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Whatever happens we'll have to learn to play nice or straight up capitulate to them, they will be the only game in town soon. Otherwise war is inevitable.

Judging, worrying, and trying to control how other people express their love and what kind of relationships they get into is a huge ego game, and an even bigger distraction from doing your own inner personal work. If someone wants multiple partners and it's all consensual, good on them! If someone is happy spending their life with the first person they meet, good on them! If someone wants a same sex relationship, good on them! Mind your own bloody business and work on your own happiness. Maybe society is deteriorating from polygamy, who cares? Maybe it's the inevitable evolution of things, and the result of a free society expressing itself? Regardless it's completely out of your control, panicking and resisting reality will only lead to suffering. Reality is literally perfect as it is and exactly as it should be. Accept it.

This is one of the drawbacks of the internet - information is so abundant and easily manipulated, and individuals have the freedom to create or pursue the depths of whatever rabbit-holes they like, crystallizing their own biases. People have always believed crazy things, but now the audiences are much more engaged and nobody has to bother listening to conflicting worldviews if they don't feel like it, unlike the past news. At least before the limited public media sphere made it harder to espouse such insanity without major backlash. All par for the course though, it's evolution, baby!

Maybe, it would be nice, but this work is vastly too abstract. There are so many complexities, tricks, and counter-intuitive pieces that it feels like an infinite spider web in the mind going in all possible directions. Nothing feels simplistic and "factual". Rather there are just lots of aha moments as things become less foggy and more clear.

A little trick; make sure you have to pee somewhat before sex (but not too bad it's uncomfortable). You'll last a very long time.

Reduce your nutella toast to a little ritual. How about from now on you only eat nutella once every sunday morning. That way you get your fix and it's something to look forward to. Only eat it in the morning on that day as a treat and ONLY then.

Heavily.

Don't waste your time getting into Amazon FBA or any of that bullshit. It's massively oversaturated and it's the equivalent of scalping or running a pawn shop. You offer nothing of real value to society. Just buying and reselling goods and products other people made at a higher price. Go to trade school and learn a real skill. You're going to be grinding endless hours for little reward with Amazon now. That gold rush has passed already.

We are in a pandemic so yeah approaching strangers in close proximity isn't the wisest thing. Don't think with your dick. There will be plenty of chances in life to approach in the future.

I know it might be an area of your life you want to fix or improve on, but perhaps now with the pandemic in it's worst moments it isn't the time to be committing to such a course? On top of it pushing your finances to the edge as you mentioned, you might not even be able to get the most out of what you're paying. People are going out less, bars and clubs are closed in many places, and it's not as socially acceptable to get close to people in public. I'd exercise some patience until summer my friend. Maybe just satisfy yourself the best you can with online dating right now, and meet people irl from those so you can arrange Covid friendly dates.

That tells you what you need to know. You have not fully moved past this if these feelings are coming up after that long.

Contemplate and appreciate this for a moment; 80 years ago our grandparents were forced to drop their entire lives to go overseas and fight in a war and probably die horrifically for people they've never met, and they barely complained. The government now is simply asking people to wear a cloth mask and to take a flu shot so millions don't needlessly die, yet people are whining grotesquely that they are being crushed under an authoritarian boot. Think about the absurdity of the selfishness going on here. We truly are some spoiled brat generations.

The first thing is you can't be thinking the thought, "I'm a creep, this will be weird." If that is in your mind you are already fucked. Breathe and train yourself so you have control over what thoughts come into your mind.

Men and women can only be friends if the pressures in the social circumstances they're in dictates that they cannot or should not be in any kind kind of intimate relationship, hell even that sometimes doesn't stop people! Otherwise, no men and women cannot be platonic friends. In my personal life and experiences I've seen a near 90% failure rate in that if men and women are "just friends" long enough, eventually one of them caves and starts to get feelings for the other, whether reciprocated or not doesn't matter. It just takes one person to have those feelings to corrupt the integrity of the label we are using here. There are probably even more men/women friendships that look platonic on the outside but in the minds of one or the other sexes are some sort of desire or plan for future intimate possibilities. You have to keep in mind here that it's literally a fight against the very powerful force of our biology. Most people can't win that fight reliably enough which is understandable. I don't want to get anyone triggered here. I'm not saying it's impossible for men and women to be friends. I just think it's a lot rarer than we realize. Hell, I've had great girl friends before. But it might have been the social group we were in that made the potential of getting together unthinkable, or maybe they had feelings that they never expressed and I just didn't consider it because I wasn't into them. Hard to know. I'll just say generally no they can't, but there can be exceptions.

