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That’s the point, if the government because authoritarian and ban enough Americans with guns could have the option of outlasting them with guerrilla tactics

It matters because ceding the linguistic ground is the same as ceding land in a war, it is another layer of the battle, a more sophisticated and more important layer. If your enemy defines the narrative, you already lost .

That’s the point. They just use it to label whatever they want to apply power through linguistic manipulation. There are actual precise balanced definitions of crimes under international law but t governments delegitimize it for their own ends because they don’t want to be held to fair standards. So accepting their terrorism labels is just enabling them.

This is the definition of terrorism Where in there is there anything that would apply to suicide bombers that wouldn’t apply to countless US and Israeli operations. Right now the US is blockading Cuba and blockading and bombing Iran, both countries that did not attack it before they did that (making it unlawful aggression), for the stated reason of tormenting the people to achieve political goals. The only reason it’s not considering terrorism is because the US is doing it. If Al Qaeda did this exactly to the US they would be called terrorism. Its literally the same concept of misuse of definitions and lack of precision / double standards far leftists do for social causes, but being done by governments. If the judicial system charged people like this it would be considered an obviously corrupt kangaroo court. Imagine if the only people who get charged with murder were people they didn’t like and if someone they liked committed murder it’s not considered as bad and called something else.

That’s exactly the problem. That’s why terrorism isn’t considered an actual definition in international law. It ends up just meaning what those in power say it is. A suicide bomber blowing up a cafe for the stated aim of causing terror for political aim is called terrorism and used to justify force. The US or Israel drone striking an apartment or blockading a city for the stated aim of “pressure” is called justified. In both cases it’s aggression to cause terror mostly on civilians to force goals. But because one side has more power and a suit and tie we are expected to accept it and accept whatever they say in response to the other side. The US and Israel literally call direct attacks on their occupying soldiers terrorism, meanwhile they can try to starve people and engage in illegal occupation which international law recognizes is as bad or worse as anything they’d define as terror because it has the same justifications and causes the same harm.

That’s arbitrary then. If we use the definition of terrorism equally the US and Israel objectively do more.

Planes are hijacked to get hostages. Israel keeps plenty of civilians prisoner as bargaining chips. Effectively it’s the same, except a state is responsible for one.

If they were around today they would be called terrorists and the media would be discussing how it justifies killing more of them and taking more of their land

They would regularly raid settlements and slash children actually.

That’s not the case if it is a large enough majority, see how the US public turned against apartheid South Africa and eventually pressured big businesses and government to do the same. Also the National Security establishment wants to pivot to Asia so it doesn’t benefit from this. Even israel lobbyists in the US like Mark Dubowitz who are embedded in the government are also warning about it and calling for plans to stop it https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/israel-must-prepare-for-the-possibility-of-financial-warfare/

The UK just sanctioned settlements and nearly a majority of democrats in congress backed a resolution calling to end arm sales to Israel out of fear of their voters as pro Israel democrats are losing primaries right and left. This would only accelerate if Israel continues unpopular actions and as the israel critical youth becomes a larger majority and israel supportive older people become a smaller minority.

It doesn’t have to stop. They just have to say it will be stopped, or even partially stopped, if they don’t listen. This would disempower fanatics in Israel as the public would see their future economic prosperity would be in jeopardy if they continue to be allowed to act unabated.

1) The terror that caused the war on terror happened because of US support for Israel, israel never actually helped with that, their most significant assistance was joining the US in helping Syrian rebels topple Assad and some rebel groups were closer to the terror than Assad, Jake Sullivan himself said the US was on the same side as Al Qaeda. Iraq, Libya, Iran, and Syria had nothing to do with Al Qaeda terror on the US, yet the war on terror took that direction targeting them because it served israel or US hegemony in some form. There is no rational reason for the US to be at war with Iran other than Iran has issues with Israel. Iran has proposed peace deals repeatedly and has only ever directly used force in response to attacks. The US also can’t long term keep attacking it otherwise we’d have economic consequences due to its ability to attack trade and energy infrastructure. The future for US power is in Asia, Israel constantly dragging the US to the Middle East harmed the empire. 2) Young people already soured on israel and don’t have the same pro-Israel news sources, so even if that happens I don’t think it’ll have the same effect. Even if it does long term it will just delay the same trend which already occurred, the US public support for israel after 9/11 was huge but it still ended up turning away after two decades. 3) Without US or European trade Israel would be economically devastated. If the US and Europe start sanctioning them over specific actions related to Palestine it would not be economically feasible to continue it. Israel is a highly economically stratified society with a large amount of debt. It would go the way of Rhodesia if it weren’t for the large amount of international cooperation, and the wealthy segment of the Israeli public wouldn’t accept that, they’d be forced to either vote against it or leave.

The moment the US or Europe gives them the slightest actual pushback they immediately relent historically. They simply can’t sustain what they’re doing unless the US and Europe lets it slide.

