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I think the more important thing to ask is has this spiritual path been of value for you. The results should speak for themselves, but a strong ego can make it hard to believe what you’ve seen.

Christ Consciousness: Everyone is You, so to harm another would be like shooting yourself in the foot. The common conclusion of this realization: Do no harm. A different perspective: To stop shooting yourself in the foot, you have to make violence your enemy which would be to reject an aspect of yourself. One of the most evil things is the attempt to snuff out evil wherever you find it. If this pursuit were ever fully successful, a key part of the drama would be lost. We find ourselves in a fight to the death. Life is a gladiator arena. The beauty is, even death is safe. Permanent harm cannot done, but impermanent harm is inescapable. The impermanent harm allows us to appreciate our state of permanent safety. All gladiators in the arena wish to remove the weapons from their competitor’s hands while convincing themselves and their foes that they are the one whose weapon is nothing to worry about.

Yeah. Here we have it.

Have you tried contemplating on spatial dimensions? I had a pretty profound experience of this merging last week doing so. The insight that sparked the experience of radical oneness was that Reality is zero-dimensional.

Bipolar Disorder & Spiritual Enlightenment - The Accidental Buddha Mental illness is just different modes of perception judged harshly due to their ineffectiveness at furthering the current culture’s collective survival agenda as well as the individual’s survival agenda. Homosexuality was seen as a mental illness. All of this is relative.

What are your estimations for LSD tolerance then? It seems to be accurate for shrooms from what people are saying here. It’d be nice to hear your experience with LSD because this info is a bit hard to find online with any search using “tolerance” pulls up tons of propaganda-ish articles related to LSD addiction lol

This website/calculator gives the same result. 12 days seems to be an accepted timeframe for tolerance to disappear. The calculator is using dried grams btw, so divide your fresh weight by 10 to calculate. https://codepen.io/cyberoxide/full/BaNarGd

God always sees everything that is. God is everything that is. There just so happens to be a narrative going on in our case which says “This isn’t God. This isn’t everything that is. What is experienced right now isn’t the Source.” It’s ironic you’re asking how this happens when you’re the one doing it ? Examine every assumption you have such as God is this, the Source is that, I am a separate and lower thing than the Source or God, etc. Whatever process you’re witnessing when you examine these assumptions is exactly how “God deludes itself.” Truthfully, God does not delude itself. God is. Existence is. And within what is right now, one possibility we see is that a character with a limited identity can occur within what is. When this is what is, this occurrence within what is takes center stage to give a story to what is occurring. This process is no more or less delusional than a flower growing toward the sun or a rain drop falling to the Earth. The character just loves to see things as true vs. delusional. Without the character to create the experience/belief of delusion being the case, you will find no delusion in anything you see. Hope this helps.

@SolarWarden I’m sure he’s having fun with this, but it isn’t helpful to the forum. I’ve misused the forum in the past in a similar way to how he is now. It can be kind of hard to avoid in certain states. I was trying to give him a push in the right direction, but I imagine it will likely go unheeded.

Connor you actually have worthwhile experiences and understanding to share. The video gives ultimately no value to most of the forum users here. Try posting things that are more appropriate for the forum’s purposes. Your podcast with Aaron Abke is a good example of something people here might appreciate and benefit from.

Saying a limitation like that is proof that prayer doesn’t work is like saying because human legs can’t propel you into outer space they don’t allow for movement. The truth is you have brought up some good points about prayer. It’s not some tool by which the ego can use infinite power for its own purposes. It’s very similar to saying meditation doesn’t work tbh. You also can’t meditate a nuclear weapon into your back yard. Prayer, done right, is a form of connection with the Divine.

My friend, everyone here talking against the ego here is doing it motivated almost entirely by their ego. Mw711 had a good response here. EVERYTHING is God. Of course the ego is included in that. To focus on dissolving the ego is ultimately a goal of the ego. If you’re feeling the need to get some materialistic or “lower” activities out of the way, that’s your intuition and your desire. Explore it. You don’t have to stop spiritual practice to do so though. We were not put here by Absolute Perfection in an Infinitely Intelligent design to deconstruct it and run from it 100% of the time. Have some worldly experiences. Learn what there is to be learned from the human experience which is mediated by a survival-focused ego. I wouldn’t be surprised if at the end of this life where I tried my best to become directly conscious of God that I realize “SHIT! I’ve always been God, and I just ruined my first vacation in a while trying to do more work ?” But really, follow your own heart. It will generally create an outcome far better for yourself and others rather than submitting to all the different “shoulds” you hear people telling you throughout life. It’s your journey. Go where you’d like to go, and see the things you’d like to see. But all of this I typed here was just another set of “shoulds” from someone who isn’t yourself.

@Rilles but Reality gave us the means to create and stockpile weapons of mass destruction in such high volumes that we could easily make it all a crater through purely materialistic means. Hmmm ?

