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Another ridiculous example... (good enough for yourself, not for me, I’d rather just stick to the topic at hand). Appeals to authority sure, I Better listen to you? Don’t think so. Where did you get your information from? Those would also be “authority figures”, unless you are a scientist/researcher or health practitioner I can trust. Why is it wrong to trust in people's track record and to question the same record of these big institutions who have all come out with shitty “research” and harmful meds for decades? Why should I trust you instead of experts and researchers that provide helpful information? All you’re doing is repeat the mainstream talking points, nothing new to see here...

Talking about attacks on character, right? @Consept

@Consept It’s not impossible, give it a try. Explain to me how Elon Musk and I (and many health professionals) are wrong.

@Consept How’s it faulty? Where’s the attack and who’s being attacked? Why do you feel attacked? I just wanted to talk about our reality and not go into “what if” and “let’s say”. Do you want to control how others reply to you? Here explain this following logic & tell me if it’s faulty. Elon Musk doesn’t want to get the vaccine, why? A billionaire who put a car in space and has access to a lot of privileged info is choosing not to get vaccinated. He believes like myself, for now, that the elderly and immunocompromised should get it. What’s so bad about that reasoning?

@Consept Your “Let’s say” is not based on reality, it’s just you hypothesizing. And as humans we share our being so I’m not saying I’m completely individual, quite the contrary, again an assumption. I thought I could get a conversation going but it’s just hypotheses and assumptions. If you want to start talking about reality let me know otherwise I’m out and we can agree to disagree.

@Tetcher ??

Lol How is it a poor argument to base my behavior on my lived experience?

I’m talking about contagion, that’s how Covid seems to spread. Maybe you were talking about coming to conclusions but not myself, assuming yet again ? By everything I already told you what I mean, their living standards or lack thereof. Making them immunocompromised and thus good potential candidates for vaccinations.

Since when are car crashes contagious? lol cmon man And if all of a sudden a lot of people around me start dying in car crashes I’d probably feel quite unsafe in a car, that’s completely understandable, you would too. Being unhealthy compromises your immune system, doesn’t matter if you’re saying the opposite. And what “everything” do you want me to tell you?

I won’t judge your argument unlike what you’ve just done, but please explain to me how cancer is contagious.

Why not? Why is TV and media better when we’ve been lied to for so long? If people around you start getting really sick your behavior will be influenced by it. I’m saying the exact opposite lol They are far from immune, their system is compromised by their environment is what I’m saying. How do you know they don’t have weak immunities when every thing points in the opposite direction?

@Opo Where I live it’s not an assumption, I literally don’t know anyone who’s suffered such things. If I knew even at least a couple that still wouldn’t be alarming. India has such poor sanitary conditions, I’m sending them lots of love & prayers! You’re assuming these folks in India are healthy but that’s more than questionable. They have almost no quality of life (be it air, water, food...) and many suffer from malnutrition.. So that’s still not a good reason to take the vaccine. Specially when in my country, most prison inmates who live in horrible conditions were asymptomatic. You have tho made a good case for the vaccination of Indians who were already living in poor conditions and vulnerable.

@Forestluv Glad to know they’re fine :), that’s my point, more than 99% healthy people are fine as far as I’m aware. And even unhealthy people I know (and that’s most people nowadays) are fine, the only one I mentioned was extremely unhealthy and made it through. Would there be really be mass upheaval if the healthier ones don’t get a vaccine? ? I along with many doctors question that assumption. Many would actually go for that approach, and these are the one I tend to trust since they have always gone against the current trend of illness management. Why trust the ones that led us into the mess the world is in? As for the donuts, I’m not talking about occurrences. I’m simply questioning the motives and interests behind all that. Why do the health practitioners I trust question the vaccine and the big corps that are causing illness support it and incentivize people to keep being ill ? ? 78% of people admited with COVID are obese (not surprising since 1 person in 2 is obese nowadays). Metabolic dysfunction is the real driver of this pandemic. But hey just trust processed food companies, the media, and big pharma as if they’ve been helpful to humanity. Everyone I know including myself has MOSTLY only been done harm by these institutions.

“Apparently” as you say. What about natural immunity and stronger immune systems? Why not get healthier instead? Why are people getting donuts for being vaccinated? Why over sanitation? The only person I know who had a severe case was obese and is now fine. It just doesn’t feel right. People love our myths about heroes and rebels yet they all comply with all of what seems to be disingenuous ?

People are paranoid about COVID and many other things indeed ? I care ✋?Why take the vaccine? Why stop caring? I seldom think about it tho.. I just don’t know why it’s recommended. What if bigger risks start arising with time? Why trust the same system that’s causing so much disease with our health?

Why not? @Village

@RendHeaven Women ARE supposed to help boys wake up and grow up, it’s not chastising, it’s evolution, they get to select and god knows how essential that is. These aren’t less developed men, these are traumatized boys. The lack of a right of passage has been leaving our society bereft of real men. A fully self actualized man doesn’t want anything from a woman, all he wants is to love her and ideally make her his queen through a sacred union. Rejection made me a man.

I’m gonna go first and admit that I used to objectify women until just very recently & that’s what most men do, of course they’re just not aware of it. It stemmed from a sense of lack, wanting to find ❤️ through women instead of sharing love with a woman. What everyone wants is ❤️, thinking you want anything less is delusion. Happy women’s day btw! I also think that we should start emphasizing the difference between men/women & boys/girls, and it ain’t about age ?

@Emerald I couldn’t agree more with what you’re saying, that’s why us men should read & practice what’s in Deida’s books. Learn to love the feminine in the world, women, men and ourselves. It’s one of our biggest shadows. ??

Have you read David Deida? He goes much deeper than what you are talking about here. I won’t even begin to describe it, just read it. I’m sure you’d love it ? He’s all about masculine feminine energy & opening as love, it’s truly amazing ?? He approaches sex from the POV of awareness, giving life long practices for enlightened sexual living. Fucking life as ❤️

From what I’m reading in his books it’s close to as good as it gets from a mans POV, my mom herself is loving his book Blue Truth. What worthwhile recommendations would you consider, from a woman’s POV? For both men and women.

That’s a good one! Although it’s hard to yet imagine Leo on another podcast, it’d be awesome. @BlackPhil I agree with Leo, it would be like a 17th century puritanical family of settlers inviting black phillip to their homestead. They are just not yet aware of wanting to live deliciously ? ? At the end of the day it will happen when a podcaster decides to invite Leo and he decides to accept going in, until then let’s enjoy whatever happens.

“Spiritual progress ensues automatically from choosing goodwill, forgiveness and lovingness as a way of being rather than viewing it as a gain-seeking transaction.” - David R. Hawkins ??

He’s just afraid, scared of the truth. He’s one of those that isn’t willing to admit God as all as ❤️, he wants God to be “Good” and not “Bad”. That creates a ‘big’ shadow in him, his belief in free individuals separate from God doesn’t help either. He’s basically saying that life is suffering and there’s no escaping that, which is what keeps him away from love.

@ivankiss I’m experiencing heaven right now with you, I acknowledge your “finite mind” as integral to our shared being, our shared love for awakening. Namaste brother ?? Let’s radiate more love with beautiful threads like this one ☝? Thank you dear!