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well the problem is that the health system can’t work on the same base as other economy - trade and such exists, we won’t be able to do without it, how should that go. what i actually wanted to write is „hyper capitalistic“ but then i realized, no, health must actually work without that or be freed as much of it as possible - because of a doctor or a nurse is expected to work under horrific circumstances without thinking in the orange field - they should also not have to think about where they get the material for treatment from.

like the effortlessness of a 4 o‘clock morning meditation? or the effortlessness of one actualized.org video?

maybe @lmfao has something to say to this? @Lento seems to have jumped on a critique train stemming of this thread - while the critique was not even thoroughly researched. in a thread that wanted to talk about abuse in the forum. i guess lento is fast to jump in for everyone, which is pretty cool on one hand, but really bad if it’s about some made up problematic regarding ideologies - which make real nonduality wars. it‘s not good or bad in the sense of good and evil - it’s just carrying on the devilry which was supposed to stop there. this is just an observation - maybe if talked through could change something about the situation. but its in a sense right, its ok to critique some things, but stirring up the whole forum and questioning leo while he’s on a retreat... seems somehow like something rather low spiritual. without any grudge - because lento and me had a talk out, i did not take it as something against me that he stood up for martin123. (just to avoid any ideas or interpretation about my intention of this post - in the end he is responsible for what he’s posting himself - its just sad that it seems like it happened because of a maybe even unintended stirr up) although i sometimes question the reasoning, too, if critique gets stronger punishment than abuse - it actually doesn’t matter how people are reasoning... the outcome somehow does not compute with the equation.

at least for the next years to come - if the health systems were not weakened through corruption and capitalistic goals of big pharma so much, there would be no economic crisis but a crisis plan instead. i don’t think any country would want to reexperience what’s happening now in the next ten to twenty years - so there will be probably a lot of aftereffect. with factory farming and rising antibiotic resistant bacteria, this whole topic is far from being off the table with viruses alone.

people in italy dying because there are not enough places for intensive care - they don’t have enough respirators. it‘s not insignificant they have to make decisions like in war situations. the virus itself might not be that serious in sense of having one person to treat - it’s serious because people don’t take it serious enough.

what do you think you would need your body to do to get aligned with your awakening? if you already somehow are in an awakened awareness. it is ok to start with orange here - inhabiting the body also means first owning yourself. how do you treat yourself - how much do you allow your limbs to move? how often do you allow the blood running through your veins with a heightened oxigen uptake. wim hoff for example is really good to grasp a little bit of that but aside from that finding your favorite kind of sports is one of the keys to inhabit the body. can be even dancing - but finger skateboarding does not really count as sports.

no not only - but a lot of wanting and willing and also impulsive emotions rise from there to the head as energy because its also connected to instincts. emotions like anger arise from there. i would not describe it in any ways i would say try to explore it deeper in these aspects.

you probably wanted to say: the solar plexus is pandora’s box does not have a lot to do with thinking. its one of the more complex parts of the whole system. of course it has an intelligence, like other chakras also have quite their own intelligence, and like your mind you can train it - but not without training the third eye. so calling it the thinking box is either an ego mechanism which keeps you from clear view, or an attempt to trigger interest. the over emphasis on solarplexus is exactly what’s making up a lot of contemporary times problems. in a sense it’s by far usually not trained enough to be compared to the upper chakras. we use to give mind stuff much too much importance that’s why we call that area then a thinking entity instead of calling the third eye our emotional/sensual filter.

a little bit, i read a book which was about how special collective moments create divergent behavior in random generators. so collective emotions are actually measurable. and if they are measurable they are probably also sensable. i had this once with feeling fear of the past at a place. some places speak of weird past - but you can also sense something coming up sometimes like a preview of the big unknown. we never had to really handle situations like this. there might be a bit more fear in the air than what the next day might bring.

@unicity just checked, too high a vit-d dose will lead to vit-d intoxication and can also lead to kidney stones. i would be careful with that then. it’s like with the vit-c, too much is counterproductive. general advice is 100 microgram is a tolerable dose per day, its 4000 iu. of course at the beginning it’s possible to take more but its not recommended daily in a high dose for a longer period of time.

i guess that would go as orange independent of any time string in probably any country, don’t tell me that could be interpreted as green...

relative to a historical development, it is also about time. we would need to assume that time would exist as a linear aspect of reality, which it does not. true relativity would only be measurable in spiral colours then. but bringing in cultural development also brings in historically important events and consciousness leaps, or spiral backlashes.

@Lento yes, that’s what i’ll do from this onward. i did not ask for submission nor am i submitting. i understand that he was hurt, he also explained what’s happening to him. i won’t start talking about my own heartbeat to not further complicate the situation, although in a sense i’m even thankful he brought the whole topic up in a more holistic sense than how people meet alone. i hope he can find some rest with that.

