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@Optimized Life Brother i empathise with your viewpoints, and I think you bring up something that needs to be discussed. I think the issue of false accusations is not given enough consideration and also many aspects of men's rights issues are not given adequate consideration. However, I do think you have jumped to a conclusion regarding the effect of rape compared to the effect of a life in prison for a crime you didn't commit. I think the effect of both is going to really depend on quite a few different factors that are at play, i.e. victim support, mental health prior to incident etc. And, I think I'm just making educated guesses with those examples, would need to research it more I think. But, I'd recommend thinking about the rapes in the situation like the toybox killer's. If you look at the accounts of the rapes that happened there, I think you may have a different perspective. I do want to warn you that I think reading events of that case will likely be really disturbing.

I haven't but looks like that game would scare the shit out of me haha.

@Bad_anarchist Do you have any sources regarding the immigration issues? I think I might have been rather green on immigration previously, and not been prepared to look into the systemic issues surrounding immigration. So, I would appreciate content on immigration.

Especially the witch subtype

I get folks apparent disapproval of tate and not wanting him encouraged. However, I think there is a real case to be made that discouraging people from watching Tate is an example of jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.

@inFlow Hey dude, From my perspective, I think there could be a variety of things at play. I think it could be to do with adhd, mental health issues, ongoing traumatic circumstance in your life, diet, inflammation etc. I think by asking some questions I might be able to be more effective in my advice. Do you have an understanding of your own personal boundaries? I.e. what would constitute abusive behaviour

@something_else I think it counterintuitively might actually be rather effective. To my understanding, the suffragettes used to do all sorts of things that pissed a lot of people off back in the day for the women's movement. I can't remember the name of the psychological model but I remember studying something about how minority groups provoke social change. I think the first step, in that model, is to draw attention to your movement. Whether or not these activists here are thinking strategically like that is another question tho.

From a report I saw, the activists had checked in advance that the work was glazed, so the soup would cause no damage and could simply be wiped away

@Leo Gura Nice

@AuroraDream Interesting. Assuming your claim is based on evidence, can you show me the evidence that bases your claim that covid vaccines do not prevent transmission from person to person?

@AuroraDream Ye I don't understand what point you were making from what you said or from the video. Are you saying someone lied or acted illegally or something else?

@Thought Art Yo dude, I reckon, if your finances are decent, get a wig when the time comes. Then experiment with and without the wig in places you can be relatively anonymous, and see what you like more.

@AuroraDream What point are you making? Are you saying that the covid vaccine from pfizer didn't have actually saves lives? Or something else?

@Danioover9000 Lmao loving the apparent mutual confusion between us. lol ye i get u re the dark humour. Been there myself. I haven't actually watched the vids tho, so won't comment on them.

@Danioover9000 Oh Ramani. You really found a source that said her real name is Kelsey Rodriguez? I'm shocked

@Danioover9000 Ngl I'm confused af. Who are you talking about? I will add I was talking about the psychology of trolls and haters, not any of the people in the videos.

@Danioover9000 I personally don't see anything abusive about the first relationship. The second one i do re the cheating but there's no sign she's doing anything abusive, to my mind, by sleeping with various other dudes whilst telling her husband. To my mind, tho not necessarily so, it can actually be a sign of someone being very secure in themselves if they are okay with their wife having sex with other dudes and vice-versa. Sounds to me like this guy is projecting his own view of what relationships should be and how he would feel onto both relationship dynamics.

@Danioover9000 In my opinion, a lot of these folks will have cluster B personality disorders, and perhaps sociopathy/ psychopathy. I think they are all just trying to meet their needs, and their cluster B/ sociopathic/ psychopathic needs meeting strategies match well with devaluing youtubers. I think Dr Ramani's narcissism glossary series on youtube and also her stuff on strategies for dealing with them can be really useful. I will note she seems to be quite hostile against cluster B/ sociopathic/ psychopathic folks, so wouldn't say she's stage yellow. But ye, I think folks need a specific strategy for dealing with those types of people because, to my understanding, their minds operate in a markedly different ways from the average person, and they can be v dangerous. Erich Fromm wrote some stuff about malignant narcissistic PD and how it relates to leaders that commit major atrocities.

