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Planes are hijacked to get hostages. Israel keeps plenty of civilians prisoner as bargaining chips. Effectively it’s the same, except a state is responsible for one.

If they were around today they would be called terrorists and the media would be discussing how it justifies killing more of them and taking more of their land

They would regularly raid settlements and slash children actually.

That’s not the case if it is a large enough majority, see how the US public turned against apartheid South Africa and eventually pressured big businesses and government to do the same. Also the National Security establishment wants to pivot to Asia so it doesn’t benefit from this. Even israel lobbyists in the US like Mark Dubowitz who are embedded in the government are also warning about it and calling for plans to stop it https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/israel-must-prepare-for-the-possibility-of-financial-warfare/

The UK just sanctioned settlements and nearly a majority of democrats in congress backed a resolution calling to end arm sales to Israel out of fear of their voters as pro Israel democrats are losing primaries right and left. This would only accelerate if Israel continues unpopular actions and as the israel critical youth becomes a larger majority and israel supportive older people become a smaller minority.

It doesn’t have to stop. They just have to say it will be stopped, or even partially stopped, if they don’t listen. This would disempower fanatics in Israel as the public would see their future economic prosperity would be in jeopardy if they continue to be allowed to act unabated.

1) The terror that caused the war on terror happened because of US support for Israel, israel never actually helped with that, their most significant assistance was joining the US in helping Syrian rebels topple Assad and some rebel groups were closer to the terror than Assad, Jake Sullivan himself said the US was on the same side as Al Qaeda. Iraq, Libya, Iran, and Syria had nothing to do with Al Qaeda terror on the US, yet the war on terror took that direction targeting them because it served israel or US hegemony in some form. There is no rational reason for the US to be at war with Iran other than Iran has issues with Israel. Iran has proposed peace deals repeatedly and has only ever directly used force in response to attacks. The US also can’t long term keep attacking it otherwise we’d have economic consequences due to its ability to attack trade and energy infrastructure. The future for US power is in Asia, Israel constantly dragging the US to the Middle East harmed the empire. 2) Young people already soured on israel and don’t have the same pro-Israel news sources, so even if that happens I don’t think it’ll have the same effect. Even if it does long term it will just delay the same trend which already occurred, the US public support for israel after 9/11 was huge but it still ended up turning away after two decades. 3) Without US or European trade Israel would be economically devastated. If the US and Europe start sanctioning them over specific actions related to Palestine it would not be economically feasible to continue it. Israel is a highly economically stratified society with a large amount of debt. It would go the way of Rhodesia if it weren’t for the large amount of international cooperation, and the wealthy segment of the Israeli public wouldn’t accept that, they’d be forced to either vote against it or leave.

The moment the US or Europe gives them the slightest actual pushback they immediately relent historically. They simply can’t sustain what they’re doing unless the US and Europe lets it slide.

Once the boomers aren’t a significant block anymore, it’ll be literally a 80 - 20 issue in the US and Europe. Literally all that has to happen is the US stops vetoing at the UN and Europe follows international law. Let alone if the US starts following it which democrat voters are pushing for now.

I don’t think so. The reason terrorism happened was because the US and Europe blocked all legal and diplomatic means of pushback for nearly a century at Israel’s behest. Since public opinion has shifted this is starting to change. Terrorism isn’t necessary when political solutions are available. And before you deny it, studies on the history of terrorist groups found in almost all cases the militant activities were stopped when they were allowed into the political system and turned into political parties or their grievance was politically addressed.

https://shafaq.com/en/Middle-East/Israel-planning-aviation-attack-to-blame-Iran-Fars Seems Iran is claiming it’s a false flag attempt.

- Less than 3% of the Bangladesh population was killed, according to you people Gaza wasn’t a genocide because it was only 3% (it wasn’t, it is closer to 5%), you have hypocritical double standards - Israel is Pakistani in this scenario massacring Palestinians who seek independence. - Please stop the tough guy masculinity act everytime someone disagrees with you, you already admitted elsewhere you’re a schizoid loner, not exactly masculine to not leave your house and have no friends

No, Likud wins because it promises both supremacy and security. The pitch is that they can oppress and kill Palestinians as much as they want without having fear of their quality of life or security ever declining. Rabin was assassinated because he was suggesting they’d need to compromise and give Palestinians some rights or their security and international support would worsen too much. The left parties in Israel fail because on one hand the population fears they may end their supremacy over the Palestinians and on the other the left tries to avoid that criticism by outflanking Netanyahu from the right, thus losing credibility as people will just choose the one with the track record of using ruthless force on the people of Palestine. Netanyahu is popular because he pushes the idea they can subjugate Palestinians forever and still have security and international support. That was the idea behind the Abraham accords and pushing for US intervention in the region, to use Americans as the tax cattle and meat shields to enforce Israel’s position without compromising on ending their subjugation and destruction of Palestinians. That’s why on Oct 7 all the Zionists fully supported Israel taking the opportunity to eliminate the Palestinians and escalate aggression to try and turn Iran into a failed state like Syria, which is what they always wanted but lacked the pretext to do without losing their international support. The issue is this failed, international pressure did limit their action in Palestine (they had to end the starvation siege), and Iran survived the attacks. So liberal Zionists are reverting back to their prior message that actually they just want peace so everyone should still support Israel because they are secretly against what is happening, instead allowing israel to shift back to the incremental approach of slowly destroying Palestine and pushing for cracking down on international critics to buy time to do it further.

Wrong. Palestinians are massively divided and it’s been a common discussion about how Israel exploits said divisions and the attempts to unite them.