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@Extreme Z7 I like it somewhat. Makes some useful points. I think the key to anti-foundationalism is to use it as an internal critique rather than external. So, rather than say, 'There is no base justification to rationality, therefore, all propositions are arbitrary'. You simply ask the question, 'What is your justification for that?' and go on, down and down the chain of justifications. The thing is his rebuttal to the anti-foundationalist critique also begs the question of whether there is a base justification, as he is asserting his counter proposition is true. The issue is whatever is said, is something said. It is something that takes place within the paradigm of rationality. So, anything claimed is always begging the question. I really think the only reason to engage in this sort of discussion is for rhetorical purpose. In terms of using language to manipulate someone to a certain point of view. To use it instrumentally. It sounds harsh but, to my mind, all use of language is rhetorical and inherently manipulative. There is always arbitrary privileging in language and I think that makes the use of language an inherently violent one. ------------------------ On another note, the epistemic coherentists are even more deluded lol.

@Raptorsin7 Overall, I'd recommend listening to 'Greater than the sum of your parts' audiobook. Seemed simplistic book to me, but really helped me with IFS. Even though I've gone through a lot of content on it. How many do I have? hmmm, I've mapped at least around 50 parts so far I'd say. Maybe like 30 are protectors. But numerous parts ive only really just identified and haven't gotten to know. I have with quite a few tho. How do you get in touch with protectors? Honestly, the fire drill meditation has been a game changer for me: Really helped me get in touch with some of the big boy protectors. Here are some questions too for parts mapping: 1. What is your role? 2. What would you like me to understand? 3. What would you like me to know? 4. When did the part first start to feel this way? 5. What heavy energies or burdens have you been carrying? 6. What are identifying markers of these protectors. 7. Are there any parts you are protecting?, 8. What is your name, 9. How old are you?, 10. How old do you think I am. I'd recommend getting a journal where you ask parts about all these things and write down the answers. I'd just keep in mind the potential for systems to have well meaning guessing parts. I think its really useful to get more into self too, prior to doing these questions and IFS meditations. A bit of a mind fuck recently has been finding out about my more meta protectors. Like there's one which shows me things that I ordinarily take as completely true, or ones that doubt the process of IFS and for a while I didn't realise they were parts. So myb those would be interesting ones to focus on too, if you have similar ones. The way i ended up identifying a few of them was kind of random. I decided to sit down with a notebook and just get into contact with my parts. Part of me decided that it would be really useful to try and write everything in my mind down, in a parts perspective. I.e. any images that come up, any voices that tell me to write a certain thing down and not another thing down and get into contact with those parts. That was really incredible stuff for me. I ended up sitting down journalling for like 4 hours, and learnt a lot about parts i hadn't really come across before, or parts I didn't really want to acknowledge. Myb that's something you'd be interested in doing too. Also, can go watch content of people you dislike and then try and start a dialogue with voices that come up. When do you know you're in touch with certain ones? To my understanding, every thought/ voice in your mind is attributable to a part. Some parts have v particular voices or identifying markers, particularly some of my child parts. But I do have great difficulties with some protectors who understandably try to disrupt the process, or who try to aid the process by guessing answers because, i.e. they are impatient to heal. The funny thing is I'm talking from a part now hehe, so I probably protect in various ways too. But, sincerely, this is a bit hit and miss for me, except with some of the more meta protectors. Hope this helps. Always interested to see where you are on your journey.

@AndylizedAAY Heya, I think Teal is great. Have heard good things about the completion process. I'd check out IFS too, as well. Its v similar to Teal's approach, except there's a lot more people in the world working on it and has more of an institutional setup behind it. Teal's only one person unfortunately. Anyhow, that's just my two cents. Hope things progress well for you

Hmmm maybe consult with your protectors on this. Also, you checked in with your protectors after that recent unburdening? That might clear up some need for control or something. Re meditation itself, not my forte, too many protectors atm for it to be useful for me.

Hmmm, nice post. I like your vibe dude. What came to mind was to try a fire drill meditation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_0Hg1GnG1g&t=168s And, put the girl as the person you want to focus on. Can ignore the bit about choosing someone you have an issue with. Then journal about what comes up for you. It is a parts based meditation, so myb open your mind to that at first. -------------------------------- I also thought about yoga nidra as something you might like. Its a very energetic practice, and can get you much more in touch with your sexual energy. It sort of helps your being versus doing attractiveness and connection. Its kinda more stage greeney in terms of dating, sexuality and attraction. Also, you'll have the best time jerking off of your life if dating doesn't work out ;). Shits wild w/ yoga nidra ?

Just do a 'take of your headphones' motion with your hands, and chuck in a statement of empathy like, 'I understand this is random', then get your other fundamentals in check and you're golden ;). Just doing daygame is tough tho, imo. I've done a solid pure stretch of it before, and I found it a lot tougher than my nightgame escapades, but I also learnt a lot of different things from it. Personally, in terms of growth, I think its important to mix doing both, but that's just me. I think lounge bar could be something you'd be interested in, too. Good luck.

