Fearey

I don't really see the need of a life coach. Surely there's no one better than oneself to determine what makes one tick.

The supposed "facts over feelings" gang, doing everything they can to change subject or attack the person whenever true factual statements are being brought up. Like for example, if you try to ask a Trump supporter what they think of January 6th. 99% of them will either disagree on the facts of what happened that day, or they will excuse Trump saying he didn't make them do what they did. If you keep going, they will usually get pretty mad at you, spin their own made-up version of what happened or change the subject. I think a small portion of his supporters actually know what he did, and know the facts, and support him anyway, because they are far-right fascists that want a dictatorship. The rest live in willful ignorance of what he's done, and will quickly lose it emotionally if you bring it up. Whether Trump wins or not, I think will be up to what portion of the American people is completely lost to the MAGA echo chamber. If not, then there should be a near zero percent chance that someone would vote for him, after all he's done. I'm optimistic that Trump is going to say enough stupid shit to completely swing this election in Kamala's favor.

I wouldn't worry about AI replacing developers any time soon. The need for knowledge workers is only going up, and we have no way of automating this beyond overly simple projects. We have nothing to indicate that that's even possible. It first needs to automate everything else. Arguably the only constraint there is energy production. We have to vastly enhance energy production if we are to take this technology to the next level.

What are you most fearful of, or what bothers you the most about America today? It seems to me that quite often, sympathy and support for Trump stems from an irrational fear that you believe he'd somehow solve if he became president. Trump knows this, and it's why he keeps saying he'll do all these great things if elected, while never elaborating on how he'd do it.

@questionreality A Trump supporter trying to claim moral high ground is quite funny to me. "On the one hand you bring up how Hitler killed 6 million jews in the gas chambers, but on the other hand you're fine with assassination of political opponents." Yeah... of course I am fine with that. What is your point?

Lost jobs seems to me a non-issue when you realize the potential upsides in productive output. In a world where humans are no longer needed for most kinds of labor, you simply won't have to get up in the morning if you don't want to. You can pursue whatever you want, whenever you want. AI seems to me to be the natural next step in our evolution, and it also seems the only way to solve world hunger, large-scale wars and climate change. Every physical need being taken care of however, is going to be a very radical change for most people, and a large portion of people are going to need to learn to find meaning within themselves. I see depression rates skyrocketing as a result, but also an increased level of life satisfaction for the average person. We already have the technology to automate the overwhelming majority of jobs out there, the cost-effectiveness just isn't there yet for businesses to be willing to implement this technology on a wide scale. I think it's unfortunate that so many people are afraid of this technology.

@shenanigans +1 for that. Obsidian is one of my favorite pieces of software. It being free and open-source is the cherry on top. Definitely worth checking out.

Absolutely. He managed to grant himself full immunity for his actions on January 6th, ensuring he cannot be convicted for essentially trying to steal the country. It's not like he didn't put himself in this predicament of his own free will. No wonder people are trying to kill him. I actually think that is a sign of a healthy democracy that people don't just bend over for a tyrant that tried to overthrow their country. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. In the super long-term however, trying to maximize chaos is probably the healthiest option for developing robust systems of governance for the future.

You could utilize AI models to turn your hand-written notes into digital form to also have them stored digitally, not having to worry about one day losing your work. Shouldn't take too much effort to set up.

If you consider that he committed the gravest of treason when he tried to overturn a democratically held election, maybe it's not so immoral after all to wish for his death. For all we know he might've been put on death row if he didn't receive immunity from the supreme court.

Name a president of the democratic party that's committed treason against their own country. He's committed the most serious of crimes against his nation. A successful attempt on his life would be 100% justified. The difference between a Trump supporter and one who is not is being able to independently research Trump for 3 minutes. That would be enough for any rational human being to make up their mind about what Trump is.

Trying to overturn democracy by instating an insurrection against your country is treason. The punishment for treason under U.S. Code Title 18 is death or not less than 5 years' imprisonment. Any person convicted of treason against the United States also forfeits the right to hold public office in the United States. Committing treason as the sitting president of your country should of course be an exponentially more serious crime. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be too many guard rails in place to limit how much a sitting president can abuse their power. It might just be that someone out there is tired of this wannabe dictator getting away with everything just because he's a former president, and wants to give him what he deserves; a long overdue end.