@StarStruck Yo dude. One other thing you might find value in is to think about the potential consequences of your watching Tate's videos and also recommending Tate's message on the forum in what seems to me to be strong. My understanding of my intention is not to demand you think in the way I describe or agree with it. Instead my intention is to offer you a perspective. I'm not, at least to my primary understanding, attempting to change your view. However, I do want to encourage you to tate what I see to be a more conscious perspective on the effects of your actions. I've made an attempt to be relatively non-bias in the questions I've made to you below. I note you said you have some stage yellow, and so I am of the understanding that you are able to think in the way i describe below. Is it possible that by watching Tate's video you will inadvertently pick up ideas around women that will mean that you unconsciously are more hostile towards women? Is it possible that by recommending Tate's videos on the forum other folks on the forum will follow Tate, and have negative experiences and repercussions in their own lives? Perhaps, but for your post another person would have chosen Stephen Covey as their masculine identity. Is it possible by recommending Tate's videos on the forum some other people will actually have some positive experiences they otherwise wouldn't have had? Perhaps, a few people have found a masculine role model now that they otherwise wouldn't have had, and they end up with a loving, beautiful girlfriend. To what extent do i care about the effects of my actions? I.e. do i care about how another user might act differently in consequence of my actions? Do I care about how that user might act in their relationships?

@Yarco I like your perspectives here dude. I hadn't thought of the idea of discord deradicalization in-depth. I like the sound of it. Tho even with discord I would be afraid of getting doxxed or something akin. I could see how even if you deradicalise a few people on amicable terms, I think the system's survival would be threatened, and so the system would react against you in some way. I can imagine how someone could go from trying to deradicalise to actually themselves being radicalised. And I thought the analogy about saving a drowning person was spot on. I think its important to get a level of emotional mastery before attempting to deradicalize folks. Plus also get a really strategic and expert level plan about how to deradicalize people. And also develop a competency in conflict resolution. I personally like the Non-violent communications approach currently. However, I think I'm just making an educated guess, and think I would really need to find an expert mentor to understand how to approach the topic.

I've watched videos about Daryl Davis over the past few years, and am consistently astonished and in awe of his approach to what I see to be the issue of US race relations. Whilst I don't know how replicable his approach is, i.e. in terms of safety, I think Davis has got significant Yellow in him, and also some really healthy blue, i.e. integrity, respect. I would also like to understand other user's opinions on what they think Davis's spiral placement is. Watching this again today, I found myself tearful, moved and inspired at various points of this video. I also hope this video contributes to a sense of inspiration for those who watch it, re their own journeys.

Hey dude, I've done EMDR before with a certified EMDR therapist. I didn't find it worked towards my goals. However, to my understanding, its more effective at dealing with traumas surrounding a certain event, rather than clearing up trauma surrounding many smaller events. I was looking for help with the latter, so it may have been that the technique wasn't the right fit for my goals. My personal belief is that going with an EMDR therapist is likely to bring a greater chance of success than doing it on your. I think, as I believe is generally so, by finding a mentor we can avoid common pitfalls and traps. However, I don't intend to dissuade you from not doing any EMDR on your own. Also, the following book came to mind: Francine Shapiro, Getting Past Your Past: Take Control of Your Life with Self-Help Techniques from EMDR Therapy. I haven't explored it in-depth myself but I thought it may be of value.

@spiritual memes ??

@The Mystical Man Damn, I found it chilling reading an article earlier about what some folks did to the victims families, after being persuaded by the Jones sandy hook conspiracy theory. Some of them went and pissed on the grave of a 7 year old kid who was killed in the shooting. One of the daughters of one of the victims got rape threats mailed to her, I think repeatedly.

@StarStruck I really like Marshall Rosenberg atm. Dr Ramani too.