I’ve had some deep experiences with prayer. The deepest occurred when I was on an LSD trip. I felt that I should call my mom. She is a devout Christian although she has a pretty open mind and trust of my spirituality as she can feel the Holy Spirit at times with me in ways that she has only felt with a quite limited amount of people even though she’s spent years going to church and being around those folk. At one point during the call, I asked her to pray for me. Essentially right as she began her silent prayer to herself, I felt this incredible warm and palpable loving energy go throughout my entire chest. Now, one might simply say that I was under the influence of a substance at that time and it was similar to a placebo effect which was compounded by the drug. That’s a fair point, but I highly doubt anyone who experienced what I did in that moment would doubt the real power of her prayer. Regardless, I’ve had many other sober experiences with prayer that have shown me it is real and powerful. With certain sincere individuals that I’ve prayed with, I feel the Holy Spirit quite strongly. It’s pretty clear confirmation of the legitimacy of prayer when you experience that. I would view prayer as a time to intentionally connect with God. Don’t make it all about what my ego needs help with or what I want. Make it about feeling your connection to the Divine. Focus on infusing love into your prayer. Who do you know who seems to need it most? I’d say the more you actually care and love for the person and sympathize/empathize with their struggles, the more effective it will be. I would suggest that, when it feels to be right, you re-examine the Christian faith and give it a fair shot. This is not because it’s the only truth. Far from it. I say this because I can personally confirm that there is a real and potent possibility for spiritual connection through it. The issue comes that many Christians are only believers rather than experiencers. I think in many cases a lot of Christians are held back by dogma, misinterpretations, translation errors, and other similar things. There’s a lot of value to be found in many of the world religions. I can personally speak to the efficacy of Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, and Christianity due to profound experiences I’ve had with all of these. Many people on this forum experience and understand some deep and necessary truths, but there is still a rejection of many traditional religious practices. Test different methods out for yourself, but trust that if millions or billions of people are doing something there is generally at least something true, real, and effective to be found in that activity. I gave a prayer just now that you will be able to feel the power of prayer in your own life. See if anything changes ? And welcome to the forum!

All of your points seem very interrelated. I don’t see the need to boil it down much further. The most important thing I’ve learned from my business mentor was the most important thing is to take the first concrete step to get started that doesn’t give you much chance to turn around and quit.

I think the obvious reason is Leo does not have a focus on this or see importance in it. The most likely way this would happen is for some of us to make this happen independently of actualized.org/Leo while using it as the foundation. We would be like the first Buddhists to build a temple or setting for the purpose of spreading and expounding upon the teachings of Buddha. Ultimately, there are certain pitfalls and limitations to this, but it still could be beneficial.

@mandyjw the path of least resistance is a wise approach with this work. If he’s drawn enough to do this somewhat intense practice, this could be his path of least resistance, or he could quickly find that it seems unnatural. There’s a lot of effectiveness in following your natural inclinations. I’ve found it has been beneficial to my journey.

A good thing to think of is what the difference is between created vs. imagined. Imagination is an act of creation for certain. Is creation not also an act of imagination? This life is just a robust imagination vs. a flimsy imagination.

@Megan Alecia I see what you mean here. There can certainly be inauthenticity in things such as this, but the business and amount of content seem to allow him to reach many more people with the value he is trying to provide. If it were discovered that he was using business for his own profit rather than a means to have greater positive impact, this would certainly be problematic. I have seen some information about his past that seems a bit dishonest such as him not giving credit to a significant guru of his, but many people report finding growth through his work too. My main point with this was that the operation of a business itself does not inherently degrade a spiritual teacher or their teachings, but it could be that this is what is taking place in the case of Sadhguru. If that’s what your intuition and analysis is showing you, trust that.

The transcendental Self has no limitations, is perfectly authentic, and is Love already. Be honest, are these not goals of your ego? I think they are goals in alignment with your true nature, but your ego seems to be a participant in the desire for these things. I would not consider this delusion by any means though. You know your experience far better than I possibly could, so maybe there was not much ego involved in this.

I wasn’t trying to be pushy, but I recognize how it might seem so. The concrete reason is that without the infrastructure created by all different arrays of businesses humanity would not possess the same capacity to evolve spiritually. Right now we’re communicating on a spiritual sub forum that is financially supported by less spiritually-focused business products and services such as Leo’s life purpose course. We’re using devices created by businesses to access information for our spiritual growth. The list goes on and on. Business is really just a subset of survival. Without the survival benefits of business, we’d find ourselves in a place where growth and development were likely much less within our grasp.

I think your main question is really “can my human form express the absolute highest attributes of God?” That’s probably not going to be too realistic in certain domains, but to deny the possibility would also be foolish in my opinion. Many of these things can be experienced internally, but to reproduce something like this to feed the ego’s purposes is going to likely gum up the whole operation. Most interactions with these higher aspects I’ve had have been produced with intent behind them, but the human will was usually ineffective to bring any of this about. Usually it was an accident that I was hoping would happen which usually happens quite differently than I would have anticipated. All qualities of God are exhibited through Existence itself already. God’s IQ is expressed equivalently in both someone with brain damage and Albert Einstein. Anything your ego sees as being beneath God is actually an expression of God. For example if we are to consider infinite intelligence numerically (which is kind of bad form to do so, but anyway), infinity does not just include the highest values that seem to be beyond current human potential. It includes all values, even those far beneath a human’s current potential. God is doing all of this. You are already doing all of this.

Maybe this won’t impress or interest you, but I found this video of Sadhguru a couple days ago which I appreciated the depth of. I generally found him underwhelming and didn’t resonate with him much before either, but I think he is overall a positive influence and a good gateway and introduction to spirituality in the same way as Eckhart Tolle for a lot of people. https://youtu.be/DX3BW-HJCJI To be fair, one could say the same thing about Leo as far as the business and similar content goes. Leo’s content is more diverse, but ultimately he is talking about the same thing or few things much of the time. Don’t demonize business. Teachers who offer entirely free services are great, but they typically become quite limited in the scope of who they can reach due to lack of resources. I’m not saying Sadhguru is running his business in a proper way that is conducive to spirituality — I haven’t researched his case enough to say. It does seem beneficial and rather genuine on the surface judging from some legitimate testimonies I’ve seen though.

If it’s not funny sometimes, how can it be fully fun?

This is a good exercise to try if you have not already or even to try again. Feel free to ask for more clarification.