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No one is entitled to a response from anyone else. Though i can understand feeling frustrated by that. And I get you liked the dude, but this is getting tin foil hat like with regards to his ban. I wish the dude the best but the dude was acting like some sort of satirical spiritual cartoon character.

I get your concerns man. And I agree there is a place for allowing cult accusations, and I agree that suspiciousness could arise. But you aren't acknowledging that many of the accusations are either bad-faith or very unreasonable

Wow that was quite the poetic sentence . And yes that is a fair point.

Come on man. You make a reasonable argument before this and then make this Nahm argument again. i don't mean to be rude but this Nahm argument is a bit ridiculous. As I alluded to in my previous comment, the guy was giving cartoonishly bad advice in his mod position.

You make fair points, assuming the non-duality ban thing is true. Except for the point about Nahm. Nahm deserved the demotion. A guy could've been homeless, on food stamps and asking about how to find a job, and Nahm would've told him it was just a thought. Leo demoting him was very reasonable. And Leo was very lenient with him and gave him many chances.

I can get the frustration and irritation that unreasonable cult accusations must bring. And you have every right to call out their bs. I would find it exhausting and rage-inducing myself. And it annoys me when I see people make unreasonable or bad faith accusations agaist you. You have done good work over the years to ensure actualized.org doesn't become cult-ish, and improved your communications on the forum as you said you would. I have made criticisms of your actions before, but it is only fair I give you credit where it is due. Some only appear to want to do the former. That said, I can also understand the push-back on this thread. I think it would be right to mention that it is the unreasonableness of the accusations that you are against. Or that you will ban if the accusations are unreasonable, or clearly driven by bad-faith motivation. Being around here for a while I can understand where you're coming from but I could see a youtuber seeing this as an easy chance to jump to a negative conclusion and attack you. But also given the topics discussed here I don't think its right to completely close the door on cult criticisms being allowed. A middle ground could be to make it a ban based on unreasonable, or bad faith cult accusations. Or a ban on cult criticisms on normal threads, and then there is a feedback thread that opens once a week, say on a sunday, where people could make criticisms. And you could do it where they need to make the criticism in a certain format. And if they don't then its bannable. But again, I can understand not wanting to deal with the bs anymore.

I get what you're saying about the lack of agency. I see your point regarding the shift away from what you can influence. That said, red pill does have a fair amount of agency too. They do focus on taking action to become a high-value guy. It isn't black pill.

I can understand why you see it as dangerous. I definitely agree that a substantial amount of it is dangerous. Particularly due to hateful fiigureheads like Tate and Fresh n Fit. That said there is a fair amount of truth in red pill ideas, like 40% of it. If mainstream stuff keeps being delulu about how attraction works then its understandable that alternative sources will help people meet the needs.

Not sure. Except I'll restate the point about red pill being much more abstract. I don't know how they differ content wise. The red pill stuff does seem like a lot of cope around avoiding cold approach though. I wouldn't be unempathetic to that if they were just honest about that. Pick up is rough. There seems like there are more higher-ideals in pickup too. Its more lets make life epic compared to the bitterness of red pill

No. Pickup is way closer to the truth than red pill. I mean its night and day. Red pill has some very good parts but also a lot of circle-jerk theorising to it. The major difference is pickup theory is derived from guys going out, trying stuff and seeing what worked. Then making theories based on those real-world experiences. Red pill is a lot more abstract theorising. And that lack of real world experience is bound to lead to more deluded theory.

Good stuff man. I agree

They carry the energy to try and attract me. However, I am busy playing minecraft nowadays. So, they train their energy higher to try and overcome my commitment to the game.

No idea which video it was. I think it might have been from a product.

You DARE disagree with me?! Kidding kidding I get what you're saying. The image of a caveman in a cave with a club isn't exactly every girl's dream. But if you re-read my posts I made room for how people's life experiences and circumstances affect the make-up of a high value guy. And a caveman nowadays would have many of their behaviours and choices end not in positive social outcomes but negative ones. And then there behaviour would adapt to those negative outcomes and imply to girls negative life experiences, and hence he wouldn't be a high-value guy today. So, the model accounts for the caveman in the modern day critique.

Hahahaha. Third times the charm, and I'm flattered that you remember our last encounter so well.