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It doesn’t have to stop. They just have to say it will be stopped, or even partially stopped, if they don’t listen.

1) The terror that caused the war on terror happened because of US support for Israel, israel never actually helped with that, their most significant assistance was joining the US in helping Syrian rebels topple Assad and some rebel groups were closer to the terror than Assad, Jake Sullivan himself said the US was on the same side as Al Qaeda. Iraq, Libya, Iran, and Syria had nothing to do with Al Qaeda terror on the US, yet the war on terror took that direction targeting them because it served israel or US hegemony in some form. There is no rational reason for the US to be at war with Iran other than Iran has issues with Israel. Iran has proposed peace deals repeatedly and has only ever directly used force in response to attacks. The US also can’t long term keep attacking it otherwise we’d have economic consequences due to its ability to attack trade and energy infrastructure. The future for US power is in Asia, Israel constantly dragging the US to the Middle East harmed the empire. 2) Young people already soured on israel and don’t have the same pro-Israel news sources, so even if that happens I don’t think it’ll have the same effect. Even if it does long term it will just delay the same trend which already occurred, the US public support for israel after 9/11 was huge but it still ended up turning away after two decades. 3) Without US or European trade Israel would be economically devastated. If the US and Europe start sanctioning them over specific actions related to Palestine it would not be economically feasible to continue it. Israel is a highly economically stratified society with a large amount of debt. It would go the way of Rhodesia if it weren’t for the large amount of international cooperation, and the wealthy segment of the Israeli public wouldn’t accept that, they’d be forced to either vote against it or leave.

The moment the US or Europe gives them the slightest actual pushback they immediately relent historically. They simply can’t sustain what they’re doing unless the US and Europe lets it slide.

Once the boomers aren’t a significant block anymore, it’ll be literally a 80 - 20 issue in the US and Europe. Literally all that has to happen is the US stops vetoing at the UN and Europe follows international law. Let alone if the US starts following it which democrat voters are pushing for now.

I don’t think so. The reason terrorism happened was because the US and Europe blocked all legal and diplomatic means of pushback for nearly a century at Israel’s behest. Since public opinion has shifted this is starting to change. Terrorism isn’t necessary when political solutions are available. And before you deny it, studies on the history of terrorist groups found in almost all cases the militant activities were stopped when they were allowed into the political system and turned into political parties or their grievance was politically addressed.

https://shafaq.com/en/Middle-East/Israel-planning-aviation-attack-to-blame-Iran-Fars Seems Iran is claiming it’s a false flag attempt.

- Less than 3% of the Bangladesh population was killed, according to you people Gaza wasn’t a genocide because it was only 3% (it wasn’t, it is closer to 5%), you have hypocritical double standards - Israel is Pakistani in this scenario massacring Palestinians who seek independence. - Please stop the tough guy masculinity act everytime someone disagrees with you, you already admitted elsewhere you’re a schizoid loner, not exactly masculine to not leave your house and have no friends

No, Likud wins because it promises both supremacy and security. The pitch is that they can oppress and kill Palestinians as much as they want without having fear of their quality of life or security ever declining. Rabin was assassinated because he was suggesting they’d need to compromise and give Palestinians some rights or their security and international support would worsen too much. The left parties in Israel fail because on one hand the population fears they may end their supremacy over the Palestinians and on the other the left tries to avoid that criticism by outflanking Netanyahu from the right, thus losing credibility as people will just choose the one with the track record of using ruthless force on the people of Palestine. Netanyahu is popular because he pushes the idea they can subjugate Palestinians forever and still have security and international support. That was the idea behind the Abraham accords and pushing for US intervention in the region, to use Americans as the tax cattle and meat shields to enforce Israel’s position without compromising on ending their subjugation and destruction of Palestinians. That’s why on Oct 7 all the Zionists fully supported Israel taking the opportunity to eliminate the Palestinians and escalate aggression to try and turn Iran into a failed state like Syria, which is what they always wanted but lacked the pretext to do without losing their international support. The issue is this failed, international pressure did limit their action in Palestine (they had to end the starvation siege), and Iran survived the attacks. So liberal Zionists are reverting back to their prior message that actually they just want peace so everyone should still support Israel because they are secretly against what is happening, instead allowing israel to shift back to the incremental approach of slowly destroying Palestine and pushing for cracking down on international critics to buy time to do it further.

