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Good video. The ego and what to do with it might be one of the single most confusing concepts introduced on the path to Truth.

This seems to be stemming mostly from dualistic value judgments. The most logical solutions for resolving this to me would be to either find a way to change how you judge/value “mundane” life, find a way to stop making as many value judgments, or create the foundation to experience things that do truly interest you in this life according to your current value judgment structure. Combining these three approaches will probably yield the best results.

Leo is critical of overly-biased science. If you listened to his content regarding science enough, you’d know that he is not anti-science. This science he’s talking about is in almost all cases corrupted by an over-attachment to the materialist paradigm. One of Leo’s goals is to inspire a positive change in science.

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Enlightenment is realizing you’re the entire movie not that your previously identified character is powerless. You aren’t watching a movie happen to you. You are doing all that happens and are all that happens.

@Rohit Kuna I get all of that. I was trying to explain that I understand the potential for all possible manifestations exists within the present moment, but I was saying that the word “exist” to me is talking about what is actually present. The potential for all other manifestations exists right now, but the current manifestations which you witness right now in the present moment are all that there is beyond just potential. Existence is always in the present. Everything in the present is all that exists. This doesn’t mean the potential for anything else isn’t still held in the present. I’m pretty sure you get what I’m talking about based on your response. The language around this can just be tricky. I was mainly just trying to get you to use the word exist in a more technical way. Nothing’s wrong really with your insights at all.

This is good, but the only adjustment I would make is to say that what exists is here and now. This can potentially change in any way, but this does not mean everything exists simultaneously. At least that’s how I see it

