Raze

You clearly haven’t tried rejecting attractive women

Have you tried reiki healing?

https://www.amazon.com/What-Should-About-Politics-Fifth-dp-1648210074/dp/1648210074/ref=dp_ob_title_bk

Alternate media can spread the message in bite size formats like TikToks or Instagram hashtags and activist groups can form connections and stage organized campaigns to maintain it in public consciousness

Most Americans don’t like lobbyists controlling elections, so the media could expose them and bring more support to candidates who don’t take lobbyist funds.

So we need dems to use their power to actually deal with the fundamental issues instead of just enabling them to get worse, but they won’t as long as they are beholden to lobbyist interests

And one way to counter it is wake up the average democrat voter by pointing to the general electoral losses of the democrats. If it is clear to them republicans will keep beating them when it matters some will want to try something else.

Because in smaller elections the media doesn’t give equal coverage to progressive candidates and lobbyist funding floods the zone with support for the corporate candidates giving them a major advantage. Despite this progressives have gotten elected, 12 justice democrats endorsed candidates got into congress.

They are Obama staffers, it is because they do not challenge corporate power. Though I noticed Kamala didn’t even go on there when she was running, maybe it’s because one of them (I forget his name) has been pushing it with the Israel criticism. Polls showed that literally a majority of democrats thought Israel was conducting a genocide, yet I didn’t see a single interviewer pressure Kamala on this, it’s not because none would, it’s because the ones she would talk too wouldn’t. Either everyone’s fringe or fringe just means challenging the candidate in any way. Now democrats are complaining Biden dropped out to late, it was them and the outlets they went on that refused to criticize Biden’s age until way late in the game. Had Biden had to go on progressive outlets which actually warned about this it would have been exposed way earlier. Instead they stayed in an eco system of a hug box they created until it was too late and the disaster debate happened. It is another example of how the corporate media creates a bubble that ends up popping in their faces. Morning Joe on MSNBC was ranting about how Biden was the best he’s ever been and a maverick behind the scenes like a month before the debate where immediately after he said he should drop out. How can you complain about losing viewership to alt media when you do things like that? who is the disinformation propaganda at that point?

You and Leo have been blaming progressives for every Democrat failure for years now. The democrats just got to skip a primary while republicans had a divisive one, run against a historically unpopular candidate, have literally 3 times as much funding as him for their campaign, every mainstream news outlet except Fox News on their side with even tons of establishment republicans endorsing them, and the progressive role was so small Jill Stein got half the votes she got in 2016. And the result? they lost the popular vote for the first time in decades. What annoys me is you still are doubling down on blaming progressives. In what scenario can we justifiably say neoliberal democrats aren’t popular? Do they need 2 billion dollars to campaign? Do progressives need to be removed from even more aspects of the discussion, they are already relegated to fringe alt media. Is it ever the fault of the actual party that lost? You continue to excuse every aspect of corporate control of society when it generally sides with democrats when there is a direct line to that creating trump and not nonsense conspiracies that just excuse democrats for every failure rather than question the fundamental structure of the problem no matter how many times you lose. Why don’t you react to my comment by thinking “maybe if msnbc allowed criticism of the Iraq war and Obamas errors which partially created the trump phenomenon it would have maintained more populist legitimacy”. Trump got a lot of support for criticizing the Iraq war, many Obama to trump voters suffered due to Obamas trade deals which Cenk was criticizing when they happened. Instead you reflexively find an excuse to defend the multi million dollar company and blame the left who pointed out the issue. You don’t make things better by kneeling to the actual forces that fail and shooting the messenger who points out issues like somehow they caused it.

Most of the left including a large portion of the center was against Iraq, and Cenks criticism of Obama weren’t far left criticisms. They were fired because their opinions went against establishment power, not for being too far left. If being too far left was a problem they wouldn’t have so many shows defending transgederism or critical race theory which is much less popular among the center left, yet they do. Because those don’t threaten the establishment. MSNBC has destroyed itself with the Russiagate conspiracy and then doing a cover up for Biden’s decline, their ratings collapsed, they should give the far left a chance anyway as it does have a market.

They fired Phil Donahue for disagreeing with the Iraq war, they fired Cenk for criticizing Obama. Thats not center left, that is corporatism.

Sam has had debates in the past with Dan Carlin and Noam Chomsky https://web.archive.org/web/20211009072953/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O2F12IM9aA https://www.samharris.org/blog/the-limits-of-discourse