Once the boomers aren’t a significant block anymore, it’ll be literally a 80 - 20 issue in the US and Europe. Literally all that has to happen is the US stops vetoing at the UN and Europe follows international law. Let alone if the US starts following it which democrat voters are pushing for now.

I don’t think so. The reason terrorism happened was because the US and Europe blocked all legal and diplomatic means of pushback for nearly a century at Israel’s behest. Since public opinion has shifted this is starting to change. Terrorism isn’t necessary when political solutions are available. And before you deny it, studies on the history of terrorist groups found in almost all cases the militant activities were stopped when they were allowed into the political system and turned into political parties or their grievance was politically addressed.

https://shafaq.com/en/Middle-East/Israel-planning-aviation-attack-to-blame-Iran-Fars Seems Iran is claiming it’s a false flag attempt.

- Less than 3% of the Bangladesh population was killed, according to you people Gaza wasn’t a genocide because it was only 3% (it wasn’t, it is closer to 5%), you have hypocritical double standards - Israel is Pakistani in this scenario massacring Palestinians who seek independence. - Please stop the tough guy masculinity act everytime someone disagrees with you, you already admitted elsewhere you’re a schizoid loner, not exactly masculine to not leave your house and have no friends

No, Likud wins because it promises both supremacy and security. The pitch is that they can oppress and kill Palestinians as much as they want without having fear of their quality of life or security ever declining. Rabin was assassinated because he was suggesting they’d need to compromise and give Palestinians some rights or their security and international support would worsen too much. The left parties in Israel fail because on one hand the population fears they may end their supremacy over the Palestinians and on the other the left tries to avoid that criticism by outflanking Netanyahu from the right, thus losing credibility as people will just choose the one with the track record of using ruthless force on the people of Palestine. Netanyahu is popular because he pushes the idea they can subjugate Palestinians forever and still have security and international support. That was the idea behind the Abraham accords and pushing for US intervention in the region, to use Americans as the tax cattle and meat shields to enforce Israel’s position without compromising on ending their subjugation and destruction of Palestinians. That’s why on Oct 7 all the Zionists fully supported Israel taking the opportunity to eliminate the Palestinians and escalate aggression to try and turn Iran into a failed state like Syria, which is what they always wanted but lacked the pretext to do without losing their international support. The issue is this failed, international pressure did limit their action in Palestine (they had to end the starvation siege), and Iran survived the attacks. So liberal Zionists are reverting back to their prior message that actually they just want peace so everyone should still support Israel because they are secretly against what is happening, instead allowing israel to shift back to the incremental approach of slowly destroying Palestine and pushing for cracking down on international critics to buy time to do it further.

Post any video you found funny

Wrong. Palestinians are massively divided and it’s been a common discussion about how Israel exploits said divisions and the attempts to unite them.

That’s ridiculous. It’s nothing inherent to Jews. It is a pattern in human societies to resent and blame minority groups particularly unassimilated ones. Americans did it to native Americans and blacks. Israelis themselves are doing it to Palestinians. What you’re referring to is a European phenomenon caused by long periods of Jews being culturally distinct minorities. Economic success also added to it through class resentments which is another pattern. Also it wasn’t even a desire to kill all Jews for most of European history, it just escalated to that when criticism shifted from religious to racial. That isn’t inherent to humans, Jews lived peacefully in the Muslim world for long periods of time, the issues and racism that did occur was of a different character and more similar to issues of other groups in the region due to different culture and structures of societies. See the Black Plague, it effected both Europe and the Muslim world, but you didn’t see the Muslim world targeting Jews over it like Europe did at the time. Jews also lived in India with little pushback. Irregardless just point blank assuming we can’t criticize Israel because we may secretly be antisemitic is illogical. Supporting Israel has been what actually resulted in increasing antisemitism. Scientific data finds antisemitic activity increases when israel engages in aggression. If israel was criticized more and earlier and the critics weren’t repressed, antisemitism wouldn’t have increased like it has. For decades israel critics in the US for leftist Jews and liberal academics who got stomped on and accused of antisemitism no matter how balanced their arguments. Because they failed now elements of the far right is criticizing Israel and framing it as racial grievances, and using the constant censorship as proof of Jewish control. This actually caused antisemitism, and was the result of a lack of support for criticism prior which weakened the critics who didn’t push this line. If we created israel we should stop idiotically empowering every fanatic and warmonger there to the point where they are wrecking the global economy. If we enter a recession because of the Iran shit the amount of antisemitism is going to be immense and the only people who are trying to stop it are the ones who Zionists are constantly calling antisemitic for calling out their toxic behavior and ridiculous plots.

Maybe because the US and Europe is paying for Israel to do it, it’s been going on longer, and Israel’s aggression is risking wrecking the world economy and causing nuclear proliferation at this point.

@Leo Gura you should add an update to that video or make a sequel with this in mind.