Don't let Leo fill your head with fantastical pre-requisites for dating dude. You don't need to live in a busting metropolis burning $2800 a month on rent just to be able meet women, that's fucking absurd LOL. You want to be moving somewhere you'd enjoy working and living first and foremost, it's of central importance actually. Moving somewhere just because of the dating/pick-up game is just pure stupidity, unless it's your literal job to be a dating/relationship coach. Any city with 75K-ish+ people will do. That's potentially thousands/tens of thousands of women to meet. There are women all over man. It's half our damn species. If you really want them they aren't hard to find no matter where you are and what your situation is.

Wow what a tremendous distraction that was! Excuse me while I go back to sitting in a dark room for 4 hours.

Because the idea of it offers something exciting in a modern life where we are relatively extremely safe.

Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiikes. Yea man, if she's still doing something like that at 28 this is not something that's going to be good long term. Judging from all the posts I've read from you, you can definitely do better than her mate. Don't let yourself sink on the crazy ship, jump off.

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It's a physical response yes, but not physical attraction. She isn't attracted to him (his body), she attracted to his social status.

Now you're getting it! She likes the idea of getting fucked by someone famous, the body is still ugly but she will overlook that.

Being hilarious and cheerful doesn't give you a 6 pack or sculpted chest. Having prestige because you're a skilled dentist isn't going to change you being born with a chiseled jaw or great hairline, or not. So no, they have absolutely nothing to do with physicality. You're confusing social attraction and physical attraction, they interact with each other in ways, but they are not exclusively the same thing. A woman might change her mind from not wanting to fuck an ugly looking guy, to wanting to be with him after learning he's a great match for her personality wise and intimately yes, but that's because she's attracted to something abstract. Not the actual physical body. The core of what makes a man physically attractive, is his literal body. Otherwise the word "physical" doesn't mean anything, at all. If words don't mean anything we might as well be talking gibberish.

What are you talking about LOL? Have you ever been outside walking around the street before? (jk btw) There are plenty of grotesque looking men with balloon size beer guts walking around with jaw dropping women all the time. Want to know why? > Prestige, success, wealth, charisma, personality. These have mostly nothing to do with physical attraction. You can be a cave troll and with the right social skills be able to get great looking women.

Because of the sex marketplace. Relationships have a lot of factors but the main base reason we get into relationships is because you want a steady supply of sex/ability to produce children. Women are the gatekeeps because they are only willing to give so much, while men are ravenous with how much they want. This creates a leverage of power for women because men are willing to lower their standards to get what they want more than women are. In other words, women are smarter and respect themselves more on average lmao, so men are literally shooting themselves in the foot and sabotaging their own position by being so horny. That only explains one part of it though. Another huge part of the value imbalance is everyone is selfish and always wants a partner who is better than them. Unless you're a narcissist I guess.

The reason I am being blunt here is because there is clearly hesitation in his OP. That is addressed by simple, direct answers. Not an essay of endless information that will confuse him even further. I'm not a PUA and this isn't PUA advice. I've never needed to nor practiced any of that material in my life. In fact what might surprised you is irl I'm probably more gentle and give off the image of a quintessential "nice guy" more than any guy on this forum; The only difference is I know how to avoid the traps of get walked over, taken advantage of, or sacrificing/SIMPing myself over a woman and I can do it all without becoming a quasi-sexist PUA douche. It depends on the inflection and content of their conversations and relationship, but yes telling her that he is waiting for her could be a bad idea. That was the issue I was warning. The problem here is you are simply misinterpreting. He can communicate what I've said without being rude. It should be so obvious this is the case that it would be insulting if I had to even summon that caveat, considering the fact he explicitly stated he's, "got better with his social skills". @Preety_India You frequently diverge and derail threads by getting invested too much in what others are saying on this forum. Let's do our part to give the best experience to @The Don by focusing on him and what he needs. I'll give my advice to him, you give your advice to him, and he can choose to respond and learn from each or either if he wishes.