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Okay, so I'm pretty deep in medical circle and here is what I want to say at first: People have a huge misconception about doctor's "area of mastery" and require from them to know everything about anything from neuroscience to. This is not how it works, but yeah, I agree a good doctor should have all around comprehension and reference, and what's more he should be up-to date with scientific research. In ideal world. But they're not. The tools are not always reliable an accurate. Doctors are just people like You and me, they operate based on klowledge they acquired from data that humanity gathered through the course of the time. And that data isn't always impeccable, there are literally billions of variables that could've affected the outcome and corrupting overall study or interpretation of it as invalid - That means we don't know 100% what's true and probably will never know, but what we can do is collect more data by the time and fix the bias. Don't trust anyone just because they have Dr or PhD. Don't trust Your cardiologist advice about improving size of amygdala and hippocampus - that's a neuroscientist's job. I have a friend who has a PhD in protein metabolism. Does it mean he'll dare to perform a surgery on an open brain? Nope. But they are trying to do their best. My knee hurts - Stop squatting. What I don't like with many doctors is that some of them tend to have superficial approach to patients, they don't seem to search the root cause or work around the poblem, they will stab a fucking dagger in Your heart if your issue is related to your hobby or anything You do regularly, whether it's reading, riding a horse, weightliting, skateboarding, etc . Exempli gratia: I had a client that was preparing for a marathon. He visited his doctor about two weeks before the competition with totally unrelated issue, but his doc told him his Creatine Kinase levels are above average (which is about 60-400 U/l) and he should stop running, frightening him that his kidneys will stop working. When I've heard it I was like: "Mhm.. So he just checked Your CK?" This is why doctors should have some more experience with physically active individuals: Their CK levels are almost always elevated and often much higher in muscular people if taken within 24-72 hours after strenous exercise due to the fact that CK is released into blood during muscle damage which happens intentionally during strenous exercise. One football player was recorded having a number close to 1 million in medical literature. Tri-athletes often are over 20 000 U/I after a triathlon. Most doctors tend to freak out and think their patient has rhabdomyolysis and I agree being cautios is right - That was the good part about that doc. But here is why his doctor fucked up poorly performing his job: He assumed kidney damage just from one blood marker, without even performing full kidney function test, with all certainty he "advised" my client to stop running. I had to go back to this doctor with him, explain everything above and do kidney function test and GFR markers, which (You guessed it!) indicated no damage whatsoever, so with no further discussion the doc said "Well, I guess it's fine for him to run". Another example is when my doctor told me I should consume less sodium (my intake is about 4 000 mg/day), cause it elevates blood pressure, which is actually not true for healthy individuals, since studies show correlation between sodium intake and elevated blood pressure only in one group of people, therefore they were diagnosed with condition called Salt-Senstivie Hypertension. Which in conclusion means, that certain individuals who are more sensitive to sodium are the ones who have SSH, so saying that sodium is bad for everyone* is at least misguided. I showed him the study and since my doctor has some fucking balls to drop the ego and authority label, he read it thoroughly, learnt and informed his colleagues even. *In moderation of course. Even water is toxic for You when the dose is right to induse Hyponatremia. To avoid doctor's mistakes and miscomprehension of the knowledge he has, You could go and read research by yourself and think for yourself, but trust me that it's full time job, You'll be too dumb to read the data and meta-analysis for quite time (I know I was) and... You can possibly make mistakes too no matter how well educated You are, can't You? The thing is: Being smart doesn't stop You from doing dumb things. So my take on it is: Be critical, don't take anything for granted and learn as much as You can, but also consider the fact that You have only this much time You can't master everything and at this point allow other people share their mastery with You if it's in their best intention to help You. It's like running a company - Can't do everything by yourself, let the other people contribute and the choice of who is worthy or not is up to Your own judgement.
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@Lorcan "Meditate playfully, don't meditate seriously. When You go into the meditation hall, leave your shoes. Let meditation be fun. 'Fun' is a very religious word; 'seriousness' is very irreligious. If You want to attain to the original mind, You will have to live a very non-serious, though sincere life. You will have to transform your work into play, You will have to transform all your duties into love. 'Duty' is a dirty word, of course, a four letter word." ~OSHO Owen Cook, who runs RSD company also talked about it how he gets an advantage in so called hustling in life, materialistic progress, success, Tony Robbins end of the spectrum, simply by working on enlightment, being enough, happy, nihilistic, Eckhart Tolle end of the spectrum. You see, both ends aren't necessarily counterproductive to each other, what's more - doing both at the same time gives You unfair advantage, as far as I see. @Leo Gura Have You ever abandoned a video and not uploaded it after assuming it sucks or any other reason?
