Ulax

@Yonkon I understand there is correct information promoting the anti repressed memory stance. I believe said correct information is that there have been many incidents in therapeutic scenarios where a client has come to believe that they have remembered an abusive event, when in fact it is not actual a memory, but an imagined event. Hence, this has led to some innocent people being falsely accused of perpetuating abuse. However, I strongly disagree with the idea that memories do not get repressed. I myself suffer from serious dissociation. And I often access new memories that I know to have happened, but for many years of my life I have been able to recall, or even know occurred at all. Hence, from anecdotal experience I understand, at least for myself, that it is false to claim that the theory of repressed memories is untrue. Further, dissociative disorders are not uncommon. And, intrinsic to them all are repressed memories. Hence, that provides evidence that repressed memory theory holds true for human collectively.

@lxlichael Nice one. I plan to reply to these two recent posts in details at a later time. Till then, I appreciate the discussion.

Firstly, I would like to express that I would prefer it if you didn't say things like this, 'I'm still waiting for the elaboration @Ulax, on two accounts now'. I felt pressured, and combatted against when you said that. "And what title shall we give the demographic? Unresolved shits and giggles underneath the surface of a shadow psyche? That's the demographic we have to remember to take into consideration?" In this context, I don't care about the name of the group. I think, if we have the means, we ought to take every demographic into consideration. My beliefs regarding this stem largely from systems theory, determinism, IFS, and psychoanalysis. As well, as a normative belief in psychological health aspirations and collective responsibility. "There's a line in the sand that needs to be drawn regarding behaviour that is tolerated and not tolerated, entertaining the severe psychological malnourishment of the majority of western civilisation is not one." - "There's a line in the sand that needs to be drawn regarding behaviour that is tolerated and not tolerated" -- I agree. I believe we ought to have boundaries in society. - "Entertaining the severe psychological malnourishment of the majority of western civilisation is not one". -- I disagree. However, not in the way I think you think I will/ do. I think we should entertain what people say no matter who they are, or what they say. However, I agree that it is not prudent to do what most people say they want done. For example, a neo-Nazi affiliated person may say, 'I want a USA filled only with white people'. I don't believe that would be a useful thing to do, or desirable. When I say we should entertain these views, I say it in the sense that we should do so out of respect for their dignity as people. Moreso, however, instead of looking at the words of what they say only, I would entertain what they said by analysing what the emotional state of that person is, and what base needs/ wants they are expressing. To me, I would respect the statement, 'I want a USA filled only with white people' because I respect the need/ want, and life circumstance behind the message. I would analyse that person sees people not as equals, but instead that some people are better than other people. And it would reflect, to me, that that person had a life where they were often treated as lesser/ better than other people. And i see that as something they did not choose to happen to them. It was not their fault. And I would like to say i'd be compassionate to that non-faulted injustice they have suffered. I will caveat by saying that I would still hold them responsible for what they say, and draw up boundaries. However, it is a boundary based on keeping others and the speaker safe, rather than out of moral judgment. "Most people are highly undeveloped and with every "likeminded attack" its like a crowd sourcing effort that becomes a new acceptable SJW norm that should have been booted out before it was given the chance to flourish."" - "Most people are highly undeveloped" -- I agree. - "its like a crowd sourcing effort that becomes a new acceptable SJW norm that should have been booted out before it was given the chance to flourish". -- I am struggling to understand this. If you mean, not doing what most people want to do because it is what most people want to do, where the people are generally psychologically underdeveloped, then I agree with the normative (ought) element of your statement.

@lxlichael ""it's never "courageous" to project your mess onto other people" I would disagree with you there." (lol quoteception ). My elaboration is the following. To me courage, put loosely, is about doing something you want to do, despite a fear-based belief, or set of beliefs that demand the act not be done by you. In "projecting one's mess' you therefore be courageous.

@lxlichael I appreciate your expression of cordiality. I believe that if you deem a certain demographic view's as views that must be dismissed, then the following occurs. On one hand, it would be helpful because the inaccurate views that that demographic would express would not cause harm that stems from ignorance. However, on the other hand, it would be dangerous because when that demographic voices legitimate and/ or accurate concerns, then that demographic will have those concerns addressed and will be vulnerable in relation to the issues of which those concerns pertain too.

@lxlichael I hear you. "Right on cue with that "positive reinforcement"," It was not my intention to positively reinforce. However, I can see how would be a consequence of what I said. "beware destructive incentives". That's valid, and I can see the value in what you're saying. Perhaps, I'm perpetuating harmful behaviour. However, I don't think I am in this case. Quite the opposite. "it's never "courageous" to project your mess onto other people". I would disagree with you there.

