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@Girzo for me the best ROA for this Chemical is vaping. I experimented with plugging but I needed 120+ mg for a decent trip. Also tried oral but only did 75 mg and felt nothing, didn't wanna waste too much substance. Just saw on https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/DPT that the oral threshold starts at 50mg and a common dose ranges btw 150 - 250mg, might be worth trying out for research but I assume that for this base tryptamine smoking is the most efficient ROA.

funny video, of stage blue spirituality In my younger years i have attended a event with him.?

@Leo Gura salvia 80x extract is the preferred psychedelic for two of my friends, they seem to really enjoy the salvia realm. Sometimes I wonder if certain people have just the right Genetics to work with certain drugs and get great experiences and insights.

@Leo Gura totally get that you don’t wanna be demonized for your raw content. But your psychedelic videos on YouTube and your blog really helped me, giving myself permission to explore different states and different substances in a somewhat safe way. How about posting some of your more raw content on Patreon. So you can only talk to your core audience. Plus the pepole that are willing to pay are the pepole that probably most appreciate your content already.

@GroovyGuru imagine how amazing your life is gonna be in 4 years and you will feel so grateful for that 200$ investment that changed your life?

@Leo Gura i get ur point that it takes a long time to evolve society. Yet we never had technology that connected the whole world which enables a level of communication at a speed that was never there before. My prediction is that we see a major part of the American population moving into green in the next 20 years. And at least a small but significant amount into tier 2 ( mostly yellow ). Reason for this timeframe is the urgent need to transform our society for more sustainability, tackling climate change etc. humanity will step up to the challenge ( because we wanna survive? ). Anyways not saying technology is the savior, but it is one of the most promising tools for humans to evolve and solve problems and it could really accelerate human evolution.

I get that pepole have there perspective. But a kid walks down the road with an assault style weapon which is illegal for a minor ( according to local laws ) and gets encouragement from law enforcement. He actually ends up killing pepole. While a father gets shot in the back multiple times infront of his kids for allegedly possessing a knive. Which seems to me that equal justice doesn’t truly exist ( which it probably never will but we can definitely make it more fair for everyone). I guess im trying to say racial justice is a deep rooted problem that needs some serious overhauls.

Yeah, maybe in a monastery. But I can’t imagine, you can be effective and functional in a modern world beeing just pure awareness. But maybe the opposite is true!

Found this on a Forum and it resonated with personal experiences. Its a nice model that helps me understand psychedelic/meditative experiences I had. Anyone else relates to this?

I heard that now a couple of times on diffrent forums. That pepole who broke trought on 5 meo get no visuals anymore on nn-DMT and have the same experience as you are reporting. Do you have any assumptions or explanation why?

Wow, was reading this and got really inspired to keep pursuing this work. Thank you so much for sharing this! + you are an amazing writer!

Great trip report! Thank you for sharing. considering trying this substance out.

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Candy edibles are not as potent as for example brownies or chocolate edibles with equal amount of THC. High Fat helps the body to absorb THC way more efficient. Plus I only trust legal products, when it comes to edibles. Most black and grey market sellers are super inconsistent when it comes to edibles and correct dosages. You can increase your dose by 10mg everytime and work your way up, till you reach your desired effect.

@Arzack yes, from my experience plugged DPT lasts btw 2-4 hours (depends on amount as well). And 5 meo lasts for me about 20 min. For me, 5 meo tops everything for non dual work (especially when smoked). With 5 meo you can do back to back trips in one session. But with DPT I noticed a tolerance build up. Anyways, with 5 meo dmt, you have an amazing tool at hand. I never had another psychedelic that is as powerful.

Trip Report Yesterday I took 40 mg of 4 ACO DMT. I took it orally. As a side note, I enjoy the weirdness and sometimes mindfuck this substance can give me. The come up was really intense and I had just to lay flat on the floor, but once I got adjusted to the substance It's really beautiful to contemplate on it. Here are a couple of ideas that I tried to put into the English language, which feels hard sometimes because language can be limiting. How can we have an unbiased view? Since all our beliefs opinions are invented and created by us. So are we just hallucinating reality? It seems that way. Our body and what we currently identify with tries to keep us alive. So then we create an illusion, to keep our limited self alive. And what is this limited self, a highly complex machine that has a job and its job is to give us a sense of self so we can identify with that and stay alive and survive as a construct. In the experience, I became aware of how consciousness/energy is trapped in the brain. And the brain then directs this energy in loops and thought patterns. Those patterns are what I would call in my normal state of consciousness as myself. I am just and Idea a relative concept that is created to give me this limited localized experience as me. Like light shines through a diamond and gets split in different rays of light, the same way consciousness is the light that lights up the brain and creates the illusion of different colors, sounds, emotions, perceptions, etc. And lets the one source of everything experience itself as everything. Ego is the point of reference, how can we experience a separate reality if there is not a pattern or a reference point. Plus what is the point of a separate reality? A complex game of hiding and seeking. Like creating a video game and then experience the created world from the view of a certain character. Plus one major thing that psychedelics keep teaching me, is to be more authentic and less trapped in my Ideas of myself and in past experiences. And psychedelics give just such a beautiful glimpse of what it means to love yourself and the world, and how pure acceptance feels like. Thank you for reading my report