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Thomas replied to Natasha's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You know what guys? Something's just come up into my mind and shifted and I want to share with You, as I kind of perceived and engaged at first in this topic as a low consciousness stimuli. But here is what I re-discovered for myself thanks to re-reading some OSHO's books (which I do every once in a while, cause this stuff is so relatable): And I find it to be quite accurate based on my experience - the most blissfull and non-dogmatic people I know also happen to have great sense of humor and laugh a lot. Really a lot. A good smile can take the pressure off of any frustrating, awkward situation I've been in, and the best laughters are the ones that come up without any reason. For example, right after 1 hour of strong determination sitting, I have no idea why, but I almost cry from laughter and find just regular objects funny as hell. Wierd and amazing how You can enter a state in which You don't reallly need much to make yourself laugh. BTW. After 1 hour SDS or intense running session in the forest I'm like: And to not make any off-topic: P.S. You're great, guys! -
At the end of the life of my physical body I'll take a plane to Alasca and jump into Aurora Borealis without a parachute. @EDIT I'll also take into consideration having an ayahuasca drink for that Alasca trip
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The list of good books in regards of topics related to fitness is undoubtly going to help somebody and give a sense of where to start and avoid as much BS as possible, so I'm going to start the list of books that helped me most and I find will be valuable source of information for everybody. I'll put them into three categories: *** - Must read, fundamental information and great overall content ** - Valuable, often more specific subject oriented, yet still offering high applicability * - For enthusiasts, very detailed, lots of analytical standpoints, medical / sport specific terms I want You guys to give some suggestions and opinions to keep the list actualized. Also let me know if You want short reviews of books - I could write my own or put yours below each title. Training Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe *** The Max Muscle Plan by Brad Schoenfeld ** Practical Programming by Mark Rippetoe ** Supertraining, 6th Edition by Mel C. Siff & Yuri Verkhoshansky *** Science and Practice of Strength Training by Vladimir Zatsiorsky * Periodization-5th Edition: Theory and Methodology of Training by Tudor Bompa * Nutrition & Dieting The Lean Muscle Diet by Lou Schuler & Alan Aragon ** The Ketogenic Diet by Lyle McDonald * The Protein Book by Lyle McDonald * A Guide to Flexible Dieting by Lyle McDonald *** The Stubborn Fat Solution by Lyle McDonald ** Ultimate Diet 2.0 by Lyle McDonald ** The UltraMind Solution by Mark Hyman, MD ** Healthy Brain, Happy Life by Wendy Suzuki, PhD **
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Developing and expanding in one area usually means neglecting other as a cost of it. When I started to coach ppl while studying it considerably compromised my time for other areas of my life such as training, diet, social relationships so I slacked off in school, because I didn't want to neglect those areas. Eventually I ended up quitting coaching people at that time and focused on being a student. Making money as a teenager feels great, but what I would focus more on is relationship with money and skill of money management, because those can be exercized without a compromise in time, unlike creating a business. On the other side You may suffer from compromising school and other areas, but develop a nice skill in HTML5, CSS, C++, Python, etc. which could give You an edge if You proceeded to develop in this area as a professional. Whatever You're going expand at remember: Everything has its price. You will have to tradeoff time, psychological & physical health, You name it - You can't get it all, so You have to be smart about Your priorities. Don't expect Your first business to be amazing - I don't mean there are no exceptions, but usually first experiences with entrepreneurship are more of brutal lessons than great succeses. It says a son of a woman who's built 8 companies from scratch lost millions throughout the process and earnt other millions as a combination of payoff for persistence and being smart (and lucky).
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THERE IS NO POINT! Life is the purpose itself. It has no point. Isn't it cool that You are free to make Your own point, to make a pointless thing matter for a blink of an eye? You're going to die anyway so why not make it fun, before You turn into a dust? It's not supposed to be eternal. Why make a sandcastle if the waves of the ocean are going to destroy the product of You expressing your gifts? I dunno, but I might as well built that fuckin sandcastle, because I want to.
