mind for a while. Over time as I've kept growing and deepening my understanding of oneness, when I come across people that I notice are very different than me, I remember that video and I start envisioning myself being them, and really feel what it would feel like to be them and see life through their eyes. Then remember that I am actually them ? It's odd to think about. My spiritual progress has been kind of slow, but slowly as I allow myself to accept things like this in my present experience it has really increased my empathy and ability to love and accept all beings. I even do this now with animals, I can't even really help it. The other day I caught a mouse in a catch and release trap and I felt like what it should be like to be stuck in there, when I released him into a field I pictured myself being that mouse running off being relieved to be free but also scared about being alone out there and away from its family now. I feel like a dork admitting this lol
Anyway, just one way ive found myself integrating and remembering some of the things Leo's taught into my every day life. Anything you guys find yourselves doing? What would you say is one of the main points of Leo's teachings that you've found yourself resisting most?
Because this "all is one" is crap
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On 10/1/2019 at 9:18 AM, Ampresus said:Hello everyone.
Do you ever wish you were some kind of almighty being? Some emperor or king? Or in general, a very influential person?
I sometimes wish people looked up to me, that it would mean a lot for other people to get my attention/validation/approval. Having me as a friend would be someting people would brag about. Whenever I am fighting or arguing with someone, people would know the consequences of arguing with me. People would know the consequences of ''fucking'' with me (both online and IRL).
Truth is: I hold 0 power. My question is then: what would be a self-actualized way to deal with this urge? Chase it and see where it leads me? I am actually clueless.No actually I don't ever desire that. I prefer to stay in the shadows... but then again I'm the guy people don't fuck with in person because they know better. My guess is that your a beta male that wants to be an alpha male but you don't understand what being an alpha male is and your temperature and actually your mentality is quite dangerous because you will justify horrific Acts just for the simplest and most worthless gratifications
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Enlightenment is not a path its a realization of pathless emptying of oneself
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12 hours ago, Mezanti said:quitting all personal development based content as well.
actualized.org has told me truth, but i must now discover it on my own.
Its been a good ride, but its too much mental masturbation and too little action.
I would have nothing wrong with once a week being reminded of the higher picture of what's going on, but that's not the case here, im literally watching Leo on a day to day basis, being spoon-fed all this amazing stuff, and i didn't develop the work ethic nor the attentiveness to acquire this knowledge on my own. The way it currently stands, i can't read a book properly without just going online and looking up a summary for it cuz i don't want to go through the process of reading it.
I fundamentally haven't seen Leos theory play out in real life, i do however understand it logically.
I hope you can see the blunder im making.. so im gonna stop it dead in its tracks. and quit cold turkey.
ill be coming back once i acquire an awakening or two and once i get my personal life handled. (fitness, work ethic, school, dating)
Leo you fucking god, i can't wait to come back in a years time and binge watch all your videos.
Good for you it's the best decision you've made yet in your walk in my opinion. The lone way is the best way
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I was sheltered and kept away from the school system just think how weird this world is to me
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A young bird doesn't clame to be one with its egg or one with the mother bird nether does it act like it is one with its mother bird instead it leaves the nest and trying as best it can it becomes it's own bird separate and singular and remains that way.
Wondering or worrying about being one in the same with where it came from is not only pointless but would hinder it's growth and possibly shorten its life spand because it is not of any fundamental importance nor was it born to realize it was one with its mother because it was born with the sole purpose of being different than its mother and so it is.
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On 10/2/2019 at 0:50 PM, Scholar said:I find myself getting more and more alienated from a lot of the spiritual concepts that I have been ingrained with in the past few years. The more I do this work, the less I find these concepts to be truthful and attractive.
For example, these concepts do not make sense to me anymore:
- Mind
- Consciousness
- Imagination
- Meditation
- Subjectivity
- Enlightenment
- Increasing Consciousness
- Unconditional Love
- "In silence you will find Truth"
- Strong determination sitting
- Liberation
- Ego
- Truth
- Absolute
A lot of the language Leo is using does not resonate with me anymore, and I actually loved it not that long ago. Actually I find that a lot of spiritual talking to me is kind of weirdly delusional. It feels pretentious, it feels sheepish. It feels so uncreative and stale. When I listen to Alan Watts for example I feel like there is this playfulness which lacks in a lot of other teachings.
