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You and Leo have been blaming progressives for every Democrat failure for years now. The democrats just got to skip a primary while republicans had a divisive one, run against a historically unpopular candidate, have literally 3 times as much funding as him for their campaign, every mainstream news outlet except Fox News on their side with even tons of establishment republicans endorsing them, and the progressive role was so small Jill Stein got half the votes she got in 2016. And the result? they lost the popular vote for the first time in decades. What annoys me is you still are doubling down on blaming progressives. In what scenario can we justifiably say neoliberal democrats aren’t popular? Do they need 2 billion dollars to campaign? Do progressives need to be removed from even more aspects of the discussion, they are already relegated to fringe alt media. Is it ever the fault of the actual party that lost? You continue to excuse every aspect of corporate control of society when it generally sides with democrats when there is a direct line to that creating trump and not nonsense conspiracies that just excuse democrats for every failure rather than question the fundamental structure of the problem no matter how many times you lose. Why don’t you react to my comment by thinking “maybe if msnbc allowed criticism of the Iraq war and Obamas errors which partially created the trump phenomenon it would have maintained more populist legitimacy”. Trump got a lot of support for criticizing the Iraq war, many Obama to trump voters suffered due to Obamas trade deals which Cenk was criticizing when they happened. Instead you reflexively find an excuse to defend the multi million dollar company and blame the left who pointed out the issue. You don’t make things better by kneeling to the actual forces that fail and shooting the messenger who points out issues like somehow they caused it.

Most of the left including a large portion of the center was against Iraq, and Cenks criticism of Obama weren’t far left criticisms. They were fired because their opinions went against establishment power, not for being too far left. If being too far left was a problem they wouldn’t have so many shows defending transgederism or critical race theory which is much less popular among the center left, yet they do. Because those don’t threaten the establishment. MSNBC has destroyed itself with the Russiagate conspiracy and then doing a cover up for Biden’s decline, their ratings collapsed, they should give the far left a chance anyway as it does have a market.

They fired Phil Donahue for disagreeing with the Iraq war, they fired Cenk for criticizing Obama. Thats not center left, that is corporatism.

Sam has had debates in the past with Dan Carlin and Noam Chomsky https://web.archive.org/web/20211009072953/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O2F12IM9aA https://www.samharris.org/blog/the-limits-of-discourse

Profit motive is fine if we have proper checks and balances to keep their incentives in the right direction

It’s worse because cnn and Fox News don’t pretend to be what they are not, whereas MSNBC pretends to represent the left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxSWtU0rfp4 https://www.girlschase.com/content/using-intrigue-get-girls-chasing-you

MSNBC is basically controlled opposition. They ban actual progressives and instead bring in corporate democrats to act like they are progressive. They pushed the russiagate hoax non-stop. If it was a truly progressive outlet and let people like Chris Hedges and Noam Chomsky on during its heyday so much of the public would have been aware of what damage the government was doing thst the media was hiding. Cable news is dying but older people still watch it and are more likely to vote, it would be nice if someone bought MSNBC and brought on journalists who actually wanted to challenge power.

He was given a strong schizophrenia medicine by his doctor but refused to take it

No you aren’t, you latch onto a preconceived notion of the problem, refuse to entertain any possibility it is wrong, then start Catastrophising about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBT1L_w43ko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy_gh6__EOQ

I’m specifically talking about misogyny as in disdain or hatred of women, it is common in jaded players, not simple indifference or even condescension.

https://www.hypnosisdownloads.com/bad-habits/cheek-biting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-moW9jvvMr4 https://www.shinzen.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/art_urges.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIK2DY5gtiU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPxZYN-Z2-I https://www.amazon.com/cheek-biting/s?k=cheek+biting

Like Emerald you are forgetting what is probably the most source cause of misogynistic behavior and beliefs in men, a man who didn’t start out a misogynist, was somewhat successful with women, then became misogynistic after bad experiences with women. It is a common trope called the jaded player. Even a woman named Norah Vincent who did an experiment where she tried dating women as a man said after a month she started having misogynistic thoughts despite herself being a woman who had dating women as a woman in the past.

What green idea does trump have?

He had many insecurities. The key issue was because of his autism he had difficulty socializing and because of his untreated schizophrenia he obsessed over specific insecurities and developed anger towards the world

Because they exist in the background and skirt public acknowledgment there is not enough to check their behavior and incentives for them to behave for the benefit of the public and not a small select group.

Toppling foreign governments, funding extremists, and massive corruption leading to disasters like the crack and opioid epidemic created untold chaos

The deep state and similar factions are causing society to split apart

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/how-israels-elite-intelligence-unit

This was tested. There was essentially no 2024 democrat primary, voting was cancelled in states and challengers got no coverage. Kamala was given the nomination without going through a primary, and democrats did even worse than they did in 2016. Progressives don’t win primaries because only a small segment of hardcore democrats vote in them.

That exists, but that doesn’t mean it is most misogynists, it’s also possible a man successful with woman becomes a misogynist from bad experiences.

It’s more likely that the lonely internet misogynist is a vocal minority, and it’s rather unlikely most misogynists began that way and learned pickup, it is rare for a guy to go from bad with women to good with women learning pickup, it’s not a big movement and most people just dabble. The study was surveying their misogynistic beliefs then matching that with how much they want to have sex compared to how much they have sex to see if less sexually successful men were less or more misogynistic.

More Bernie primary voters voted for Hillary then Hillary primary voters voted for Obama. Cenk got 5 percent in his election, his criticism doesn’t make a dent. Progressives had little impact, even Jill Stein got less votes then she did in 2016. Biden being criticized was not the problem, he was extremely unpopular and had to be pushed out otherwise trump would have landslided the country. Democrats lost way too badly for it to just be progressives, people simply do not like establishment democrats. Divisive primaries are irrelevant, republicans had extremely divisive primaries in 2016 and 2024 and won. Democrats didn’t even have a true primary in 2024 and lost badly.