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@Irina Irina Don't take it personally, like I said, I'm adressing only the claim that body can only absorb 25 grams of protein a day, which is harmful to spread. @JimmySmalls It's true that You need roughly 0.8 g/kg, but what is understood by being needed and beneficial is different. Higher protein intake amongst athletes is proven to give minor additional benefits when it comes to fat loss / muscle retention, increased capacity for training adaptations and appetite suppression. International Society of Sports Nutrition standpoint Study with resistance trained athletes Maintaining nitrogen balance a.k.a. protecting Your gains study Higher protein intake preserves muscle mass during caloric restriction study Am I saying You can't make gains with 0.8 g/kg protein intake? No. Am I saying some individuals in particular circumstances can take benefits from higher than 0.8 g/kg intake (up to 2.2 g/kg in some cases)? Yes. Peace. @Edit: I didn't see You wrote 0.8 g/lb, but whatever, I wrote some stuff anyway Good channels are being mentioned in the post above, so I'd suggest checking out Scooby, Omar Isuf and Elliott Hulse especially.
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Being arrogant usually didn't make me not try any new idea. And I'm hell arrogant. It might sound weird, but it's the reverse - I will digg and digg, and check the idea from every angle and from that verify if it's worth applying to my life or is complete bullshit. I might of course argue to death, but if You'll eventually prove Your point - I take it as WIN/WIN. I benefit from You depleting me from dogma or any kind of unresourceful, negative idea, concept, misinformation. My arrogance needs substance, needs fuel to justify itself.
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Less conscious people that appear in Your life are blessings and tests of Your enlightenment. Don't ask how to talk. You know how to talk. Ask rather how to remain present while talking to them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqr98O8QT3M Ask a good Pick-up Artist how to talk to girls and he'll tell You that being congruent with yourself and embracing the present moment matters much more than what You say.
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Is there no better question to ask Leo, really? Here is a video considering enlightment stuff (might be helpful or even answer):
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@Irina Irina I'm not gonna argue with Mike Chang, haha It's just beyond anything, I cannot win with his science and experience, neither Layne Norton who has a PhD in protein metabolism. Alan Aragon, Masters in Nutritional Science, also known as the son of Aragorn, by himself, or with Brad Schoenfeld, a.k.a. Dr Long Schlong, or randomly picked study 1, study 2, study 3, study 4, study 5, they all fall apart in the face of the power of towel rows, and THE ASIAN SECRET because, well... science! No offense, seriously, if some of his advice works for You or/and his positive attitude in videos make You keep going - that's great! No intention to convince You to anything - I'm only addressing the issue of protein absorption (which is a bullshit claim, that body can absorb 25 grams of protein A DAY), not aminoacid ingestion frequency and it's effects on plasma levels or muscl-protein-synthesis levels.
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@Irina Irina Based on what data lol? If that was true, You would have an explosive diarrhea & poop whole parts of food after ingesting e.g. 8 ounces of steak. Your body does a fine job at absorbing protein and even though it's hard to estimate and give a universal number of how much You can absorb, I can assure You - it's much more than 25 grams a day, which by the way is an intake close to promoting protein defficiency & health issues. Breakdown of protein begins in the mouth through the mechanical act of chewing, almost no actual digestion occurs there. Rather, chewed protein hits the stomach where digestion and breakdown occurs via hydrochloric acid and the enzyme pepsinogen. The majority (data shows approximately 95%) of protein digestion occurs in the small intestine where protein is broken down into smaller and smaller amino acid (AA, the building blocks of protein) chains via a variety of protein digesting enzymes. You can think of proteins as being a long chain of the AAs, the enzymes basically act like scissors, cutting the chains into smaller and smaller bits. Prior to absorption into the bloodstream, whole proteins have been broken down to provide single AAs along with two and three AA chains (called di- and tri-peptides); further breakdown occurs in the intestinal cells themselves, finally releasing individual amino acids into the bloodstream. Generally speaking, AA chains larger than three in length will not be absorbed to any appreciable degree. I’d note that occasionally very small amounts of longer amino acid chains can slip through and this is especially the case in situations like leaky gut syndrome where the normal functioning of the gut has been compromised. This is actually a very bad thing as the body tends to launch immune/allergic responses to the presence of undigested protein in the bloodstream; which is a big part of why the gut is set up to not allow larger protein chains into the bloodstream under normal circumstances. The protein that is stored in Your gut is: 1) Currently being absorbed in the intestines and later into the body, by amino acid transporters 2) Waiting for being absorbed 3) Unabsorbed fragments are going to the colon to be fermented by bacteria 4) If there is too much protein - It's going to be converted into sugar (glucose) via process of gluconeogenesis - Yes, Your body is so fucking awesome that it can turn unnecessary protein into more universal fuel which glucose is! The speed of protein digestion is not a static value, it varies and is affected many factors (age, activity levels, nutrient partitioning, frequency, type of ingested protein, sources, other macronutrients added, etc.), but usually is between 5-10 g/hour (not a day). One more thing is that amino acids and some peptides are able to self-regulate their time in the intestines. For example - digestive hormone Cholecystokinin which, in addition to regulating appetite and satiety in response to food can also slow down intestinal contractions and speed in response to protein. It is released when dietary protein is present, and demonstrates a way in which the body can slow down digestion in order to absorb all present protein.
