JosephKnecht

He had good points, but he keeps demonizing people from the lower level on the spiral. The rant against Ayn Rand and Nathaniel Brandon was unnecessary. These people were intellectual giants in their time. They attempted to create an objectivist philosophy of reality and went as far as they could. Why demonize them for their failures? To get higher on the spiral, you must first go through the lower levels. These people are still lifting up people with the books they wrote. The same goes for Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris and whomever else Leo has ranted against. @Leo Gura Just friendly advice to tone down your criticism of others. You are free to point to holes in their arguments, but don't use ad hominem attacks in the manner you spoke today. Some of your listeners have to read Ayn before they can understand your argument. Don't deprive them of that privilege.

Man. I have a treat for you. Enjoy. Its only 4 hours of yelling at you on how you are wrong. The man has a point tho.

People on this forum are more openminded than the general population and thus favor more progressive views. If you were expecting something else, there is a problem with your expectations. The problem with the leftists is that they haven't gone full circle yet. If you go all the way to the left, eventually you will come to the right. But many people, especially on far left hold extremist views against the right because they absolutely believe in their ideology. On one hand, they have moved in the correct direction and they see that going left leads to more progress in society. But what they fail to realize is that once progress has been made, you need people from the right to systematize and democratize the progress. The left is necessary to point to holes in the current system to destabilize it and make it better eventually. But the right is necessary to take over from the left and create the right institutions that will stabilize the progress. The left can create CHAZ countries, but other than guitars and yoga mats they can't bring anything else to the table. They don't know how to create institutions, because that is more in the skillset of the people from the right. So you are right, we need people from the left and the right. As long as there is the freedom to express our opinions in an open debate, there is a chance to align our views. In the long run, we are all wrong anyway. Both left and right. Are you an American living in Germany? I don't think they allow the Germans to vote in American elections. But these days anything is possible.

I think the gays might be into it. He might even win over their votes. The blacks would probably disagree. But jokes aside. If Trump wants to say those sentences, he will say them. He might say them in an interview (shall we ban interviews?), he might say them in news briefing (also ban news briefings?), or god forbid he might say them in an executive order. The Founding Fathers intended for the president to be the highest voice in the Nation. They envisioned the President to be the Father of the nation. We are now in a situation where people are advocating to silence the highest voice, which in the current system should never happen. There are two solutions. Solution 1. Change your constitution and come up with a better way of governance than the current one. Solution 2. Don't elect idiots who say idiotic things. If you elect idiots, it is your vote who put idiots in power and you must suffer your own idiocy.

@Principium Nexus Watch this. I think it might be helpful in your visualization.

No, it would not be awesome. That would mean that a corporation that is only liable to a few shareholders has more power than a democratically elected president who was voted in by millions of people. Few shareholders in tweety company should not be able to silence a person that presides over all the laws of the country. When a few people rule over many, there is always tyranny. Don't silence Trump. Vote him out of office. That would be more awesome.

You can't tell the Truth to a believer. A believer believes in Jesus but doesn't know Jesus. If you tell a Christian fanatic that Jesus didn't exist, they will crucify you. If you tell them the Jesus never died, they will crucify you. Christians have to crucify YOU, to know Jesus.

The difference is syntactic sugar. The latter makes the language "sweeter" for human use. Emotions are the things that set things in motion. Science can't study subjective states since science relies on objective third party validation. Spirituality can't explain objective states since it relies on subjective experience. The most surprising thing is that all emotions can be deconstructed. David Hawkins's scale is a useful approach to deconstruction.

To get to enlightenment, you must first pass through the path of insanity. When you think you are starting to go insane, don't stop. Keep going.

Spirituality is about raising your spirit. The spirit doesn't understand depression, emotions, jobs. Those things are under the control of your ego. You suffer because you misidentify your spirit for your ego. Spirituality can only help you to the extent that you can correctly identify yourself rather than misidentify yourself. If everything that I just mentioned went over your head, remember, you can always get another job. You can always let go of your emotions. You are in control of your life. Nobody can ever know you the way you know yourself.

For-Get. For —used to indicate the place someone or something is going to or toward. Get — succeed in attaining, achieving, or experiencing; obtain. Without the for, you can't get. Without the get, you don't know what for.

I know he knows, but he doesn't want to tell me. Did you enter this state through meditation only or through different methods?

