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@Chakra Lion I don’t love Biden, I am rather left wing In my Political views and Biden isn’t going to make big systemic change, but I can tell you there won’t be 2 parties much longer and also Biden is just a stepping stone to a progressive, trump is much worse than Biden on many things and it’s not even close I will be voting dem until there is a nationally viable third party. but there is not way to undermine and obligation the oligarchy if republicans and democrats are equivocated. The dems have actually socialist in their party ( few) and no Republican will likely ever legalize marijuana or psychs before the dems and progressives advocate for it first. yes dems are corrupt but to a lesser degree, and some dems aren’t even corrupt at all I can name at least 6. I vote down ballot progressive as much as I can as well, we are making progress in congress and have a couple senators too

@TruthHurts yea gotta look out for BLM or antifa, they might kidnap the governor!

there is a reason stage turquoise people by and large don’t eat meat, it’s connected with the energy of the body in some way and also what you eat becomes your nature and there is no life energy in dead food. As sadhguru says “I like to eat based on how alive the food is” yes we are harming plants too, but they are alive when we eat them and the plants want us to eat them in sense, they want to proliferate and providing fruits and vegetables helps them proliferate the plant itself and it’s roots and consciousness, all life simply wants to live on this planet, and when we kill to eat without necessity it has negative impact also a good point is that when you are eating fruits and vegetables you aren’t eating the whole plant so you’re not really killing it, plants/trees don’t die if you pick their fruit.

Increase division and decrease love and compassion and consciousness, delegitimize the media, delegitimize the election, demonize people who disagree with him, support Putin, ask foreign governments to spy on political opponents, like you mentioned ruin covid, deny science and evidence, tear bomb and gas people to take a picture with a Bible etc etc etc grab women by the pussy, make fun of the disabled, insult prisoners of war, refuse to commit to transitioning power of their is a loss, attack governors etc etc etc, incite violence, ban Muslims and take away trans rights etc etc I could go on if you want

As much as I hate to say it, he dominated Super Tuesday with having set a foot in most of the states, people in america vote like a cult sadly

@Leo Gura it’s like not even hate of trump it’s just when you break up with an ex and she starts to let herself go but you can’t interfere in anyway and you see her destroying herself from within and it’s not her new boyfriends fault although he has a huge part of the blame, it’s almost like we hate trump because we love what the government used to be and now it’s so hollow it’ll take years to get the stink out of our mouths. trump makes the neoliberalism of Biden and obama look like Moses parting the red sea

@No Self the loudest voices are the ones you see or read, there is still a lot of level heading people among the cults, why do I care what someone devoid of reality cares about truth. It’s all subjective to some degree anyway but there’s never going to be a time in history where you can make an appearance to reason to these types of people you’re describing XD. Still think fact checking is important, it’s more significant when tweets can have sources or citations options or independently verified with standards like Wikipedia. Twitter gets a lot of shit of course and it’s not there yet but it could be, this is a great first step

@Parththakkar12 it has to have independent standards. Look up an ombudsman, is sort of like that

Great thread! I have my own ideas which mind you aren’t heavily research but come from a more intuitive sense. I’m hung up on currency and how to make currency better, we want to make the world a a better place and invest in better companies and the banking systems are really corrupt so I’d have to say we eventually have to revolutionize our currency, does it always have to be m1/m2 (paper/gold/bonds/ credit cards connected to a bank, could you do a social credit system - like China but was less authoritarian(less 1984 more Star Trek) I sort of like the Star Trek idea, credits for pooping, sleeping well, eating healthy, walking around, making love etc. this is a turquoise idea or maybe a high yellow one, I doubt turquoise would have currency at all. employment is the biggest issue and we need to first pay people a ubi or at least a living wage for even the crappiest job and make sure big banks charge lower interest to consumers because they barely if ever charge interest to each other, I don’t like the idea of credit scores and maybe they can be improved an reformed, and I don’t like the idea of accruing medical or educational debt of any kind. maybe ^ this needs to be done before a revamp to currency but yea I like this thread and your ideas. I think via the law of attraction and so it makes sense that when you are in alignment with your life purpose and having fun in your work and life that more abundant energy will pour out of you attracting the same energy to you. maybe that’s too woo woo but in my direct experience is 100% accurate, I think finance as it’s taught is also maybe too cold and dead and maybe in a higher society “spiritual wealth” can be taught. also with money I think eventually shifting the conversation from “ taxation is theft” to “fair taxation” is our duty is a great goal