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@The Son You'd be surprised if You saw what kind of types & amounts of stimulants people at medical school use 2-7 liters of water is what most experts including US National Research Council agree with to be reccomended intake depending on body mass and activity levels to avoid dehydration. To induce a state of hyponatremia (water intoxication) one should have to drink approximately 5 liters in one sitting, which is almost impossible to happen. However it's not uncommon to see athletes having higher (8-11 liters) water intake throughout the day cycle. When it comes to water, I drink from 5 to 7 liters a day, I would die of thrist otherwise and feel sluggish, hungry, fatigued. When it comes to green tea, yup, I've taken it too far, but adressed the issue in the right time
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Thomas replied to Natasha's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"You should sit in meditation for 20 minutes a day, unles You're too busy - then You should sit for an hour" If GPS was enlightened: -
1. Can You see benefits in doing a morning ritual? How would it impact Your life compared to now if You had a very strict, organised plan / idea of what You're going to do in the morning a.k.a. how would You start Your day? Do You think You could delegate some tasks to do every single morning? If You did that and proceeded to get done maybe just 1 task of Your choice, every-single-morning - How would it feel like after doing it considtently for a week? For a month? For a year? Would You develop some momentum from little succesess and turn it into HUGE drive helping Your self-esteem and executing much, much bigger tasks? 2. Honsetly, here is the thing I use - I know that I have to sleep 8-9 hours a day to function properly, so I take this time and alocate on the timeline the way it fits my current lifestyle and daily tasks. Exempli gratia: To get to the college I have to exit home at 6:50 am, my latest task of the day which is reading or styduying ends up about 7-8 PM. My morning routine takes approximately 1h30 - 2h, so right after doing it I can continue the day. From that timeline I just go to sleep after last task, at 8-9 PM and wake up at 5 AM. 3. NOW. Honestly, it's been bothering me if I should meditate twice a day with shorter sessions length or one big in the evening, maybe in the morning. Locate Your meditation session the way You can maintain doing it consistently - For me doing it before sleep for 1 hour was great, I adapted it to do in the morning by thinking it'll give me more benefits with social interactions and it gives a small edge over the nocturnal session, but the thing is: Meditating > not meditating. The difference is small when You compare the times of when You perform meditating session as opposed to HUGE difference whether You did meditated the day before or did not. But consistency is the most important, if something happens that I can't do it in the morning or maybe do half of the time - I will meditate later in the day for sure. Greetings from a neighbour from Poland.
