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Appreciate it *Forgives*

Glad you see me as in touch with my feminine side

Tell me again how bad I am 😈

Well... that was quite something to read

That makes some sense to me. For example, in 2000s a girl had the options of her social circle or whoever approached her. But now she has that plus the whole of fucking instagram. So, her options are much higher. However, if it is harder to get hotter girls via cold approach today, I suspect another likely reason is due to where a lot of game is today. Nowadays a lot of game is more natural and less technical. But I suspect the technical game was helpful with the hottest girls because it would allow for value adjusters like dis-qualifiers. Said value adjusters could switch the balance of perceived value in the interaction better.

I get you bro. Its very understandable to skeptical of Pickup. It sounds like the biggest fucking scam of all time. "Yes, every dude can get game so good they can date the hottest models." and then you think of the dude from high school who used to lick windows and you think yeah fucking right lmao. But a lot of this shit makes a big difference in my experience. And you have "Aha!" moments. For example, loads of dudes think ok the girl is deciding whether to choose me or not, i better impress her. But with pick up you can flip that on its head and instead YOU become the decider, where she is trying to impress you. And then its a whole different ball game.

My bruddah i think the advanced pickup dudes are... ever so slightly... outperforming your slacklining results

@Valach That makes sense. All best with your goals man

Hahaha that is a cheeky one ;). Remind me of one I saw on tiktok. "Would you date me if I wasn't gay" "Yes" "Well I'm not gay" SO FUNNY HAHAHA

@Valach I have some confusion around your skill-level in game. Are you someone who got skillful via game then stopped?

Most girls seem terrible at passing shit tests too. I learnt from Todd how to do it recently. I find it very funny trying out hot girl frames/ lines on women. I remember using "If you want to date me you need to wine or dine me for at least three dates" on a girl. It was SO funny to me

If I can find it, I'll link you a podcast by Todd about this exact topic.

LOOOL

How come people keep approaching? You wearing fake tits or something?

Commit to something and commit to mastery in it. Once you have that mastery pick some missions. I've committed to cyber security so that would mean mastery there. I could do things like running cybersecurity for political candidates or critical infrastructure or all sorts of things. Hacking a terrorist organisation and stopping the next 9/11 would probably be a little helpful too lol. An example of the impact of cybersecurity on mature development is the Hilary Clinton email scandal. Just prior to the 2016 US election there was a large leak of Clinton's emails which caused a significant amount of reputational damage to Clinton, and perhaps swung the election. So a better cybersecurity team might have meant no Trump.

My name is Cindy in this scenario btw

Man, respectfully, I hate AI films

Lol I'm quite interested by this idea for some reason. Could be fun

That is a fair point. In some ways to me game is a hobby, where in I mostly enjoy learning what works and why. That suits Todd's style. I am doing only online atm. And a few dates but no sex. So I can't speak on efficiency. Online game has been an interesting adventure though. I had basically a massive setback in life around dropping out of university and many things fell apart for me. My in person game also was so much effort for little reward. And found it quite damaged my self-concept. Also my motivational circuits really shut down around game because of the loss of confidence from these. So I stopped irl game. Anyhow, after stopping i would always get annoyed/ inspired at myself and try to motivate myself to try game again but I found I could not do so. However, i watched a video of doing what you could do rather than should do, and decided I could give online game a try. So, I started going on tiktok lives and talking to the girl streamers to practice and also to learn the steps of the todd model. Because although laughable it was better than nothing lol. Anyhow, I first started with my previous idea of self-amusement which didnt do much. But then I found I could actually really start to have an impact there with all these todd tactics, despite these girls getting hit on all the time. It was pretty exciting. 99% of them live too far away but it has shown me there is at least some added effectiveness of the techniques online. Of course this is very far away from irl cold approach but some of the same key dynamics apply.

i get the too much work thing. I can see why that would be a turn off. From using that frame, I've seen how it really make a girl WAY more interested compared to not using it. So from an effectiveness stand point it can have a powerful effect on a girl's interest in you.

Fairs. If you had an unfulfilling experience with it then i get why you find it limiting. I actually have a similar view that it is very stage-orange and is a journey to be eventually transcended. A big part of my motivation is to integrate more stage orange. But without integrating stage orange things like success with women, it will eat at us and limits in many other ways. So to me it is either avoid it and have some benefits but ultimately make yourself stuck, or go through the journey and then when the lessons and experiences have been earnt you choose to transcend it.

Ok it seems you want to talk about the new topic. I am interested in it now too, so let's see where this goes. Right now, with only those two choices, I would pick 1.

Thank you man. I appreciate that. I get you will have based that answer on experience. So i value what you say. But I would struggle with how actionable that sequence is.

Yes. I tried that a lot. Found it not very effective with women. But again you are talking about a different topic. Emotional well-being and the effectiveness of different game-styles are very different. I want to talk about the latter.

Well now you are making assumptions. And are talking about a different topic.