I have a desire to explore celebration, activity, swimming, whirling, playing (in the metaphysical sense, not hobbies). I would love to see some Viking ceremonies, or some Shamanic dances. An embrace of fluidity and playfulness. I want magicalness, I want wonder and awe. There is a sense of fairytale-ness.
I think I want Groundlessness. I want movement that is motionless, not motionless movement. I want Joke, Play instead of Truth, Absolute.
Maybe all this feels like restriction and I find myself to embrace freedom. Instead of "Sit down and meditate" I see results in "Listen to music and contemplate until contemplation falls apart". Results in Flow rather than Stillness. Expanding into Being, giving being Presence instead of observation, seeing truth, etc.
There is this sense of ridiculousness coming, a Trickster who laughs at the seriousness of Zen Monks, who laughs at the concepts of Leo, who laughs at itself. I don't know how else to describe it, it does not seem egoic, it does not seem attached or survivalistic. Rather it feels the opposite of that. It's like it cannot denie magic, and thus it cannot take any of this too seriously. It also has a sense of Love and Acceptance. It seeks active compassion, it seeks art and creativity.
Previously when I looked at "enlightenment" I saw darkness, I saw stillness, I saw detachment. "Nothingness". Now it looks colorful, it looks impossible, it looks like a fairy-tale. It feels tumultuous, waves of endless color and feeling crashing against each other. It feels like a huge orchestra of magic, it feels like taking you by the hand and swirling you around. It is laughing, it is crying, it is alive.
It looks at Leo's castle of non-duality and wants to swoop it away with a tsunami of creativity and playfulness. This is the path that I see, and I think Leo's talk of Love has helped me see it more clearly. But I feel like Leo got there in a different way, the path he took does not seem to be the path that seems attractive to me, but I think the change in direction he has taen is what I really like.
But the foundation upon which his castle is build feels serious, and despite him putting the cream of Love and passion on top of it now, the foundation seems to still remain, if that makes sense?
I will obviously still find use in all of the content Leo produces, but I don't know if I can be a "follower" anymore, in the sense that I don't know if I don't want to create my own path, using Leo's videos as an addition instead of a main diet. I don't want any diet that comes from someone else anymore. I want to create my own diet. I want to explore myself even if I am not utterly successful. This very attitude of being so serious about this pathway seem unattractive to me. It seems to suck the joy and curiousity out of this path. I want to feel fairytale-ness, magic, compassion, playfulness not "industrial grade enlightenment practice".
Does anyone know what I mean? To me it feels like there is a very ingrained bias of a certain way of looking at all this that is very present in the general culture of spiritualism. This bias seems to become more and more apparent to me, and I start seeing it everywhere. I want to explore a different perspective, or rather what I have explored does not seem entirely compatible with this current bias.
Have you found that "thing" that there aren't words for yet? That you can't talk about or even talk around? That you want to tell people about but you have no way of telling anyone about it?
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On 8/28/2019 at 3:58 AM, Nemo28 said:The greatest mystery for me is the question of why do i experience life from my particular point of view. Is it not that awareness is not located anywhere and all inclusive, why it seems to be attached to my persona? It is said that whatever you look at you are that. If I look at dog and myself there is obvious difference in experience. I can never experience dog from its point of view, why is that if I am universal consciousness? I am well aware of eternal present moment and just beeing here and now, but still the question of "why am i me?" I can not answer, is there even such answer or just mystery? Thank you!
Because non-duality is crap
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4 hours ago, VeganAwake said:@MAYA EL I see what you are saying. Do you think it's possible that because thousands of people have had similar experiences, people that did not know each other and in different parts of the world, without prior knowledge that there could be something to this realization.
This resonated with me because when I experienced the dropping away of the false self(no self), I realized I was nothing and simultaneously everything all along, under the illusion of a separate limited self. The realization that the boundaries of Duality were a fiction, a trick played on myself. It's like our own mind keeps us locked in a prison to stay safe. When one becomes awake they have jailbroken their mind and there Consciousness shines through their masks, the illusions of Duality crumble away.