@Tanz Yeah 4 ACO DMT has in my experience strong visuals that last throughout the whole trip. -Insights come mostly after 1 hour after taking the substance. But they mostly come when I have settled into the experience after the come up. -Tripping with 4 ACO lasts mostly 5 hours for me, but I get tired after the Trip in contrast to LSD where you feel energized for a while after.

@Leo Gura That would make sense that the brain is imagined inside of consciousness. But what creates physical reality and what allows us to experience physical reality as a separate being?

Wow, so cool to hear them talk about 5 Meo. @Girzo yeah, I wondered about that too. His ego was fighting for an hour, before breaking trough. Thank you for sharing, great and encouraging conversation!

Yeah, 5-Meo-Dmt makes other psychedelics more intense. So be careful because you may wanna reduce dosages for future trips. This is just my experience, but when you feel like if you fall asleep you gonna die, fall asleep and die! since it’s mostly the ego trying to hold on and trying to control the experience. Take your time to integrate the experience. But remember that psychedelics are a powerful and helpful tool! Cool trip report thanks for sharing!

@Leo Gura Really Interesting! SO I basically I have to lower the doses of the other psychedelics I took pre-5-MEO-DMT and work my way up again? ( sounds like BC and AD excepted it would be before and after 5-meo) And in your, opinion would you work exclusively with 5-meo for a while and explore the substance without using other psychedelics, since it seems to affect the sensitivity to other psychedelics? Or did you find it beneficial to use other substances as well, while start working with 5-meo-DMT?

About a week ago I plugged around 110mg DPT ( measured with Microscale). And had a very positive experience. I took the next day 32mg of 4 ACO DMT orally, which also was extremely beneficial and very cleansing experience. SO no more Psychedelics for the Week because I was planning on taking 5 Meo DMT on Friday for the very first time. So on Friday, I plugged 18 mg right after work because I was really excited. Fucking Terrifying because I Felt Like I was being dissolved, didn't break through ( also wasn't planning on it ) still the substance told me how to work with it to breakthrough in the future and that I should stick with that dose for a bit, to learn and become familiar with that terror that I felt from dissolving and investigate who is afraid. Anyways getting to the point: I plugged Today 80 mg of DPT. My intention was to get cleansed from egoic patterns. The Trip was for more Intense than the 110 mg from the previous week, felt like it was a completely different substance. Instead of feeling more empty ( which I enjoyed to just be ) it felt a lot more like a mix btw shrooms and LSD showering over me, plus It felt like my brain was being intensely rewired. ( don't take it literally it is just how I experienced it during the Trip ) Anyone has experienced that even after a threshold dose of 5 MEO DMT, other Psychedelics become more intense or change there character? Or is it just because I wanted something different with my intention I got such a more different and intense trip?

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Ok plugged again 70mg, but this time I used a 5ml syringe ( used a lot of Lube ). And it was a way more intense experience than the last time I plugged 70+ mg DPT. I think more water helped my rectum absorb the substance better. The trip had pretty strong visuals but the body load seemed manageable. @Girzo yeah, I got to try to make freebase out of it. Really appreciate your feedback helps a lot. Staying right now in Switzerland so I am trying to find baking soda and no store seems to have it, so I probably wait with that till I am back in the states.

After a couple of attempts to plug DPT I took the advice i got in the forum and smoked DPT and just did it. 30 mg weight out and good Lord above, it worked so much better than plugging for me. Come up took about 3 minutes but after 10 minutes i was already peaking. Also I didn’t convert it into freebase since I read Online from a bunch of pepole that HCL worked fine for them. And it worked fine for me. Only downside is the chemical taste and it made me nauseous. But still it was worth it for me. Excited to start working my way towards a higher dose with this substance. Since i think I found a Route of Administration that works well for me. Thank to all the pepole who helped me figure this out.