Hermetics

@Preety_India Yes he's another Sai baba of India or an evangelist Joel Olsteen.

@Leo Gura Relative standards? Do you know the great gautama buddha did ALL those things I mentioned on what a guru/mystic/shaman whatever is a fully realized being. A complete being! Can astral project lose their human form(lower ego and its limitations) lucid dream at will Is his/her fully realized self (dreaming body) through shadow work and dreaming practices of the unconscious mind can enter other dreaming dimensions Fully mastered their emotional/mental/physical faculties Can see energy directly Doesn't care for worship and only cares for practical growth. Doesn't waste time beating around the bush with riddles and cares little for theory. Gets straight to the point. answers what he/she fully knows with their experiences/wisdom, if they can't answer that question for you, they'll let you know. SO if a "Buddha or a mystic" is none of these, please tell me what you think it is? What is a FULLY realized being? Are you telling me no mystic/guru has to master their emotional/mental state? So they can be pathologically/psychologically insane and be a "guru" regardless of their mental and emotional state? Even if they were suicidal(not saying mooji is)? So what is a guru then if its not any of these? An average person? A person who can't do any of that? And I'm asking everyone else here too. List YOUR qualifications of what a "guru" is, pls.

Me? F'In millions. I'm on social media posting my research ALL the time and adding value by providing info. What are you talking about? For example I'm adding value now by exposing bullshit everyone's eating from Mooji. I provided enough info to make up your own mind with common sense (lets not jump into cognitive dissonance because we feel strongly towards someone and afraid our beliefs will get shattered.) THERE are people in his cult committed suicide. Ya great help. AND He's preaching bullshit. Why would anyone advocate this? Just because some people in here feel "strongly" and attached to him doesn't mean mooji is a "guru"as many as you want them to think. He helped No one. NOt one person. Everything I stated is what a guru is a true "buddha". And MOOJI is not one. How do you know what "mooji" would say. Do you know him personally? are you his cult follower? I know People personally who attending HIS satsangs personally and LEFT. And there are literally 1000's of others as well leaving his 'ashram'... I seen All his shit. IF you want to keep drinking the KOOL aid be my guest. I'm done with this mooji shit and I will expose all these cult leaders even if others feel "strongly" towards them. No one said the truth is going to be easy or pretty. Most of the responses in the thread are just more new age hippy BS with 0 understanding of natural law and dwell in just abstract theories so I care little for their response. Like that watered down version of "what a shaman is". Give me a break. @Visionary knows a bit, I can tell. Hence why you were tagged. You're still a neophyte. One day padawan.

Anti guru is just more nonsense. Ya I checked out your link, it's just more vague new age woo woo and your article couldn't be any more wrong. I love assumers they're so quick to jump the gun. I'm against fraud gurus or new agers. If you want to support them then go ahead. I'm done drinking that kool aid. More power to those who do.

Let me bring it down for you so your simple mind can understand it. You don't need to experience them to prove them Lets take take the example of hot and cold. They are different in degree but they are on the same scale. What is that scale? That scale is called temperature. Now which hermetic law does that apply to? the law of vibration. Does that Sound like you need personal experience to understand basic natural law which Nature has provided you? I just proved it to you by ONE little example on temperature, which Nature has provided us. I can GO all day and provide more.. Even NIKOLA tesla agrees with me. Are you going to tell me it's just his "beliefs" now? One of the greatest minds Who studied under one of the greatest mystics. I'm sure others in here understand this. And well others like yourself don't clearly get it..In due time. I feel like you been conditioned too much by one of these neo advaita teachers. Are you a mooji follower? "Which means you have no idea if it is real or not, because the only way to know if something is real or not is to directly experience it" your words @Shin There's plenty of people who are in asylums experiencing things which aren't there or real. So does that mean unicorns exist pancing around town if they're hallucinating one? According to your theory it's substantial enough to be proof of "reality" since they "experienced" it.