@Lento it was a question for peace to him - he can answer or not, i don’t think anyone else can do that for him. that’s what respect means. respect is a form of love, just not the all accepting one. if he wants to answer to that or not is his own choice. i just wanted to convey that to him. no harm intended.

to then get stabbed in the next moment, no thanks. i’ll try to respect him.

@Lento so this is ok then to lash out against me? i was addressed in the thread, trying to talk it out with him either he accepts that or not. i’m sure he would probably calm down more if he would understand that i did not mean to harm him. if it’s without intention he might understand that we both came from different directions and we both are people who swing swords if we encounter a fight. all i’m asking is to stop the fight now because here is no one who wants to do harm intentionally. this is not an apology, it’s a question for peace.

@Martin123 i see now how you have already been affected when you were posting in that thread where we collided, it was not my intention to play into this. non the less i would also like to ask you to be less harsh now to others. not everyone who goes into conflict with your healing being is a perpetrator. maybe you could accept that it’s not only your intention to heal but everyone’s intention to heal. i tried to show you that you lock yourself out from others if you constantly lock them out - this was not to be mean, it was because you use it as a threat. for me this was not much hurting, because i don’t know you, still it is very trumpish and unreflected. so how would it hurt your friends i wonder. you seem like a person swinging a sword, but you don’t make a difference anymore, you swing the sword against everyone who approaches you. its time to stop with that now. respect is something bilateral, don’t expect to get it if you lash out against everyone. try to see that help is an attempt with a good intention. if so many people want to help maybe there is a reason you have not become yet aware of. if someone offers help, most people are rather thankful even if they decline - imagine you wouldn’t get any help at all. calm that rage now, if you swing a sword against everyone someone finally will silence you.

maybe you should just say rock it and then try to detach.

in that sense maybe it’s sometimes better if you just stick with the language you are usually using but without talking down to them. mhhh i don’t know - you also have to consider hyrarchical discrepancies in blue and in orange, if you talk to some kind of blue priest or orange superior they will probably not listen as long as you don’t manage to bring them to the same level you are at which is some kind of eye height. if you explain it to an audience it is probably easier than talking with family members or your boss.

well you could use „by his own will“ or „by his agenda“ or „purposefully“, „intentionally“. its difficult because my english is probably much simpler as yours, which is not because my spiral colour is blue or orange but because it’s a second language and i don’t have as many complex words in my vocabulary.

@RendHeaven first of all if you use consciousness without explaining it, it’s just a label a tag that can be used inflationary - like every thing, if you take it out of context. if you choke on the consciousness part it probably won’t help rising it. blue likes labels like good and bad, positive negative but you will have to give an explanation aside from the label which proves the label, not some bs you made up but rather something following their rationality, which could be a religious one if they are religious. in orange you always try to show them what’s in for them. pretty easy in theory

@Javfly33 sis- you did not actually assume i was a guy did you? that’s another part i‘m getting rather sick of. in the beginning i used to check the gender of the people here on a regular base, but now i only do if i get a feeling it could be a woman - because most guys make it so rare. it’s really annoying that the forum has in many cases this ego male supremacy thing going on, even the women have it, i have a survival agenda, too. i respect that a lot of people are fighting to get over their addictions and codependencies - but sometimes i feel like i also just want to be treated as a „normal person“ which i am. sometimes i ask myself why guys treat each other that way, maybe i‘d rather ask why women treat women the same way - why it’s getting so rough all the time. your porn taste was probably a hint towards where you have to work on a lot. these dynamics just point towards deeper issues - but your sexual life is your life, i‘m sure if you like „weird“ stuff you will more likely find someone fast than people who just search for some „nice“ girl with a certain physiognomy. (sorry without assuming you might like guys)

parcour requires a lot of thinking. it’s just that you connect the body (your console) with the thinking organ.

@Viking what kind of games? despite ego shooters? are there special games you liked? i mean rather the type of game than the name of the game - i‘m not a gamer. but i can understand the dynamic in a sense. was there something else you liked as a kid like climbing or playing with sticks or drawing? there must have been a time before gaming. you know there are people who went from gamers to subway riders. not that i would recommend sth like that, but i could imagine climbing or parcour to give you some cicks. these are sports you could do with others - it’s not even difficult to start. i want to play a choose and pick game with you, the rules are as following: you choose one activity which sounds interesting for yourself during the next week, one you can start without a lot of effort, it must be one where you have to learn a body/mind skill and you also start doing it within the next week. if you don’t you lost the game. tell me if you are in by the way i read something interesting lately about stopping to react and starting to be responsive - i think this could be a good start.

@Javfly33 could you refrain from using that kind of speech? i‘m a little sick of all the sexually loaded aggressive speech - even if autoaggressive. its like i get a headache everytime someone has to somehow verbally use sexuality in an aggressive or autoaggressive way. why do that to yourself? sometimes wonder if it’s even possible to talk about „normal“ stuff here sometimes - everything is always in the superlatives. i also like the supernormal. its like with sausagedogs hobies i would just love to talk about some everyday stuff and how to integrate activities which are fun to do, or talk about how to change a situation more profoundly.