Wrong. Palestinians are massively divided and it’s been a common discussion about how Israel exploits said divisions and the attempts to unite them.

That’s ridiculous. It’s nothing inherent to Jews. It is a pattern in human societies to resent and blame minority groups particularly unassimilated ones. Americans did it to native Americans and blacks. Israelis themselves are doing it to Palestinians. What you’re referring to is a European phenomenon caused by long periods of Jews being culturally distinct minorities. Economic success also added to it through class resentments which is another pattern. Also it wasn’t even a desire to kill all Jews for most of European history, it just escalated to that when criticism shifted from religious to racial. That isn’t inherent to humans, Jews lived peacefully in the Muslim world for long periods of time, the issues and racism that did occur was of a different character and more similar to issues of other groups in the region due to different culture and structures of societies. See the Black Plague, it effected both Europe and the Muslim world, but you didn’t see the Muslim world targeting Jews over it like Europe did at the time. Jews also lived in India with little pushback. Irregardless just point blank assuming we can’t criticize Israel because we may secretly be antisemitic is illogical. Supporting Israel has been what actually resulted in increasing antisemitism. Scientific data finds antisemitic activity increases when israel engages in aggression. If israel was criticized more and earlier and the critics weren’t repressed, antisemitism wouldn’t have increased like it has. For decades israel critics in the US for leftist Jews and liberal academics who got stomped on and accused of antisemitism no matter how balanced their arguments. Because they failed now elements of the far right is criticizing Israel and framing it as racial grievances, and using the constant censorship as proof of Jewish control. This actually caused antisemitism, and was the result of a lack of support for criticism prior which weakened the critics who didn’t push this line. If we created israel we should stop idiotically empowering every fanatic and warmonger there to the point where they are wrecking the global economy. If we enter a recession because of the Iran shit the amount of antisemitism is going to be immense and the only people who are trying to stop it are the ones who Zionists are constantly calling antisemitic for calling out their toxic behavior and ridiculous plots.

Maybe because the US and Europe is paying for Israel to do it, it’s been going on longer, and Israel’s aggression is risking wrecking the world economy and causing nuclear proliferation at this point.

@Leo Gura you should add an update to that video or make a sequel with this in mind.

- Israel was using the US to strong arm Saudi Arabia into normalizing with it without ending the occupation of Palestine, trying to make their oppression permanent. Oct 7 stopped it for now. - Exposed the Zionist idea that they can occupy millions of Palestinians without significant enough issues as false, the occupation has a cost in security and economics. That’s exactly how French Algeria ended. - Brought the attention of the world right when Israel’s masked slipped and the world saw their true face, israel is now the most hated country in the world particularly among young people - It doesn’t matter what it accomplished or not. When I hear about the Warsaw Ghetto uprising or the Nat Turner rebellion my first thought isn’t “what did that accomplish? You all died”, my first thought is why the world allows people to go through the nightmare of oppression that leads them to do something like that.

The goal of the siege of Berlin wasn’t to destroy the population to replace them. The goal was to capture the capital of a independent nation state that has launched aggression at them. As soon as that happened it stopped and they began to rebuild Germany. The Israelis are rather doing to Palestinians more like what Americans did to native Americans, destroy them to replace them. If after the Soviets defeated Germany they then kept the Germans under permanent subjugation and brought in Russians to move into their homes and forced Germans into a ghetto and then later began trying to destroy them there declaring Germans don’t exist, that would be genocidal. Gaza isn’t a independent nation state, it’s a ghetto israel has blockaded and attacked for decades. A third of those killed on Oct 7 were Israeli security forces. Israel considers blockades acts of war and kept Gaza under blockade. So by your logic Oct 7 isn’t terrorism because israel made itself a legitimate war target. Those were the goals from the beginning as seen by multiple statements and acts. They tried to block all water and the US had to force them to stop. In the Rwanda genocide and the holocaust, there were multiple attempts at expelling portions of the targeted population. Also insisting Gaza can’t be a genocide because it’s not like the holocaust or Rwanda is like saying Iraq and Syria couldn’t be wars because they weren’t like world war 1 or 2. Those are two larger examples, but not the definition. Gaza fits just fine with the Bosnian genocide or Yazidi genocide.