@Rohit Kuna here’s what I wrote in my notes about it Solving the mind-body problem by understanding dreams When you go to sleep at night, you often find yourself in dreams. In these dreams, most people will still have a human body. In waking reality, there is an unsubstantiated claim or story given by people that consciousness is somehow generated by the brain. The experts aren’t so sure, or at least they don’t have any solid evidence. Look up the “hard problem of consciousness” to understand how this is unsubstantiated. In the dream, you typically do not think along the same lines. If you were to lucid dream, you would certainly not think you were the dream body or somehow generated by the brain in your dream head. I say you, but I need to clarify exactly who you are. You are consciousness. Consciousness is the only constant you can find in all realities. In the dream, you are literally everything perceived in the dream. It’s all generated by your consciousness. We understand fully that everything created in our dreams comes entirely from us and is an extension of us. Surprisingly enough, there’s no solid argument against this being exactly the same case in waking reality. Your brain, body, and mind are all generated by consciousness in the same fashion consciousness generates the entire reality in dreams. Beyond your mind, body, and brain, you as consciousness generate this entire reality. This entire reality IS consciousness and nothing else. It’s the same way in a dream; nothing is separate from you as consciousness. You as consciousness are the sole source for everything in the dream. No one thinks everyone in their dreams are conscious, separate entities once they’ve come back to the waking state. It’s the same in this reality. There’s absolutely no way you can actually be shown something outside of your consciousness. There will never ever be proof that other beings are conscious separately or outside of your consciousness. Even if you merged consciousness with another being in the waking state as a way to somehow prove the existence of another consciousness, guess what it would be? It would be fully engulfed in exactly one thing: you as consciousness or otherwise put your consciousness. You are the source of everything that exists in your consciousness, and your consciousness is the entirety of your universe and always will be. Nothing can ever exist outside of your consciousness. Existence relies completely on perception and consciousness to even be relevant. What is the difference between a fairytale land in a book, the black void people typically conceive of as nothingness or nonexistence, and a reality you imagine exists like heaven? They’re all just imagination. The only thing that’s real is what you can experience in this very moment. As soon as something exits consciousness, it exits existence. There’s no proof for something existing outside of consciousness, and there never will be because the most fundamental building block in any proof is, you guessed it, consciousness. Before using reason or logic or any other conceptual tool to prove something you use precisely one thing first: consciousness. Even if you and I are both conscious entities, we live in completely different “universes of consciousness.” Precisely, that is to say that one consciousness can never be shown another consciousness to exist without perceiving the other consciousness through the lens of the original consciousness. As soon as one consciousness comes into the other, the secondary consciousness immediately becomes an aspect of the primary consciousness. So if you were to completely merge your consciousness with mine, your consciousness would be held within my consciousness, and it would be the same for you if the process were done from your perspective. This is a clear mechanic of consciousness. We can never know if the person sitting across the lunch table from us is conscious. We can only assume one way or the other. Anything imagined to be separate from the perspective of the original consciousness will always just be one more aspect of the original consciousness. In this way, we are entirely alone as consciousness. We are not alone as human beings. There are plenty of humans walking around. You can clearly perceive that, but by the very nature of perception, consciousness cannot perceive another consciousness without it immediately becoming another aspect of itself. Consciousness cannot perceive another consciousness as some sort of separate thing. Once the “other” consciousness is viewed, it only exists as long as it is in contact with the primary consciousness - the point of perception, and it is only truly the primary consciousness the entire time. In this way, you can never truly share space with another consciousness. You cannot perceive another consciousness. Anything you perceive is just you. You are consciousness. Everything is you. Everything is consciousness. It will be this way for eternity. You as consciousness will likely visit innumerable dreamt up worlds that you’ve created. You’ll perceive yourself as some kind of avatar or character as far as we can tell. You’ll at first see all the rest of the characters in your dreamt up creation as separate from you, but in truth those dream characters are just as much you as your primary character is. They’re just characters held within consciousness. One, your primary character who you at first feel to live inside, simply exists in your consciousness more of the time than the others. Ultimately neither the other characters or your perceived primary character is you because you are the consciousness that permeates all aspects of the dream world including its laws of physics, characters, objects, and everything else. You aren’t the characters any more than you are the objects or the laws of motion that govern that reality. You are all aspects of that reality. You are all aspects of all realities. A reality can only exist within you. Something is only real to you if it is held within your consciousness. No realities exist outside of the one you are experiencing right now. This waking state planet Earth does not exist when you are in a dream. Your wife could tell you that the world still existed while you were asleep, but you have to see how this is exactly the same as if your dream wife told you the dream reality was there while you were asleep. It means nothing because you as consciousness were not there. That seems to be the pattern in what we can verify between both the waking state and dreams.

Would you like to see my notes/writing from contemplation on dreams? It’s not contemplation from dream states but rather contemplation of how the experience of dreams informs what we can know is true

You are speaking of a direct experience you had. I’ve had similar things happen. Literally energy healing people in the psych ward with them able to feel it and having strong reactions. It seems like there’s a plan behind these type of events. I’ve shared similar connections with completely sober and sane people as well. Everybody here talks about how conscious they are yet have no experience of the Holy Spirit. I don’t blame them. Not everyone’s heart is as open to it. I had the same mentality of skepticism before I experienced miracles in my own life.

Long story short, I have had some experiences with transferring emotions and spiritual energies between myself and others in ways that both people have felt simultaneously. I am mainly posting this to introduce people to this possibility that may exist for them. I’m not sure exactly how accessible this is to everyone, but I’m sure many people on this forum are close to awakening this ability within themselves. This requires some notable spiritual progress in all cases I have witnessed it. Eventually, it seems quite probable to me that this direct transfer of emotional states will become the norm, but this will likely occur in the distant future. The best emotional state or spiritual experience you’ve had can be reproduced and directly shared with others, and it is 100% possible to perform healing and transmutation of emotions in this way too. A person who has developed this ability to a high degree could quite literally share the exact emotional experience of awakening with an atheist. It’s far easier to do this with others who have developed this already though. As with many types of miraculous phenomena, it’s something that happens automatically in most cases. To have conscious control over this takes a level of mastery which is quite rare, but it is certainly possible.