I don't understand your first paragraph. I'd like to understand it better and would appreciate it if you were to rephrase it. I agree in some senses I am following what other have projected. I suppose in some sense I'm a follower. However, in other ways I am voicing my own beliefs. "A life that lacks genuine inner innovation will lead to a projected life onto others you perhaps have underlying jealousy around." I would agree with that somewhat. It will lead in part to a projected life onto others. However, i think its dangerous to dismiss people's views/ concerns merely because they lack genuine inner innovation or are partly projecting. I believe it allows for dangerous power dynamics to take hold. I believe people's voiced concerns always contain some value. Perhaps, it takes more digging with some than others. I respect your critique of my comments.

I don't think you are a heretic dude. I respect your post, even if i disagree with some of it. It was a courageous thing to post.

@Leo Gura I'll be real dude. This sort of reply doesn't help the cult perception/ issue. I don't think its right to say he's full of shit. Respecting critiques like this from @Karl-Heinz Mueller are important to keeping this forum a healthy place. I might disagree with a lot of Karl's point, but I believe it is important to act respectfully towards him simultaneously. Everyone, and every one of their expressions is worthy of respect, imo. I wish you both well.

If we adapt to fight, we are more likely to fight. If we adapt to peace, we are more likely to peace.

Regarding your expressing these comments here, I find them abusive, and wrong to post. That said, having these attitudes, thoughts, and belief I completely respect. I have had a lot of thoughts, and emotional states like this. I have had various incidents of psychosis, and been abusive to people before too. I don't think that this forum will generally be the best place for you right now. It sounds to me like the events in your life have left you very ungrounded, and understandably so. And, with the enlightenment talk here being so pervasive I think this forum can be very ungrounding itself, and may compound your issues. I've changed my mind regarding recommendations. I'd like to make a few recommendations. There's a subreddit called r/CPTSDFightMode. You might find some solace there. I'd look into IFS therapy. Its very validating. I'd look into loving-kindness meditation. I understand that this might be triggering at first, but I believe it would help. I wish you well.

@Iesu Hiya. I don't have an answer that I'm confident enough in to recommend. However, I wanted to say I'm in a similar position in some ways, and that I wish you the best.

@Jon_Bundesen Hey, dude :). Thanks for the post. Firstly, I think its really remarkable that your thinking about these things at your age. So you're already ahead of the curve massively! Kudos! I hear you regarding school not feeling right for you. It sounds like there is an intuition there for you that you should be elsewhere, which I respect. I recall Leo saying in one of his videos regarding intuition that once you understand what your intuition is, then you want to follow that intuition. However, also you want to ground that following by using your thinking mind. I don't know your situation at school, or why you don't like school, so I won't comment on whether its worth continuing. However, one thing I'll note is that within that environment you have been able to make the real, meaningful progress of finding the more psychologically mature content of actualized.org, and putting in significant work into the Life purpose course. So it sounds like to me that there are some benefits to your current situation. I'd like to know some more things about you. And then perhaps I can give a further perspective. How is your mental health at school? How is your social life at school? If don't want to answer these questions I respect that, and I simply wish you the best :).

@ShardMare Do IFS therapy. Either using Jay Earley's workbook, or via a specialist therapist. Loving-kindness meditation too.

@Jacob Morres's post is very much dating related. If you wanna sort out your inner game properly, then go and do IFS. Loving-Kindness meditation is also sick.

@LfcCharlie4 Some sort of stage-yellow AI world simulator that is used to guide diplomatic efforts

@How to be wise Blue can manifest in various difference ways. Content vs structure.

@ShardMare Yo dude I'd look into depersonalisation, alexithymia, and r/CPTSD (reddit). I'd also recommend: IFS Getting a trauma-informed therapist who does IFS therapy Doing Jay Earley's IFS workbook Move on from toxic people in your life (Dr Ramani's Youtube channel is useful for identifying toxic relationships) I've been where you are for around 5 years now, and this is the best I've come up with so far.

@Muhammad Jawad Ah gotcha

@HypnoticMagician No need for that sort of talk on here

@Thought Art I used to. I found it pretty straightforward as I was doing a lot of game when i started it, so a lot of it wasn't so daunting. I always liked table topics. That was fun. I liked being a touch sadistic when i was the table topics master tho lmao

I'd walk away

@Raze That guy was a total creepjob ?. He's in a different league of creepiness than Torero.

@Truth Seekah Yesss Marina rocks!