@Leo Gura I’ve always loved the ideals of communism/socialism, but feel like it can be improved upon/made more pragmatic/marketed better by a creative visionary thinker, I’d love to create/improve a system which is kind of a spiral wizard government that identifies a the need for balance between the collective and individual aspects of human society as its core philosophy kind of like what the us government was getting at with the checks and balances. buckminster fuller/Venus project is a nice inspiration and end goal but the means need to be achieved and I guess the only way to do that is to study through experience which is something a lot of philosophers and economist that created these systems did not do. getting off topic but yea white supremacy or the proud boys don’t care about looking forward, perspective jumping, or problem solving, ethnic/nationalist/stage blue toxicity/ white supremacy primarily cares about subjugation....not liberation and commiseration/love/truth/consciousness which I believe should be the ideals of humanity, these aren’t socialist or communist they are just the human heart and that’s where the marketing needs to be improved.

It’s hard to believe all these teachers who come to same conclusions - ralston, sadhguru, this guy and others hate on psychs so much by focusing on the physiological aspects of it. I’m guessing most of them just realize it’s a state and then say you cannot gain anything from it because it’ll go away, but isn’t a “human” life the same way just way longer? there’s certainly potential damages and meditation is a lot safer and I’m not wise enough to say it won’t affect my energy systems in an adverse way but I suppose if you want to cut to the truth at all costs regardless of potential damages to your human body then they are for you. i certainly want to try psychs a couple times but I am afraid that they can harm the physiology of the body and the energy systems etc. probably not more than a bad diet and other vices.... and really if you’re conscious enough I do believe you can heal yourself of any potential damage. it certainly sucks to see so called “enlightened people” shitting on them having said all of this I doubt I’ll have the balls to do dmt/salvia and other radical psychs but I will most like regret it if I don’t.

@Leo Gura working on this. It’s certainly does make a difference, seeing how your body absorbs a lot of the water in the shower, but you probably already know. It’s definitely worth the money.

@Chris365 this is true, but also your body is deeply intertwined with your consciousness and energy, at least on one level it is.

@wk197 it’s a matter of degrees. Be careful speaking for others.

@StephenK while I agree with your point, I don’t see how they are the same, communism could be high consciousness or low consciousness, it still is an ideology which you shouldn't buy completely into, but I don’t lump in white supremacy anywhere near as close. You can point to leaders (Stalin, mao etc)and the blood on their hands but if you read Marx and then read say David duke there is a distinct difference in the level of consciousness. criticizing from above vs criticizing from below maybe communism is inherently flawed and cannot function in this century or the next but I like the ideals of it for sure. I’m not so much of a pragmatist to say that since it can’t be done in 2020 to forget about it. white supremacy however has been proved to be very toxic and oppressive many many more times than any one Stalin or mao or Chavez could ever do

@Preety_India well you have to believe it to think it’s a threat. It’s like the first step of Alcoholics Anonymous, you have to admit you have a problem before you can work through it kyle Kulinski made a great analogy the other day saying that trump is the coach in sports that if you’re down 20 points in the fourth quarter would just say you’re not really losing and doing a good job, which is what is so disastrous, a good coach would admit you’re down 20 what adjustments you need to make to come back and motivate you to do it.

