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Would be interested in a link to this study please

Have you been getting good results from the Salzberg book?

I somewhat agree. Many women flock to really good looking dudes. I had a friend in University who was that level of physical attractiveness and bro, the simping some of these girls would do was insane! These girls would turn into a frenzy hahaha. Ngl would make me jealous af lol. And i think this gets underplayed and dudes rightly feel gaslighted. But I think you don't give enough credit to the power of charisma in attracting women. People having major changes through pickup because the process develops serious charisma. To an extent yes its a numbers game. But, if charisma didn't make a big difference then it would only be a numbers game and pickup dudes would keep getting a similar type of results. For example, a phone number every X number of girls, or the same attractiveness of girl would go for them and nothing more. But from what i've seen myself, and heard from others this isn't the case. You improve your charisma and you get a better level of results with women. BUT charisma does not mean having good character lol. You are right to point out the gaslighting there about most women going for guys who are noble and non-mysognistic hahaha. Women like dark triad traits. But anyhow, women care about charisma as well as looks. I'd say status and fame matter too. If you max out one of those traits as a dude then you will get many results with women imo. Except, sadly, if someone has some major deformity/ disability i think. But hey i dunno, maybe stephen Hawking was dropping mad game lol. However, for men if we don't find a girl physically attractive then she cannot make up for it. A girl cannot max out another trait to make up for not having good looks. Which is brutal. And that i think means that Women care less about looks that men.

LMAO Love some of their players. Namely Valverde and Mbappe

With pickup I've always found most of the teachers to be corrupt. Not necessarily in terms of the effectiveness of what they teach, but the ethicalness. I really value Leo's How to get Laid series because of this. It helps me how to think about pickup in a conscious way. However, with online dating, I'm not aware of Leo producing content on this. I understand one way to get good would be to buy a product from someone who has studied the percentages of what gets results. However, again they don't talk about what is ethical, or a healthy way to approach it, its just seemingly "DO WHAT WORKS". So, I'd like some perspectives on how to approach online dating consciously. (I want to do it alongside irl stuff)

Interesting. What did the term mean in the context of game theory? Just maximising the likelihood of positive outcomes?

Hahaha guess you're not a degen gamer miguel I just use min-maxing in the sense of maximising your win percentage in things. For example, through levelling up your skills.

I definitely get where you're coming from with the shallowness stuff, and the grossness of it. Apps have helped me get a significant amount more dating experience though. And that I have found really valuable.

I've seen that isn't true. If you follow advice from people who have performed de facto scientific studies on what works on the apps, i.e. best openers, you can get significantly improved results. I tried one new opener recently, and started getting significantly more matches. That alone disproves your claim. But people do seem to say I am a little bit above average lookswise. Emphasis on the little bit. So I understand it may be different for less physically attractive. But seems irrational to me to think that min-maxxing how you approach the apps even as less attractive wouldn't make a difference.

W high-consciousness dad

Yep, I'd definitely agree. One aspect of that is that a significant amount of gatekeeping of high-level opportunities has been taken away. If you wanted to publish a book you used to have persuade a publisher (just look at JK Rowling, and how many times she got turned down by publishers). If you wanted to be big in entertainment you had to persuade someone to give you a shot. Now you can self-publish a book, and/or start a twitch channel.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/future/article/20260309-ai-is-finding-treatments-for-incurable-diseases

Just don't abuse her, or lie to her, aside from white lies.

Maybe motivated by fear, but source of motivation doesn't matter in this context. What matters is having better education. If that better education is motivated by fear, then so be it. I'd say its not a binary thing of avoiding every trap or not. Its just about maximising the traps you avoid, and especially about making sure you maximise avoiding the important ones.

I can definitely see some benefits to that. But in any skill development there are various traps that people tend to fall into. One of the roles of foundational learning is to make people not fall into those traps. Relying on curiosity alone to ensure you cover material sufficient to not fall into those traps is a difficult one I'd say.

Not sure relapsed is the right word to use in the case of abusing someone.

Get away from your sister. Move out. You can't control yourself to not abuse her, and there is no excuse for it. There is a way forward. But you need to stay away from her. Go to anger management classes, or do therapy.

@YIDIRYIDIR I disagree. You need the foundation of a lot of books, then you can become a maverick. Otherwise most of one's creativity is gonna be spent re-inventing the wheel, and falling into all sorts of traps. Imagine trying to make a historical theory without reading all sorts of books on what happened in the past. The theory will likely be delusional

In some ways I agree. In some ways I disagree. For example, this young generation is much worse of in terms of ability to get a house, and they have to deal with trying to make it in a world full of addictive tech.

@Oppositionless I get you. Thank you for your response.

I would potentially be prepared to lay down my life for values I believe in. That may coincide with fighting for my country. But I wouldn't fight for my country because of the fact that its my country. Though its easy to say now. I imagine my country would put use all manners of manipulation to get me to join. My country is more developed than Ukraine in terms of its dominant ideologies but just look at what they did there in Ukraine to get men to join the military. They restricted any guy from like 18 - something like 60 (not sure exact age) from leaving the country. And forced many to join the army. To me that ought to be a war crime. To enslave your citizen population to fight for you is barbaric. I don't care how it affects the likelihood of military victory.

I would say that it can make someone stronger but it is really a result of the context in which the trauma occurs. There is indeed such a thing as post-traumatic growth, where people can grow from experiencing trauma. However, I would argue that only occurs if the trauma occurs in a certain context and/ or the aggrieved person has certain corrective life experiences. However, its important to look at how demographics tend to respond to things. And the ACE (Adverse childhood studies) consistently point to the conclusion that the more traumas a kid goes through the more likely they are to die significantly younger, have more diseases, worse mental health and health outcomes. Imo, this does not mean that an individual is doomed to a worse outcome. They might get lucky and have corrective life experiences. For example, they make friends with the kid of a trauma therapist who gives them recommendation that put them on a path with much better outcomes.

Haven't seen the video but wouldn't be surprised. Some of these guys have seemingly really min-maxed on what works on apps. I only have nominal experience with min-maxing on dating apps (sorta makes me uncomfortable to just min-max, but am unsure where i stand still on it), and i noticed clear results from it. That nominal experience just involved using a recommended opener.

LOOL Intense pulse light would be an interesting hobby ahahahaha. Nice tho! I like soccer too. My team is Chelsea.

Haha its Indian cricket league! Best cricket league in the world.