Man, I hate it, but I love it when it comes to shows like this. Guilty pleasure for sure

Ye I'd prefer this too

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Ye lol I think there'd be a lot of conflict with a lot of therapists on that one. Imagine going to a cbt therapist with that ?. I don't mean to make light on your situation, but the above thought is funny to me. There are some therapists who talk about past lives and stuff. My last psychotherapist, who numerous parts of me dislike, was actually quite into past lives and I was quite interested in it too. Past lives is what I came to understand your linked article to be about. Maybe I'm wrong. Feel free to lmk : )

I get you. Might be an echo chamber thing for me. Parts of me have been pretty obsessed with therapy since early 2019, and I've got deep down the rabbit whole. And, I've engaged with a couple of therapies, namely psychosynthesis and IFS which, as I alluded to before, are deeply spiritual. Particularly the latter. So, I think that makes me much more cognisant of the presence of spiritual therapies. With the coming growth of IFS, that I think is inevitable, particularly with its building scientific validation, spirituality will become v prominent in therapy across the board. One issue with IFS tho is that its very damaging to right wing ideology. Its system based and sees the mind operating, at one layer of analysis, as a system. Hence, free choice pretty much goes out the window and determinism rules the day. And, to my mind, right wing ideology is built on a platform of exorbitant free choice. So, I wouldn't be surprised if we see right-wing groups attempt to disrupt mental health funding, try to get research cuts to IFS research, and generally attempt to vilify/ stigmatise IFS. Its a truly revolutionary modality. I'm constantly surprised by the lack of celebration and adulations folks who try it have about it. But maybe that, my adulation and celebration, is a result of my psychic structure. Hopefully, IFS will rule the day. The only thing is, which is promising, is that reality skews left. And, so, hopefully, just hopefully, IFS will rule the day. Anyhow, enough about me and my views. Go IFS!

I think that approach may be useful for non-trauma focused therapy. However, trauma focused therapy requires a lot of training, and specific approaches that sometimes require talk therapy and sometimes don't. Sometimes its counter-productive to talk through an issue, i.e. retraumatising. So, trauma therapy I don't think could be generalised. And, ye the state of therapy is absolutely fucked. But unless there's a very strong shift to democratic socialism, most countries aren't going to change. Its not really the fault of the therapy industry, its a result of the governmental systemic failings. Its v fucking tough to get a good therapist too. Lot of charlatans out there. Also, at the beginning, a lot of folks are attracted to toxic folks too, so don't act on red flags or even identify them, when its most useful too. I don't think all therapists are clueless re spirituality. Transpersonal, psychosynthesis and IFS all incorporate spirituality. Some therapies are a joke tho. Like they'll help, i.e. cbt. But they aren't a long term solution by any means. Anecdotally, i had a friend who im pretty sure had npd do cbt claiming he'd been saved. Safe to say he certainly was not lol.`

@kray Indeed. 'The stranger' didn't have an effect on me really. I felt surprised because people talked about it so highly. Then I realised I'd kind of already slipped into that absurdist state of mind. I think I also watch a Youtube clip of Camus a few years prior that really resonated with me. Shit is so absurd when you really think about it. But hey, life goes on, and all we can do is laugh into the abyss ;). (And become enlightened ofc )

Can't speak from personal experiences. But some lads from an accountability group I was working with were doing really well with investing, and w/o any formal education. They had main jobs, but were doing it on the side. I think there's value to it, definitely.

@PepperBlossoms Jheeze some good points there. Some I disagree with too. But mainly agree. You made me think about the increased polarisation this will bring. As the state will likely become more conservative based in terms of populace which will start a snowball effect of increasing conservatism. Scary stuff. And, ye the snitching stuff reminds me of the soviets. Not the same level but similar in some way. Thing is it makes sense within their paradigm. I don't usually manage to embody empathy for people of different levels of consciousness, aside from intellectually, but I do for pro-lifers within this context. If you think abortion after X date is murder, then having people 'snitch' is a no-brainer. You'd snitch on a murderer w/o question hopefully.

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Intriguing. My mind went to IFS therapy. The belief we have numerous subpersonalities in our unconscious that work in a system, on top of a core self. Perhaps, you were talking to one of these subpersonalities. Maybe next time, ask his name too

@TheAlchemist Damn, just tried this now. Pretty relaxing. Thanks

@Blackhawk Yo dude, I'd look into stage green activities. I.e. depth psychotherapies.

That video is funny af

At purple your identity is the following: - You are identified as a unit of a tribe, not an individual, The Transformational dilemma from red to purple is the following: - Realising that you would be better positioned if you were not part of the tribe but dominated the tribe. To me its really the birth of individual self. Perhaps akin to a toddler who throws tantrums all the time, and is less agreeable than at previous developmental stages. Its a key phase to embody, and integrate. No doubt there are major issues outside of a specific context for that psychic position, so its key to develop through eventually. I get your scepticism, tho. I guess I make spiral dynamics make sense by virtue of the transformational dilemmas from one stage to the other.

@Aleister Crowleyy Dude chill tf out

Fairs dude. Sounds good. Good luck. Also, if you're keen, I've been using these IFS meditations from the Ifs institute store: https://ifs-institute.com/store/245 Have personally found them useful for self-work

I don't think you've accounted for the folks who have addictions as a means to dissociate