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Keep the routine simple - A terrible mistake I made at first, when I tried to do all and everything in the morning and had like 30 steps in the routine, it's more confusing than efficient. I re-invented my routine so that it has no more than 6 tasks to perform in the morning, but these are core - 1 to 2 high priority tasks that have to be done (e.g. meditation, reading), 2 medium priority (e.g. stretching, cleaning house) an the rest are mundane, but obviously have-to-be-done tasks. Start with something energizing - reading or meditating right after getting up, may just put You into sleep back in Your case, so the first task may be simple, but get your body moving. Tony Robbins would advise to jump and do some affirmations or even go outside, Eliott Hulse would say to do bioenergetics and shake Your body like crazy and scream, just do the thing that works for You. For me, the more stupid movement I have to engage, the more aware I'll become, because I have to face some resistance also. Ice-cold morning showers are my personal favourite, but they're brutal and brutally effective. When it comes to energy & alertness in the morning, a lot depends on the quality of sleep and here are some tips coming through my mind right now: Blue light emitting devices such as smartphones, tablets, PC's (basically everything with electronic display) suppresses levels of the sleep-promoting hormone melatonin, reduces the amount and delays the timing of REM sleep, and reduces alertness the following morning. Solution: Minimize the use of electronics at least 1 hour before bedtime, install on Your PC third-party software such as f.lux that adapts the colours of Your display based on the time of clock, also reduces blue light. Keep Your bedroom nice-n-cold, it's easier to fall asleep and the chance of waking up at night is reduced significantly. No alcohol at least 3 hours before bedtime, no caffeine at least 5 hours before bedtime. I'd suggest to sleep 7-8 hours a night for 10 consecutive days and see if anything has changed, because restriction of sleep produces a neural sleep wave pattern that is sometimes observed in depression, so If You are going to do some blood test in near future, You could also check Your fasting glucose, testosterone, serum cortisol and thyroid, cause even 90 minutes chronic restriction in sleep pattern may affect significantly Your health, Your sleep & functioning as well.
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My first experience with waking up early and morning routines started from a TEDx talk, I did #21earlydayschallenge and woke up every day at 4 am, proceeded to go and do training session, then make some tea and head to work. What I do now is the way that fits my goals, lifestyle just a little better. Wake up at 5 am Make green tea, (that'll be ready to drink when I exit home) Do foam-rolling (15 min) 1. Whole back 2. Mid back 3. Laterals 4. Pectorals 5. Serratus-anterior 6. IT-Bands 7. Glutes 8. Hip flexors 9. Quads 10. Groins Shower & Dress Up (15-20 min) Strong determination sitting / Do nothing meditation (40-60 min)
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Somehow I cannot edit my post to add new books @Rares Unfortunately I haven't stumbled upon a book that would cover everything from upside down providing non biased informtion on every single part or without neglecting one at the expense of another. What I would say the closest ones or really good ones are Mark Rippetoe's books and Supertraining by Mel C. Siff. However crucial thing to understand is that strength corresponds to the muscle mass You carry on Your body, for all around fitness and time efficiency / biggest benefits for strength / hyperthrophy / health benefits training 3 times a week, full body workout, linear periodization, session length < 90 mins + cardio in a separate sessions throughout the week seem to be the way to go in terms of most optimal, because You're already inducing ~90% of the stimulus for growth and You also take care of Your cardiovascular capacity & health, providing even some benefits for brain function (neuroplasticity - elevation of brain-derived neurotrophic factor, improvement of cognitive function). Training itself, if not taken to extreme, is beneficial for overall fitness.
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Everybody wants to feel sexy, I wanted to be like a gorilla pounding sugar walls balls deep at first and can't say that I'm totally beyond that now & transcendent We're all chimps, man But the thing is that, when it's good impulse, I feel like the low consciousness, those primal "needs" are not going to keep You going and that's why You need to engage some bigger reason, little bit of philosophy behind whatever You do to stick to it and keep the fire burning. It applies almost to everything - If you don't believe it's important / beneficial for You, You'll simply skip it or quit it. If I didn't belive meditation helps me tremendously and perceived it as some whacky hippie shit, I wouldn't waste my precious time for it. That's why, You have to find Your own WHY and question it, evolve it.