Contemplation is not a tool to be used for understanding alone. It should produce noticeable and relevant shifts in consciousness ideally. This is a ball of yarn you’ll be unraveling yourself. You are going in the right direction. Knowledge of Self or identity are typically the most fruitful focuses for contemplation. This video was quite useful for transforming my contemplation to be more effective.

The “poem” starts at 4:34. Mania in Bipolar Disorder- Defining My Experience with Mania This is just here to show you an important part of “my” memories which exist in my direct experience currently. This is certainly real to me as an awakening experience might be to you if we’re speaking dualistically. I’ve had many awakenings separate from this, and I must say that these are endogenous or natural mechanisms for a radically higher state of consciousness. It is the internal entheogen. It takes its host to a state so different it may be considered a significant ego death. This affects baseline levels of consciousness for months or even years if unattended. In most cases though, the condition will be attended to in some way. The individual will not sustain the radical nature of activity beyond a certain level of survival threshold needs. Eventually there will be a force from inside or your community or both pushing you to contain this state of consciousness. People who are peaceful enlightened gurus are not some ideal. Consciousness is raw. It’s often threatening to the ego or mostly collective ego/community ego. You can’t allow true expressive consciousness into society. Madness cannot rule. It would produce a reality so different than you’re capable of accepting. I guarantee if I existed in a state of true madness the entire world would turn against me. If I expressed that pure form of consciousness which is an inherent quality to reality itself, it is so much of a primary shadow anchor point that the shadow of nearly every human being would align against me. To become truly mad is one of your greatest fears whether you are conscious of it or not. The light in you wants to love and accept and include, but madness requires such an open and awakened heart to accept that one must be enlightened before acceptance of this quality of reality can even be possible. Your light must be immense to truly hold and become that part of reality. This isn’t to say people with mental illness have an advantage. We have ego-backlash from fear of our shadow worse than anyone when we see our shadow. Most bipolar 1 manics become traumatized by each experience. Life is essentially a permanent trauma between peaks of consciousness and depths of consciousness which are so jarring and disorienting it leaves you in a wounded state after each experience. Your suffering becomes so immense than you will either take steps to awaken or you will die. This is the whole source of mania. It’s the body and ego’s survival mechanism to overcome depression/suffering. It works well temporarily. Just how adrenaline might work well temporarily to save the body and ego. Eventually adrenaline will damage as mania does. PTSD is the life of a bipolar person. So many intimate parts of yourself and your shadow have been exposed to the public. This just pushes you further and further into spirituality. It’s the only coping mechanism that works. The ego has become addicted to killing itself as a form of inner purification. This allows one to stretch into so many new directions.

Namaste ❤️ I love you ❤️ You’re speaking Truth.

The infinite cannot be contained consciously within those who have not first fully realized infinity and true identity for themselves.

@Leo Gura “People without direct experience of God telling you about what he Christ is is like listening to a blind man about the beauty of sunsets.” Yes, this is perfectly correct. It does not contradict with the initial formulation. Of course God Consciousness is necessary to understand what Christ or anything else is, but direct experience of the phenomenon in question is important to truly have a well-rounded approach in understanding. You can have expert level understanding of the meta situation, but without an experience of the content, you cannot understand the content level of what is specifically occurring. As a fan of epistemology, I would hope you get this. To say you understand something in your current direct experience is one level of faith, to say you understand content which you have no contact with is very questionable. Ultimately, I do not know what you’ve experienced, but I know the outward representations of understanding between us are in a significant degree of distance from each other on this specific topic. There’s certainly more to be shown even after recognizing God Consciousness. It does not end, but it also really never becomes more complete than it currently is.

Be very careful giving advice about medication. You have to be more specific. Saving yourself 30 seconds of explanation may be the difference between death and life for someone on matters such as these.

People without direct experience of Christ telling you about what he is are like listening to a blind man about the beauty of sunsets.

