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Haha its Indian cricket league! Best cricket league in the world.

I eat snack bar, and some chicken bites for breakfast, with a coffee. For lunch, I am trying to have a chocolate Huel drink, and a relaxing drink. Dinner maybe a sandwich from the shop. Weekends I am a bit of a degenerate when it comes to my diet though hahaha. I laugh but it is important that i get a handle on it.

I get what you're saying bro. Makes sense. But I really want to make clear that I'm not suggesting you do that. I really don't have the success in this area to be giving out advice, besides some very basic stuff. Makes sense to me logically tho what you say. Wings REALLY helped me get started approaching too. Though, I was watching Leo's how to get laid video last night. And he did advise that if you are someone who is socially anxious, like with most people, that basic social stuff should be the first step. Rather than going from basementmaxxing to some club haha!

Haha fairs. I guess I was being too generalised in my comment. I might try that out actually. I've been struggling to get myself to give it another go. I tried one of Todd V's challenges around not being the first to break eye contact if you lock eyes with a girl when out and about. But have struggled to find a next step that isn't too daunting. But i dunno, i probably just need to get wings lol.

I get you. I was just making the argument that pickup is useful advice for a minority of men. But is too difficult to be a solution for most men.

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I'd say yes, but with two exceptions. Firstly, it just sort of skips the beginner social skills stage. For example, most pickup doesn't start with you going to the local meetup and just practising making friends with others who are also there to make friends. It starts with you going to some bar that can be hella intimidating as a noob lol. And the social skills needed to have good interactions are higher. Its like learning swimming by your dad chucking you into the deep end of the swimming pool lol. Secondly, its all fixated around making you have social skills that help make sex from cold approach more likely. Things like relationships and friendship social skills are not included much. But i dont want to speak too much on this subject. I have struggled a lot with pickup in the past, have done maybe 10 months total of it consistently and am still low on the skill tree. So i dont want to mislead.

Pickup can be great. But i don't see it as a solution to men's dating issues. Its way too difficult to be a reasonable solution that will help most struggling dudes out. Its good for the minority of dudes who are willing/ able to put in the high effort and strategy to really transform their dating lives. Basic social skills help is a better form of general solution I'd say.

Yeah but there is a difference between the type of person who is persuaded by evidence such as in the Epstein files situation, and someone persuaded by the mere existence of a dark possibility, i.e. 9/11 inside job. Yes there is an element of inaccurate pre-judgment from the mainstream when it comes to conspiracy theories. It is wrong to dismiss things as impossible just because they sound outlandish. Conditional probability makes outlandish events very likely. However, it is also inaccurate to jump to conspiratorial conclusions when other possibilities also exist. Conspiracy theorists who make correct guesses about things are still guessing. For example, those who much earlier guessed what Epstein was doing. A reasonable person will take the dark possibility seriously but will not jump to it as a certainty.

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@ROOBIO I struggled/ struggle with game too. I am ENTP. Which is sort of an ambivert. I find it hard to work out what I actually disagree with in pick up and how much is just me wanting attraction to work in a way differently than it does. But i dont know, i haven't done pickup properly for more than 4/5 months at a time. I made some significant progress, but not that much so i can't really speak that well on the subject. I did notice that I stopped seeing women as so special the more i did pick up last time. There would be women who stood out to me, but women as a whole became less mythical lol. I'm sort of back to that mythicalising now again cos i haven't been gaming. I'm thinking of giving it another serious go again soon.

Can practice self-amusing. Like do stuff to make yourself laugh in conversation. Rather than trying to make other person laugh. Can make it lighter and more enjoyable. If you don't really like that style, can just focus on self-engagement. Notice when you start getting bored/ drained by conversation and try to switch to topics that you are interested in.

Thanks Errr I do a mix. Cos I'm in cybersecurity training at the moment, and my trainings use various virtual machines to teach linux. Currently have used Ubuntu, and Debian. Might be using some kali soon when I learn more about ethical hacking! I've only done basic ethical hacking so far but each time has been a thrill. That's cool you donate too btw.

Linux being free is mental. I only tried it recently for the first time, and its epic.

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Great perspectives bro. Its great to have people on the forum who have really done a lot of great work in stage orange. Without strong stage orange development people really get into a lot of cope. Myself included. Being able to reliably climb skill trees is so key. I find it actually pretty useful to think in terms of video game ranks when it comes to skill trees. If you in copper (i play siege and that is the bottom rank), you need to find a ladder to bronze. Then a ladder to silver. Etc etc. People do get delulu and think that because they cant get laid in copper that the game is pointless. But really you gotta focus on climbing to that next rank. Its like a copper saying the game is too hard when they immediately play in a champ lobby. I get it though. Limiting beliefs and emotions can feel like facts, and you can get debufs from failure. I think once you climb one skill tree from being poor to being good, then your mind can really open up, and you get a roadmap on how to get good. For example, maybe you realise getting coaching is meta. Before that its understandable to have a lot of limiting beliefs and struggle to progress. Thats why its useful for parents to help their kids climb at least one skill tree growing up, i.e. theatre, sports etc. Otherwise, its easy to make an identity about not being the type of person who is able to be good at skilled things.

I know some pick up dudes who swear by his stuff

I actually agree with Peterson's response to the hypothetical. Also, i remember my legal philosophy tutor at university telling me that you can't just answer yes or no to questions. You need to say 'it depends' and define terms. So, there are people with expertise who also answer philosophical questions like he does.

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We are doing humble brags here. That is okay.

Niceeee. Time for some humble brags Proud that I: - Read war and Peace, - Went to one of best universities in the world - Was my university boxing captain. - Took full notes on two Yale online courses (France since 1871 and Intro to Political Philosophy) - Reached Gold V in Siege 6 (video game)

Bro you said most "most women are ruined" and then two sentence later said "The best you can do is just play the hypergamy curve". So I implied you were saying that because they have traits that make them low in romantic attractiveness they are ruined.

Banning prostitution is too much government overreach imo

Women's worth isn't dependent on what dudes find attractive dude.