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@Leo Gura Ok, Leo my question to you is, if two individuals took LSD and had a breakthrough at the same time, what would they see when they look at each other. Would that be different? Or would they both see the same emptiness that is the consciousness? Ground 0 has to be 0.

@The0Self But emptiness and not being grounded in anything are two different things. Grounded in nothingness is not the same as saying it's grounded in nothing. It's one, so it's on the grounds we share the emptiness. We might have different paradigms though. Mi casa es tu casa.

@Leo Gura Emptiness, might be the closest word I can think.

@Leo Gura Wouldn't a greater model be an absolute consciousness that generates the reality and then what consciousness builds can become self aware in different ways? Thus reality isn't actually truly groundless, because it's grounded in absolute consciousness.

@Leo Gura So you're saying paradigms are the foundations of reality?

@Leo Gura Leo how can you be certain this isn't a personification of Truth the same way religious people personify God as a man in the sky? How can you know what he knows? When you add qualities to God it just becomes confused with a person, instead of Oneness.

@Leo Gura This work just got even more complicated, ffs.

@Scholar Some people like poetry or word games, it can reveal deep truth in subtle ways, but I do agree it can be a bit annoying and slightly grammar nazi.

@Hotaka He seems very rationally minded and has an understanding of how conspiracies affect society. He seems to be interested in developing himself spiritually. You seem to be jealous of him.

@Lyubov Tantra could be meditation on steroids. I believe I did achieve an absolute love awakening from meditated sex. I do believe both people need to be spiritually developed, and it does seem esoteric. There did appear to be subtle connection to root chakras and kundalini. I normally don't believe in this stuff but, I am still in shock to this day what happened to me from that Tantra session. I'm remaining open minded, but still I have doubt about it. Don't always trust your experiences, but don't always disregard also.

@Scholar I agree up to about here.

@AMTO Well, fitness industry is mainly in the business of scamming people, it's just showing his true incentives. Some people want to use other people to make money, they just have a filter to hide it better.

@AMTO He's not faking it, lol. He altered his consciousness with psychedelics and of course his biology didn't agree with it, causing a dopamine imbalance in the brain. At the same time he's having the biggest ego backlash of his life. He's also escaping from the reality of being insane, and the long term damage this will have on his career and reputation. He's trying to play it off but everyone can see through it, and it seems he really cares about the way people perceive him as he always has to be in front of a camera. I have no doubt he's going to do some money making scheme, he's not in a sane head to make money in any legitimate way, that would provide true financial value.

@F A B I think romantic love is more to do with survival and sexual reproduction than absolute love.

Connor needs to actually be humble and admit to himself that's he's mentally ill and get the help and treatment that is required, and then after he recovers from that he can talk about safe spirituality and how dangerous self-delusion is, along with substance misuse. This would would be the greatest good Connor could do for God, as he would massively reduce stigma about mental health issues in the world and show how even someone as strong and big and muscly as he was can be openly weak and vulnerable. You really can't help others until you help yourself. He needs to actually cut ties with his spiritual ego to be more selfless.

@Chris365 I made the point previously that the deeper you go into spirituality, the deeper your roots have to be in science, objectivity and rationality, or else this happens. Nobody seems to agree with me on this point.

Romantic love is far behind Absolute Love.

@F A B These are my arguments against relationships and I want to see if there are logical reasons why I might be wrong. Not excuses, just reasons not to invest.

You don't know that, you believe that. Ships can sink.

They have a point @Leo Gura people have drowned in puddles. You can never be too safe.

@Chris365 He seems to be panicking to share it all as quickly as possible.

I have stopped communicating absolutely anything related to spirituality or enlightenment to the outside world. I don't think it's worth it to be totally honest. People will look at me differently, others may be concerned, it can offend religions, it can affect relationships, there's an entire identity created out of it (which is the worst part honestly). There's no better feeling than knowing you have no identity to spirituality. You can just discuss it online with others without all of the issues as stated. If you make mistakes, there's no problem either. It's part of the learning process. Let's take an example, if I was to go on a long retreat I could do 5-Meo DMT for 30 days in the row. I would be a completely transformed person. I would need some time to adjust and take that all in. I wouldn't share any of that with anyone apart from the forum. Do you guys communicate about this outside the forum?

@Nahm I'm sorry this isn't making any sense to me. If you were enlightened and you went into a job interview that could cost you everything. Like if you didn't get this job, you'd become homeless. You would lose your enlightenment, as your brain is focusing on survival. You have freedom to focus on Actuality or something else. It's always true and there subtly, but only increased awareness makes it realized fully.

@Nahm No offence to poetry, I'm just trying to share the brute difficulties of survival, and how, even if truth is understood, experienced and known. It can become opaque with thought. That's how the ego works, it possesses you. That's why people have to meditate or do psychedelics to overcome that opaqueness, clearing the lens as to provide clear vision into the nature of reality. Do you agree?

@Nahm There is a clear illusion being maintained, which creates a duality from actuality. And there has to be a reason for it. e.g. survival. It's not as simple as being just you, because if you're deeply focus on a task that just be YOU pretty poetry goes out the window.