The bliss you speak of is the Holy Spirit. It is what makes clairsentience or any other thing connected to energy transfer or healing possible. Don’t let the Christian nature of the term turn you off. I could call it spiritual telepathy or chakras or use many other lenses, but this is a very fitting one. This whole thread describes my journey to develop my Holy Spirit/clairsentience/telepathy/psychic abilities/energy healing/light work/etc...

This is certainly not the only time I’ve been in no-mind. It’s probably more common for me at this point than the state which previously felt to be different from no-mind. This was a time that I fully glimpsed the humorous nature of no-mind. The pleasant experience of no-mind often keeps one from noticing how ironic and humorous of an experience it truly is compared to what you thought was real. The reaction to turning consciousness in on itself to view the no-mind void and how it operates is at 1:03:50 into the video.

I usually don’t post that often. I’ve only been on here more since I’ve had time off due to a physical injury which keeps me on the couch.

Ultimately it is simply “everything.” It’s You. It’s God. But in this context, I’m mainly referring to emotional states which alter the metaphysical qualities to how existence feels to be. When you’re in intense physical pain, this could be said to be a state of consciousness. Notice the label “emotional states” doesn’t give a full picture. It’s hard to capture the nature of this elusive beast because at its core it is Nothingness itself. It can never be captured, yet you already have it simply because you are it. It is you. We call something a notable state of consciousness generally just because of how its feel is drastically different than other experiences. Everything is infinite, eternal, and perfect right here, right now as “consciousness.” This is true whether it’s a common state or radical state.

It’s ironic that a lifetime expert in grounding himself in reality is asking how to do it.

You still have an attachment for life if you posted this and are waiting a whole day before doing it. I wish you the best no matter what happens or where you go. Killing the body is no guarantee of less suffering though. That’s a projection-based story you’re telling yourself. Do you want to deal with suffering in an existence you understand and can control, or are you feeling lucky and ready to gamble? It’s all just a guessing game really.

Jesus’ Most Important Message (John 14:12) - Stage Turquoise Christianity The video, especially in the beginning/first half, uses Christian terms and concepts as to still be of interest to those in that belief system. I’m not arguing for anything taught in Christianity; this is merely a lens which could allow the belief system to manifest in a closer form to what Jesus appears to have intended. This is a synthesis of stage turquoise spiritual concepts and the Christian framework. It’s not a claim that this is all Absolute Truth. There are certainly limits to operating in this framework as with any other framework or belief system. The Bible verse which is the central theme for the video is John 14:12 which reads, “Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.” This is a useful verse for bridging the gap between modern forms of Christianity and awakening. Modern Christianity is typically a source of self hatred and degradation, whether it is subtle or gross, in the context sin is commonly discussed. Modern Christianity loves to tell people that they are nothing compared to Jesus and could never be. The man himself gave a message of divine empowerment the likes of which I have seen in no other religious or spiritual text. Jesus was so radical in this regard, but it gets overlooked. The message is quite clear. Believe in me and you can do anything I have done and greater things. This is quite a different tone than Yahweh had in the Bible. That was one of intense subjugation. Jesus seems to offer himself as a catalyst to be used for one to facilitate their own divine transformation. This is a summary of the video put in terms more popular on the forum: -Being in incredibly high states of God Consciousness or Liberation seems to be a prerequisite to be a believer according to what Jesus is discussing. These are just the kindergarten lessons to be learned in the framework he is speaking of. Many have achieved those steps, but how many have been capable of the works? -No human being currently believes to the degree Jesus claims here. Could anyone alive today truly call themselves a believer? -Jesus was not seeing his human incarnation above the capability of yours. -Jesus going to Godhead may be part of why these greater works are possible for you. -Hinduism, for example, has produced many stories of people closer to the capabilities and levels of development Jesus is describing here compared to Christianity. It could be said that these people, if the stories are true, are more true believers in Jesus than a stage blue Christian.