Trump still having any relevancy in 2024 is to me proof that a large portion of humanity is nothing more than apes running on autopilot with zero reasoning capabilities. It would be hard to justify referring to them as human beings, and not just an inferior life form. Perhaps democracy needs to be reworked for its own continued survival, excluding people proven to be unable to think critically from voting on any issue. Then you'd never get into a situation like this in the first place.

Hopefully this debate opened the eyes of a not too insignificant number of people as to how unhinged Trump is, and consequently, how unhinged that makes them for following, or having blindly followed someone like Trump for so many years, after all he's done. "The forest was shrinking but the trees kept voting for the Axe, for the Axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them."

Hi guys. I'm Fearey and I've been a long time lurker of the forum. I started watching Leo back in 2012, and transitioned from being interested in self-help work, to consciousness work back in 2014. I've been following most of Leo's content up until 2019. I still watch some of his content from time to time. Few seem as dedicated to providing quality content and explaining it in a thorough manner as Leo. I'll always be grateful for that. With regards to the post title and SD stages in general, I consider the process of trying to find the true nature of self (the process of self-transcendence) to start at SD stage Coral / integral stage Indigo. What follows, having transcended the self, being the entering into SD stage Teal / integral stage Violet. Going through the later stages of Coral was a very depressive, painful experience for me personally. Dwelling into nihilism was commonplace. Not just simple depression, but an all-encompassing, existential dread. Feeling like you're slipping out of existence. It was a weird thing to let go of assumptions and beliefs I had held about myself all throughout my life. Assumptions I had already accepted as fact long ago. What followed, however, was a powerful sensation of peace and belonging. To explain my process of moving from Coral to Teal I'd tell you to imagine taking away all the parts of yourself that makes you you. Then witnessing the remaining emptiness/nothingness that's left as the self somehow becoming something more than what you had before. Note: I'm entirely open to the possibility that my interpretation of SD/integral stages with regard to self transcendence could be flawed, or incorrect. I've been lurking the forums for some time and I'm well aware about the grudges held about people mentioning or claiming to be at stages past Turquoise, as there seems to be so little understanding of these stages, making such claims seem unfounded. I'm not coming from a place of bragging, I'm simply interested in sharing my own personal experience with like minded individuals. Having experienced the completely altering shifts in being that comes from entering a state of obsessively trying to solve the question of self, to the even bigger shift that comes as a result of actually being successful in it, finally transcending the self, leaves me quite certain that both of these represent stages of development past stage Turquoise on the spiral. I could be wrong, however. To close, for any tier 2 individuals highly interested in consciousness work, I'd very much recommend The Book of Not Knowing and The Genius of Being. Both are books written by Peter Ralston and will take you on a journey down the deep end of self-realization. Both has helped me tremendously, and I consider them two of the most impactful books I've ever read.

@asifarahim I try to dedicate about 2 hours daily whenever possible, plus two 1-2 week long solo retreats annually. Been doing the retreats for the past 3 years. They're pretty basic and pretty much just consists of me living alone in my cabin in the mountains. I allow myself no distractions such as the use of phones, watching TV, using PCs etc, and spend a great deal of my time there just experiencing nature, as well as contemplating various topics.

@asifarahim Not including the spiritual, around 3-4 hours per day on average. Used to be more.

@Swarnim I suppose it could be. Turquoise is vast, and it could just be that this is all contained within that one stage. I still think the shifts I've experienced when entering what I perceive to be Coral is too different to be part of Turquoise, but I guess that's up for interpretation, as there's very little to go on regarding what comes after Turquoise. Thank you @Swarnim and everyone else who's commented and read my post. I'm glad I got to share some of my experiences.

@blackchair I can't recall exactly what did it for me, so I don't think I can give much useful advice on the matter. If I recall correctly, going from Turquoise to Coral was like moving into a sudden, almost obsessive need for self discovery. As if a huge piece of myself all of a sudden had gone missing, and had to be found, so as to not lose myself. Generally speaking, always being truthful to yourself, about yourself, no matter how difficult and draining things become typically helps for me when the going gets tough. Riding out the storm, so to say. I think it varies greatly from person to person how best to progress up the spiral.

"Before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood, carry water."