@Forestluv i think you do a great job of perspective jumping and are a good healthy example of yellow/strategist from reading your posts for a little over a year. I feel like this thread was pretty honest and loving regard trump tbh, onky one person explicitly wished suffering on him(apparently as a hypothetical) and basically I said I agree with whatever nature does. also I asked myself would what a highly conscious persons, a saint would do in this situation, well I think they would express love and compassion for trump. they would also condemn his leadership and say he needs to change while giving that love, which is what I believe the forum has nailed, I still think we are quite conscious people, it’s hard to detach from emotional catharsis that comes from people wanting karmic comeuppance schadenfreude and all that, but I think we have. I could be wrong. I don’t think anyone would deny that the ACB hearing without masks and social distancing was irresponsible and that is the result like it or not, a potential super spreader

I stand corrected. Pakman is definitely more of an Elizabeth Warren progressive which is fine, and I like his mature approach but sometimes he comes off like a Pete buttigieg supporter to me. yea I wouldn’t mind it if the centrists of tomorrow look like pakmans of today. I don’t want everyone to be a socialist but I certainly want people in this country to worry about a bit more than money, probably going to need a bunch of fixes but it starts by seeing how much better Biden will do compared to trump Netflix just came out with a great 3 part series on voting “voting explained” and it delves into why democrats have been losing so much, mostly because they have to win by huge margins to win elections because of gerrymandering electoral college etc

@Leo Gura the fringe left seems a lot better than the fringe right. The fringe left might offend you on Twitter or go to a neo nazi rally to punch a nazi or destroy some property, but it’s rare that they kill anyone, where as the fringe right is nearly always just fascism and executions. Not say I’m taking sides but it just seems like one side is a bit more toxic, vaush is a good guy, I listen to his content and I think he has a rather developed political perspective, but sometimes he can go overboard haha. Would still prefer listening to him over a more centrist David pakman but sometimes the sensationalist edginess has its day as well as the centrism has its day i can’t stand people equivocating Biden and trump like a lot of leftists and I also don’t like people licking Obama’s boots

@Leo Gura fair enough. I misspoke, I guess he just wants to WIN and I can’t blame him the us hasn’t had an organized political left and it’s real power since like the 1920s. But I read his chats and I really don’t like what I see but I guess it’s just par for the course

@Lyubov this shit is crazy man, all of Capitol Hill should be quarantining

The more and more I think of this, the more that I realize that some leftists are toxic and want to win at all costs, like vaush, and then others care more about decorum and principles and honor, like Biden and your typical democrats, and then you have someone in the middle like an aoc or Bernie who I think does the balancing act really well, they are certainly not a doormat but they also don’t make it vicious like trump. It’s tough to find that balance but I would say a more conscious mind would at least be trying to balance it out

@Preety_India you have good takes! And we need more conscious political commentary.

Very good news, but also we need fact checkers. Fact checker should be a new job lol

Just wanted to clarify on my post earlier. I certainly DONT want to trump to die, but if he dies I won’t question reality for one second. leo you made a good point, I don’t know if america is built to deal with an attempt at stealing an election. And maybe this is the only way it can avoid it, like we’re all know it’s a conscious mind and Ramana Maharishi said that the creator will take care of its creation meaning that the long game will always work out. I was also just commenting that trump has blundered the us so badly that people are questioning his ability to tell the truth about his own life threatening disease. also it was very telling to me that people had to be explicitly warned to not wish or celebrate the death or suffering of someone, where as I feel with certain other public figures and celebrities it just goes without saying and you don’t have to start banning people for most events of this nature. it’s just crazy how much of a polarizing year 2020 has been and it’s certain it been entertaining to say the least. I do feel for the that innocent child in trump too but I also believe the man cannot be president and if this is the way it happens so be it, I think we have all been giving a response to something of this effect which is the appropriate response. ideal situation to me is that he recovers and loses in a landslide and doesn’t have the legal authority to make a worthy challenge. sorry if I came off nasty I wish love one everyone but also I wish truth on everyone and yes I know they are the same but it feels like I need to clarify in this context