I like your big picture thinking ..You are right to be skeptical. Thank you for replying and as always I'm here to help with anything. Let your heart guide you.
Have a good day my friend!!
2 hours ago, VeganAwake said:@MAYA EL I see what you are saying. Do you think it's possible that because thousands of people have had similar experiences, people that did not know each other and in different parts of the world, without prior knowledge that there could be something to this realization.
This resonated with me because when I experienced the dropping away of the false self(no self), I realized I was nothing and simultaneously everything all along, under the illusion of a separate limited self. The realization that the boundaries of Duality were a fiction, a trick played on myself. It's like our own mind keeps us locked in a prison to stay safe. When one becomes awake they have jailbroken their mind and there Consciousness shines through their masks, the illusions of Duality crumble away.
I like your big picture thinking ..You are right to be skeptical. Thank you for replying and as always I'm here to help with anything. Let your heart guide you.
Have a good day my friend!!
On the contrary as Manny P hall would say "it is most definitely not true if everybody's doing it"
With mankind being in a mental falling state we cannot trust that what man finds and experiences to be accurate especially not any concepts that have been passed down through of time..
I have experienced it as well but I've experienced more also I do not talk about my experiences in my life because I don't want to sound like I'm trying to show off or get pity from anybody and I don't want any attention
the only contact I have with people about this kind of topic is every now and then on the internet
but with that said my position is not because of ignorance to the experience.
I've been observing how subliminal planting works and also how infestations occur through the spirit Realm and I can see the patterns clearly. See what happens is somebody the new how to create a spiritual entity a concept that has a body so to speak
And this thing goes out to whomever that person speaks to about the subject that the entity embodies and so the person receives it as truth then they will experience it and the entity doubles in power and this keeps happening up until the point where so many people have experienced it and agree upon it but it has gained enough power to break past delimitation of a person's speech and so it can attach itself to somebody that has never heard the concept and if the person soul is unprotected enough and they happen to be in a situation that utilizes that concept then it can manifest and catch the person completely off guard and to the person they cannot tell the difference between but they just experienced and a real experience not made by man and so if that person accepts it then it has so much power to manifest that
Well here we are today.
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No it is different for every person.
Try not to be so self-centered as to think that when you have an idea that it is the correct idea for every human being
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5 hours ago, VeganAwake said:Everything you see, feel, touch, hear or think comes from and manifests in pure Consciousness. Time and space emerge from pure consciousness. Your body and that of millions of other human beings, as well as trees, animals, rivers originate from and appear in this pure consciousness. When you understand that all that exists is the manifestation of a single substratum, Being, there is no more conflict. You are that pure consciousness; it is your true nature. You are that!
You are the ocean. All the waves, whether gentle or rough surf, are a product of the ocean. It will never be otherwise. You are the ocean, not the waves. The waves come and go; the ocean is unchangeable.
Pure consciousness is what you are. Recognize who you are and live your life in peace. There is nothing else to do. There is no learning curve, there are no challenges to master, no problems to resolve. Just BE.
The ego always needs a challenge to prove that it is competent, that it is better than it was yesterday and that it is making progress. It wants to be better than the others so as not to feel unworthy. It creates a future and spends its life trying to live that future. Beyond the ego, which is based on duality, there is your Self, the oneness in which all is manifested. Pure consciousness is not divided into either two or a hundred parts. There is no division; there only is the One eternally undivided.
This truth cannot be understood with the mental, because it is beyond the mental. Only your consciousness can apprehend this truth.
Try discovering something for yourself instead of regurgitating what everybody else is saying. We do not come from one pure consciousness I'm not going to give you the answer because that would make me no different than everybody else but i am just bringing it to your awareness and don't think that all of existence came from something as limited as one pure consciousness because that was just a concept one person came up with and told one more person and it has spread like wildfire.
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Because if you're famous and the world is aware of you those thoughts that they think about you get projected towards you and so the majority spiritual Force becomes the governing factor in your life there for shaping your reality this can be seen with things like gurus 20 years later getting caught in some Scandal because apparently they can't control their penis after 30 years of taking people's money and teaching them how to meditate saying that they can get rid of Desire when they're actually f'ing the guys wife without him knowing.