Is doing "low consciousness" activities a good approach for grounding back to reality? Are there any side-effects to re-grounding using these approaches? Can you get to a state when you can willingly modulate your state of consciousness? This would mean not talking psychedelics to achieve high states, nor having sex to achieve ground states? So only using pure will power?

Politics.

That is what I have been trying to say. I do not follow Stefan, and I was unaware of /r/the_donald until they removed it from Reddit. We should not delegate the freedom of speech to large companies that basically have a monopoly on our communication channels. If Youtube could ban Alex Jones, Stefan, and others, what would prevent them from banning Leo from Youtube? I am sure in the hundreds of hours Leo has uploaded, someone might interpret something as hate speech.

What is a statue but the immortalization of human stupidity? A statue is an attempt to solidify the image of a hero who in the times which he/she lived fought for that which society believed to be just. But society changes, and so does justice. Now take a more enlightened perspective. Every statue in a million years will be perceived as a deluded idiot who fought for something that was already perfect in the eyes of God. It was only his Ego that saw imperfections and tried to make it perfect. In the end, we should bring down every statue, not just the confederate ones. Or maybe, we should let them stand as a symbol of human stupidity. If you can't decide who draws the line, then don't draw the line. Sites like Reddit, Youtube, Amazon have gained monopoly power over the way we communicate. If they gain the power to censor communication, eventually they might seek power to control what, how, and when we communicate. One of the reasons why the Internet is so successful and prevalent is because it doesn't censure any communication. The internet protocol allows for complete freedom in human expression. There is no "hate" in bits of information. Every bit is equal to every other bit. The hate is only in our minds that perceive hatred. You can't eradicate hatred by censuring speech but only by changing human perception.

I agree with your points. However, who becomes the arbiter of what is "hate speech"? The one who decides what is hate speech wields all power over free speech. Reddit is a privately owned company. That is true. However, Reddit is hosted on Amazon AWS. What if one day Amazon decides that posting memes about Bezos is hate speech and shuts down Reddit? A company can not be the arbiter of free speech.

It is all fun and games until someone loses an "I".

It is not about the amount of money. You have to earn more than you spend. If you earn a million but spend two million, you are still relying on daddy to pay the bills.

Which one is more important? Hate speech or Free speech? Hatred or Freedom? You can not shut down a community like that. The community can create their own forum where they can continue perpetuating hatred. In fact, when they recreate their communities, their hatred will increase because others were trying to silence them. I am not defending their hatred. Only their freedom to hate.

Yes. I think that was the person that initially "pushed me" onto the spiritual path. The person is not in the "public eye". You would never guess that he is Awakened. From the outside, he appears as a normal, average, family man in his 50's.

Everybody is going through the same thing. I am also going through a similar situation. There are already too many gurus and philosophers. The highest teaching you give to the world is not what you say or write, but what you do. You must embody what you have learned and become that. Conceptual intelligence is only useful only when the intelligence stops drowning in concepts. You can conceptualize the most beautiful universe inside your mind or you can also choose to experience the universe without concepts. In the end, it is not what you know that matters, but what you achieved with what you knew. It would be great if everybody became enlightened and everything becomes perfect, but perfection is fucking boring. Just imagine everyone singing Kumbaya my Lord, and dancing in a circle for all eternity. Imagine how that would feel. That doesn't sound like heaven to me. Sounds more like Hell. It is more dynamic to have everyone on the spiral rise and fall. That is the purpose of spiral dynamics. You must find the heaviest cross you can carry, and try to carry it with the best of your abilities. If the cross is too heavy, find a lighter one. If the cross is too light, find a heavier one. In the end, we all must carry our own cross to the other side of Hell to get to Heaven.

When you are still afraid, but God gives you a small push. ---------------------------- When you get so high that you start looking for the ground. ----------------------------------------------------- When you start losing your grasp on reality. ------------------------------------------------------- When you start to gain back your grasp on reality. ------------------------------------------------------- When the dream is trying to seduce you. ----------------------------------------------------- Just for the LOLs!

When you believe that you are the prince that has to rescue the sleeping beauty. But then you realize that you were the beauty that has been asleep this whole time. To awaken, you must kiss yourself.

Does it help the self? If it helps you in practice, it is the right amount of theory. If it doesn't help in practice, it is the wrong amount of theory.