I never said I was, but for some reason you assume to think I am and you keep assuming so. Again YOU failed to tell us what shamanism is. That's your definition of "shamanism". You sound like one of those new age lightworkers FREE love and hippies! You remind me of one of ranjeeshe's followers. lol@your vague definition of shamanism. Thanks for the laugh

what does "experience" have to do with natural Law or empirical evidence of nature's expressions? Nothing! So Your statement has no significance to what I've stated. Sorry it's like trying to teach math to a fish. Some people will never get it, even if you tell them 1+1 = 2, they'll turn around and say 1+1 = blue. Cognitive dissonance is strong. Do you believe there are atoms? @Shindo you think we live on a flat earth? Do you believe that energy exists? Do you think nature exists or we're all hallucinating the world?

@GirzoI don't listen to any neo advaita or any advaita stuff anymore. I use to listen to Rupert Spira as well as James schwartz and all those advaita teachers. @Shinthe proof doesn't get any better than scientific evidence of the hermetic principles. it's Not a belief LOL. Tell me when did mooji prove his abstract theories through nature? Hmmm never. Or give One pragmatic example. None. These gurus speak in vague tongue. You're one of those even presented with factual evidence, still denies the world or think this is dream world. Or whatever looney theory they can conjure up. What More proof do you need?

No one said I'm special not even me. But I'm glad you think that You think I assume so. Humbleness is for the dumb and weak. So keep going. You're embarrassed, then that's your problem and your own personal issues. I'm not here for your comfort zone. Telling me what "shamanism is and isn't" doesn't make you an authority on the matter. Why? because You haven't given your 2 cents. All you're saying "that's not what shamanism" is. Why don't you enlighten us instead of saying "oh thats not shamanism" clearly you lack the knowledge or you would have explained it to us. There isn't a need to expose others? why so we keep sheeple moving along the herd? Great Logic! People Like me who fell victim for this in the past. Moving along now. Are you an advocator of this these type of people? Because this is exactly what mooji and other fake gurus are. The equivalent

I replaced mooji with ancient universal concepts that are proven through nature. That's THE difference, since I have to explain it to you. Something I believe in? What are you talking about. These are facts straight in your face! I believe in Proof, you don't? It doesn't get any more factual than this! What, you don't believe your eyes see now? is nature lying? All you need to do is look at the images. It has Nothing to do with belief. you can either accept it or just live in cognitive dissonance. Are you even looking at images which express the hermetic laws through nature? What more proof do you need other than the visual proof in front of you? Unless you're one of those "nothing is real" type of people...nothing exists.. @Shin "Drop everything you think you know, that's the only way you really are going to realize what is the Truth." Sorry but that sounds more like new age vague trying to act wise and cryptic bullshit, but completely clueless to me, no offense.

Don Juan Matus - The Fire within

William Walker Atkinson - Science of breath

Here's some more vids on mooji Bs. Wake up Everyone! I use to Fall for this shit all the time! I use to religiously watch mooji videos on the playlist, even while I was sleeping. Luckily his Bs stopped working ages ago. Never too late for you! https://gurumag.com/becoming-god-inside-moojis-portugal-cult/

Sorry for the rant. I get slightly passionate. A spiritual leader no no @calibrate. But a shamanic guide with the most pragmatic experience is a yes yes. I'm not conscious conscious @Leo Gura#processinthemaking. I Just saw your message. Pragmatic shaman/mystic whatever you want to call it, a being of true higher consciousness: Can astral project lose their human form(lower ego and its limitations) lucid dream at will Is his/her fully realized self (dreaming body) through shadow work and dreaming practices of the unconscious mind can enter other dreaming dimensions Fully mastered their emotional/mental/physical faculties Can see energy directly Doesn't care for worship and only cares for practical growth. Doesn't waste time beating around the bush with riddles and cares little for theory. Gets straight to the point. answers what he/she fully knows with their experiences/wisdom, if they can't answer that question for you, they'll let you know. Of course these are rare gems. Fake ones: Has no understanding of natural law aka Hermetic Principles from the Corpus Hermeticum or Kybalion (Nature's laws which we can clearly see through its atomic, molecular, and geometrical esoteric blueprints(star of david, sacred geometry etc..). New age gurus are vague in their abstract new age theories or some try to use basic modern science, (this will be a day for another post by me which I'm writing an article about exposing frauds).

Well now you know what esoteric means. So "GET TO WORK" and DIG FUCKING DEEPER. Don't say I never gave anything to you.