Or as the saying goes that leaders are corrupt because the people are corrupt. same thing
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8 hours ago, Aerial said:He gives the answer so succinctly in the video. So it won't be a waste of your time. Also, this guy's like one of the most advanced people on this forum @MAYA EL but you choose to literally judge the cover
Judging a book by it's cover? Well for one that's not you're saying so please don't copy what you always here. And 2 I was trying to strike conversation with the poster because this form is not a share links and don't talk Forum it's a talk forum and then possibly share links with the amount of spammers that post worthless crap I was not about to waste my time because for all I know the video was as long as a 7 Bomar video.
And by saying he's one of the most advanced posters on this form that is a very childish thing and implies that there's levels and things you obtaining game when it's quite the opposite.
But I understand if you said it from a conversational standpoint to get a point across.
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7 hours ago, Hansu said:Sounds cool! Did you build awareness without really trying, or was mindfulness practice a part of your martial arts school?
I practiced Hapkido for 1 year before my back pains came back, but it takes a looong time before the breath work etc come into the practice in that art
We practiced alot .... including body hardening and I'm not sure how much the body hardening helped if it even helped at all but it did alow you to block pain to an extremely high amount unfortunately body hardening training is brutal I did 3x a week for 45 minutes and usually threw up once possibly dry heaved two or three more times after that each session x3 a week.
And I didn't notice one thing that I haven't seen anybody discuss about human body that is how the body's ability to bruise can change what I mean by that is usually whatever amount of impact will leave in a nice purple bruise on you well if you do about a year or two of body hardening and then receive that same impact you won't even see a change in color to your skin matter fact after several years you'll lose the ability to bruise unless something's broken I find that very very odd I did not expect to experience that.
But I also didn't expect when I stopped body hardening that all the nerves after about six months started to regenerate and so I would get sharp shooting pains at random making me do things like drop my phone or limp or fall out the car and we're quite common for about 2 years
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On 10/1/2019 at 7:33 AM, Truth Addict said:Perhaps it's something you would do, Mr. ego.
No actually my comment came from psychology and how we usually Express opposites from truth. For instance "I love everybody I can find the way to love I can show you how to get there"
What that gurus mindset truly is is
"I don't have love I can't really find love hopefully I can YouTube to find love"
And this is just an example I'm not pointing to anybody specifically just merely giving an example on how the human mind works.
And remember the ego is you it's not a separate thing if you actually killed your ego you would have less personality than a house cat and you wouldn't be what we call human
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9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:This is getting into comic book villainy:
A tip you should probably ignore politics if you want people to perceive you as being very enlightened because those who are truly connected to the god mind realize that the things like the media are lies used for entertainment and manipulation and crowd control/Tech and that if this country actually had one person that was the "boss" they not only wouldn't be on TV so everybody could know who they are but they wouldn't be telling the nation what they're doing to and the problems they're dealing with nor would the media be allowed to talk about it just like you have no idea what the CEO of a large company is doing likewise we have no idea what the actual people that run America are doing and it's childish to think that we can find out what's going on by looking on the TV
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1 hour ago, Pacific Sage said:Mystical experiences are as real as your ability to manipulate Adrenaline and I am telling this to you out of my personal experience, hope you can relate to my position as I am aware from your adrenaline experience that its tough to put this point across.
Try psychedelics (magic mushrooms), am sure you will be mind blown
. Its an amazing experience and will put life in perspective
Lol psychedelics are for kids doesn't
I can achieve more without them .
That and I am past the point of wanting/ desireing an experience and could care less at this point to have anymore for a good long while. I probably would make Terence McKenna look like a greenhorn in comparison if we were to count experiences and I'm not saying that to brag not at all .
What's ironic is I have probably had so many experiences because I didn't want or care for them and so life gave me what I didn't want while making me work for the things I did want lol i think we can all agree that life has an ironic sense of humor.
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1 hour ago, Pacific Sage said:Mystical experiences are as real as your ability to manipulate Adrenaline and I am telling this to you out of my personal experience, hope you can relate to my position as I am aware from your adrenaline experience that its tough to put this point across.