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EAT what You enjoy - find a balance between high nutrient dense foods like veggies and high calorically dense (processed food also tends to have higher calorie content in less volume). Basically try to eat as healthy as possible - this is the goal of the day and then You can incorporate some If You're going to put too much weight on the weekly basis (1 pound is pretty much a sweet spot when it starts diminishing returns) , just cut out some crap like sweetened beverages, less crappy food. If You're planing to do only bodyweight training I would say a pullup bar is only thing You need to buy. Even for doing eccentric portion of the movement. Get a program, the simplier the better, because progression is what You'll be focusing on. Exempli gratia: 5 sets of pushups, as many reps each set as You can do (don't go all out on the first set, have in mind a picture of Your whole training session and the amount of energy You'll have to expense, be mindful and strategic - Any workout can make You tired, not every workout will make You better. Make a workout log - on paper, electronic, whatever You like, but log how many sets and reps You performed each session as it will be the point from Let's say you did a workout A on the first week and You did 5 sets of pushups 12 reps each , Your goal for the next week workout A is to beat that number, even 1 rep counts, but keep progressing. And another important thing is to pick exercises You enjoy doing, maybe those that give You the biggest pump or just feel good (It doesn't mean You should do curls all day, like a bro ^.^)
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@A Lone Wanderer In The Ketogenic Diet or any first chapters of his books, Lyle McDonal gives a quite handful of info. The thing is, these so called "diet books" I've mentioned are not approach eat X to lose X weight over the X days, they undoubtly have that in their content, but there is much more, non-buyest data authors use to support WHY Your body needs Y, while it Can produce Z alone, what is called macronutrient and what micronutrient, how to distinguish essential aminoacids and under what circumstances non-essential aminoacids become actually essential. Do not be deceived by the title, my friend. I would recommend The Protein Book by Lyle McDonald and The Ultramind Solution by Mark Hyman as they both contain plentiful information You might be interested in. Another book is The Lean Muscle Diet, by Alan Aragon (the most knowledgable and respected nutritionist & researcher in the industry IMHO If You're interested in physiology, nutrition, endocrynology, man.. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov or http://examine.com/ are a few of the many ways to go. I recommend checking Examine.com, as it's most friendly and simply presented, yet very resourceful to find tracks to dig deeper.
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So I wonder how an entrepreneur, being also the creative power should deal with people in the same industry that copy his own products and ideas in order to sell them for a lower price, even at the cost of no profit at all. I'll be more concrete: My mother manages a small/medium sized company selling formal clothes for women for about 21 years now, she's taking care of the whole process - from creating a concept of a model, producing it and selling. What I've observed over the past years is that she seems to reach a pletau that does not allow her to invest time and energy into improving / growing the company, investing into marketing, more employees, etc. Not only it is detrimental to her psychological and physical health to take care of almost every single task, she doesn't trust people - she thinks she'll do everything better - the less employees to control is less risk of getting f@cked by them later on, even though the company can easily afford expansion. She's obsessed with the competition that steals her ideas, her "babies" and ruins economy by underpricing products. She's afraid of making her products more popular (by delivering to more sellers across the country and abroad) due to high risk of someone copying it (some ppl sell it even for the lower price than production cost), the copyright is really easy to formally avoid in our country in this industry. Any concepts and ideas You would like to share that would relate to this situation and how to deal with it? From a entrepreneurial and self-actualization standpoints - How can I help her? I hate watching passively how she destroys herself mentally and not knowing what I can do about it.
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@Pinocchio HAHA! So true
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@Cookiesliyr 1. She is profoundly disgusted by the copies and perceives it as an insult to what she believes these clothes are for her - quality, character, personality. She is angry at people who don't see the depth behind what she creates and want quick-fix. She worked years for connections she has now, but what she believes to be a problem is She's constantly digging for information, new concepts, making 60+ calls a day just to be up to date on what's going on in the industry. Exempli gratia: She discovered a source of new, very good material to make a hit, she bought everything from the producer - they made an unofficial agreement that she'll be the only one to get it. After 2 weeks she dig up and observed a nearby company having same material bought from the same producer on the side. 2 & 3. It's not entirely the money thing - Yes, she made her pile of gold from that back in the day. It's about next step, overcoming plateau that stops her from development, the same strategy that worked 10 years ago doesn't apply now and it seems she's stuck with it. Honestly, I have no idea if it gives her more opportunity for more future clients, but what she claims is that clients are not loyal, they will just go for the lower price, because the sales are not as good as few years ago and they just want to make a living. What Brian Tracy says - Consumers are very picky, their needs and standard requirements increase in a very rapid pace, so the companies should be constantly expanding & growing in order to keep up and I made an assumption that something stops my mother from deciding what steps to take in order to keep everything going. She can afford new employees, the thing is she's very resistant to it (idk, some company secrets, spies, paranoia). Even though she earned quite reputation, it doesn't seem to pay off - She is angry probably because she lost 1/3, maybe even more consumer base, because they went to those who have lower prices at the cost of quality. So she made a casual, low-price line of clothes and.. they are getting copied too. People come with cameras in their pockets, it's like a conspiracy movie, lol. I don't know, so far she's losing money off of that, maybe she should focus on some other ascpect since this one is pretty much uncontrollable. The question is - which one? Different business? She loves her clothes, she feels like an artist and she CAN sell very efficiently.