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I mostly agree with what you're saying. The biggest use I find with Spiral Dynamics or Integral Theory is being able to quickly and efficiently label those around me, whether they're 1st or 2nd tier thinkers. If I don't see 2nd tier qualities in someone, I typically don't care enough to form deep friendships, or pursue romantic relationships, for example. I don't think it's possible to identify third tier consciousness in the same way, unless you already know someone on a very deep level, and know what to look for. The biggest sign for me that someone is 2nd tier or higher is a level of mental calmness where they usually never get riled up about what's going on around them. This is generally more true for Turquoise and above, but can be for Yellow as well. 1st tier consciousness is completely incapable of this. Their level of well-being will always be directly tied to what's going on around them. I would disagree that Spiral Dynamics and Integral Theory are imaginary ego concepts. They can be, but they can also be very useful tools for assessing oneself and those around you. It's quite powerful to be able to know with certainty if someone is a 1st tier thinker or not, especially before deciding to form any kind of deep relationships with that person, be it romantic, business-related or a deep friendship.

@DLH It's not about being interested in labels, or "ego mind games". It's about wanting to share ideas and experiences. I just find it limiting to want to put an artificial barrier at Turquoise, when there is so much more.

I don't think there's much to gain from it. If someone is still supporting Trump they're either a fascist or uninformed.

@Marvelllious I would recommend that you block TechLead. He's a scam artist. Tech is arguably the most secure sector out there, currently. The need for good developers is only increasing. Either go the uni route, and/or build an actual enterprise application with some complexity and original features that has actual use cases for potential consumers, ideally one you can charge money for. If you showcase todo app number 10 million, you're not getting the job.

Since the test is limited to SD and doesn't account for 3rd tier, it's quite flawed and unfortunately incompatible with people centered in the 3rd tier (indigo, violet, ultraviolet, clear light). A great many of the "low SD" answers could actually be 3rd tier depending on how they're being interpreted. What's considered the peak in SD is like the initial baby steps of maturity in Integral Theory. Going from 2nd tier (Turquoise) to 3rd tier (Indigo) is when you start discarding every notion of self, every association. Then either you keep going until there is nothing left, or what's more likely, you return to second tier, giving in to every survival mechanism in your body going into full panic mode, in fear of dying. If you make it to the other side, you're now at Violet.

@Joshe Wow, he's trying to pay people to vote Trump? Surely that can't be legal? So Elon is going to buy the swing states? No way that's how the election will end. Is it just me or does this look like an insane gamble from Musk? Does he have that much to lose from Trump losing that he's willing to go to prison for him?

@Buck Edwards You cannot speedrun yourself to enlightenment. If one is overly dependant on any other person in hopes to advance spiritually, that's a sign for concern. Sadghuru cannot make you enlightened. Only you can do that, through years and years of hard work.

A sure way to get lost on the spiritual path is to outsource your meaning onto something external. Be it a god (idol worshipping), a guru or whatever else. This is a regression in spiritual growth. It's natural to seek for something or someone to blame, when the only one to blame is one self.

Most overrated movie? 2001: A Space Odyssey is certainly the most overrated movie I've ever seen. Painfully uneventful.

@blackchair Constantly feeling like one's misunderstood by everyone around you is the worst. Having a mental cap at stage red/blue would be fun, I suppose. "Live by the sword, die by the sword".

@Spiritual Warfare What I'm saying is that you'll gain nothing from being angry these people because of their faith. It's very unhealthy to be this obsessed with other peoples way of life. Why put so much effort into it when it won't change anything? I think people should get to preach what they believe in. I do believe in a free society after all, where people are free to speak their mind, even if I don't agree with what's being said.

Wouldn't be inconsiderate to just discard what makes other people happy? Not everyone is at the same developmental level. If the Christian faith makes them a happy and fulfilled human being then that's a good thing, don't you think? I see nothing inherently wrong with this, even if I'm not religious myself. If it gives them a sense of purpose in life, I think that's great.

@Spiritual Warfare Why do you bother to harbor such resentment towards a group of people based on their faith? What is it that triggers you so much about Christians in particular? Could there be any repressed aspects of yourself that you're afraid of exploring more thoroughly that's causing this reaction?

It's entirely possible to do both. The moment we stop criticizing we stop improving.

@ici Firstly, BlackRock doesn't control the market. They're a minority shareholder in more than 5000 different companies. They have no control over the management, policies or operations of the companies they're invested in. BlackRock is an asset manager. Their job is to invest on behalf of their clients. They don't actually own tens of trillions of dollars as far-right online conspiracy theorists may want you to believe. They strategically invest their client's assets across various markets in order to turn a profit. This is what an asset manager does. If you google "blackrock market cap" you'll see how much the company is actually worth. You can fit 25x BlackRock into the world's most valuable company, Apple.

Yes, there is a way. You could fry your electronics and go live by yourself off-grid. Then you get to live happily ever after in your little cave, free from the evil globalist agenda that's supposedly making your life so miserable. What you'll quickly come to realize is that you were full of shit this whole time, and that no one is out to get you or your loved ones. You're lucky enough to be living in the most prosperous time in human history, yet still you delude yourself into thinking that the system is somehow against you. Let me be brutally honest with you for just one moment here. No one owes you anything, least of all the system you're a part of. If you want to be successful in life you owe it to yourself to get out of the dark place you're currently finding yourself in. Go make something that's of value to people and you too will be successful. No one is out to get you.

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Yeah, I was left with the same impression. If you have to try to guess how the author intends for their questions to be interpreted, that's not something you can draw meaningful conclusions from.

@ici Take a look at this. These are your people. It actually pains me to think about how many people completely lost their ability to think because of one man.

Whether or not there is a larger thing at play, or just blind idol worshipping of Trump as the next messiah I don't know. I would like to think things will somewhat return to the norm once Trump is gone. I think it will take the republican party a long time to heal from Trump, which will cause a large power vacuum in US politics, which I too think is very dangerous for democracy.

I want to know that I did my part in helping assure Trump didn't assume power in 2024. If he became president despite that, then at least I can sleep well knowing I put in some good effort. Whether that is discussing Trump with people online, convincing others to do the same, or actively pushing content throughout social media through technical know-how, AI and automation.

I would demonize anyone that seeks to overthrow democracy, unless they've proved themselves extraordinarily capable to hold such a position, which is almost unheard of throughout history. I certainly would hope and expect the vast majority of citizens in developed nations to be pro-democracy as well. As for calling Trump names, what would be the point in that? And what would you even call him. There are to my knowledge no words in the English language that would do such a name calling justice. This is an individual that's committed the highest level of treason possible. The reason people are calling him Hitler is that we've ran out of words that appropriately describe him as a person, or people to compare him to. Calling him a Quisling would be more accurate, but most people have no idea who that is.

@What Am I What's the difference between being anti-establishment and being an anarchist? The fact that there are people out there that don't understand basic human nature is wild to me. There always has been, and always will be a small number of people that climb to the highest levels of power. If someone is anti-establishment what they're really saying is that they're anti human. I guess people are free to be anti what humanity has been about for the last 200 000+ years, but they're going to get nothing but ridicule from me.

I genuinely don't know if you're trying to make a joke or if you're being serious. Trump doesn't have any values or principles. His moral alignment is to accumulate influence and power for himself. He'd throw his family and everyone close to him under the bus if that meant he'd get his way. Without a second thought.