Try psychedelics (magic mushrooms), am sure you will be mind blown
. Its an amazing experience and will put life in perspective.
I believe you. I have personally tried wim hof for three years+ and I know for a fact it works and I can only hope for you to believe that mystical experiences are real.
Could you kindly go more into this and explain further what you are talking about?
Has your experience led you else where to a place you didnt want to be?
Doesn't Cyclops have both eyes and only two eyes, am sorry, I might have got the reference wrong but all X-men Cyclops I have come across have only two eyes.
But Marvel is all fiction and is not direct experience, You can first hand experience sensation between your brows if you try Kriya Yoga. But that doesn't lead to any magical insight to the world, as far as I see it, its just another passing sensation. Most insights about the world come through contemplation.
Cyclopes (singular: Cyclops), one-eyed giants in Greek mythology, including Polyphemus. They had a single eye in the centre of their forehead.
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19 hours ago, VeganAwake said:@MAYA EL I understand... I'm here to help wake up humanity. You can private message me anytime if you ever want to talk or need assistance with anything related.
Thank you!!
Why do you think they need waking up? And what makes you think you are awake and can help them wake up?. I remember when I get martial arts it was fairly well known that the master is the person that has mastered every aspect of the martial arts and can perform every move perfectly and because of this they are qualified to teach and if you are not at this level you can still teach but under the supervision of the master because you may accidentally teach some part of the move wrong to a student and not know that you did it wrong and then that student not know and then 200 years from now we have a terribly flawed martial arts and so it has to be done under the supervision until it has been perfected.
And as far as I know no person has perfected life no person is even made it to the finish line and then come back to tell us what it was like. At best everybody's assuming.
Now I'm not trying to be a dick I'm just bringing it up to see if you thought about it
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1 hour ago, Pacific Sage said:@MAYA EL Spinal breathing is slow and long so there is no excess oxygen or decrease in Co2 from what I can analyse with long breaths, you need rapid breathing to pump in a lot of oxygen to eliminate CO2 and cause hyperventilation, hows it possible with slow long breaths where the body has sufficient time to process all oxygen and maintain CO2.
Slow long breaths lead to heart rate variability which can have profound changes in consciousness states.
Coming to the third eye, I think it is a different perception of the same reality once third eye is stimulated, similar to the - glass half full or half empty or full but the perception perceived in reference to altered state of consciousness is not completely describable in words unless you experience it.
@SriBhagwanYogi Sounds like an amazing experience
If slow breathing is being implemented then yes you are right they are not hyperventilating however it is completely rumored that any breathing technique activates your body's ability to create DMT or the activation of your pineal gland the only thing it activates (as of right now metaphysically speaking) is your imagination.
Now you can activate certain things in your body with just your mind for instance for several years I've been able to activate my adrenaline without doing anything physical such as moving my body fast or breathing heavy but I can release adrenaline and have my heart rate Spike on a heart rate monitor as well as increase my body temperature to where my skin is not even cold to the touch in temperatures below 30 degrees F . Now I do not say that to brag by any means matter fact I usually don't like talking about it because people always ask me questions but I bring it up just so people will know that I'm not taking my stance on the subject out of disbelief in ignorance the quite the opposite it is out of experience. And in my experience I found that experience is something that feeds the imagination and builds up a form of metaphysical immaturity in the sense that we often get captivated into this Alice in Wonderland of experiences that we cannot tell apart from truth.
As for the third eye
a good example of how people take Concepts and misunderstand them and run with them would be the cyclops you know Disney Marvel creature with the one eye in the center of his head it's used in cartoons X-Men Old Norse mythology type of stuff well the original explanation for this creature was that it was a creature that you could not hide anything from it could see everything and it didn't have to turn its head to see behind it you couldn't sneak up on it it was impossible it's like it was focused it looking at everything at all times and so with language and especially with writing we have to assign symbols in order to communicate and I guess the best idea they could come up with was well if it sees everything it's got one big eye that sees everything and so it went from an aura type thing around its head to a huge eye in the center of its head
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Video looks worthless so I didn't want to waste my time on it . Where do you stand on the subject do you think it's real or Illusion?
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