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Studies find giving populations an electoral voice with the government that rules over them reduces political violence historically.

If Russia defeats Ukraine, occupies the whole country, and spends the next four decades killing them, stealing from them, and brutalizing them, and the entire world not only doesn’t sanction Russia but actually celebrates and supports them, that would happen. And a third of the Israelis killed on Oct 7 were soldiers or police. They act like it was just a massacre of defenseless civilians for propaganda purposes, most of the fighting was Hamas attacking military bases used to imprison Gaza. Chechnya is another example, after decades of violence from Russia their resistance became more extreme and began using suicide bombings and kidnappings. Again the idea Palestinian resistance is abnormally brutal or irrational is ahistorical propaganda, in comparable situations they’ve actually been far less extreme than similar oppressed populations. South African apartheid wasn’t nearly as long or as brutal and they absolutely refused to end armed resistance until their goals were met. Meanwhile the PA has given up armed resistance in favor of diplomacy despite the situation being far worse and their diplomatic attempts being far less effective.

That’s not an accurate video. This guy made a response explaining how her claims were false, he’s also extremely anti-redpill and anti-manosphere so he’s not against her feminist slant by itself:

It’s actually worse because Russia only started attacking and occupying. Israel was constantly occupying and attacking Palestine. It would be more like saying Ukrainians provoke Russia by fighting the ones actively attacking them on their land today.

What makes you think they don’t understand that? You could say the same as Nat Turner or Spartacus. They were enslaved and knew they had no chance. The reason is because they were defending themselves from the ongoing violence, they were the ones provoked by their oppressors. Even if they had no chance, in the same way if someone bigger than you was constantly beating you up you’d take a Hail Mary chance rather than accept the abuse forever because you fear it could get worse.

So what should they have done here to not “provoke the bear”, this was prior to Oct 7:

How should this person have not provoked the bear in your opinion? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flh25kzYFWo

That’s ridiculous. The idea israel gave Gaza to Hamas is hasbara nonsense. When Hamas won the election exit polls showed even the majority of Hamas voters supported two states and were voting against the PLO because of corruption and failing to get a state despite store recognizing Israel and ending armed resistance. When Hamas won it offered a long term ceasefire in exchange for ending the occupation. Instead israel launched a violent coup and when that failed put Gaza under a blockade. It was a massive ghetto and prison. Leaked emails show they admitted the goal was to keep the economy on the brink of collapse to torture the civilian population. Gaza didn’t attack for no reason on Oct 7. Israel was using the US to strong arm middle eastern states into normalizing with them without ending the occupation, hoping to lock the Palestinians into subjugation forever. That is the equivalent of if the US government surrounds your town with soldiers, won’t let barely anyone leave, purposefully limits goods so the economy is always borderline collapsing, periodically arrests hundreds and kills thousands including shooting peaceful protesters, then tried to make a deal behind your back to keep you there forever, and you bust out and attack, and we use that to conclude you are suicidal and they have no choice. You are falling for propaganda. The former Israeli prime minister admitted if Palestinians asked for equality it would destroy Israel. No, you don’t. The Palestinian resistance only became primarily Islamist after decades of the secular resistance failing. Palestinians are one of the most well educated populations in the world with one of the highest literacy rate. Israel just blocks economic development. Palestinians lived peacefully with a Jewish and Christian minority for centuries before Zionism, they integrated refugee populations like the Armenians. The problem with Zionism was it was a hostile colonist movement that was trying to steal their homeland. Not because they had low development and couldn’t handle minorities existing. The entire Arab league already offered full normalization with Israel if they end the occupation. Palestinians also agreed to this in the PA. Israel said no. The majority of the Arab world and even Iran supported turning the entire Middle East into a nuclear weapon free zone. Israel said no. The Palestinian leadership in the West Bank is literally having their homeland torn apart by settlers and won’t even defend themselves and instead are using diplomacy. Israel said no. Hamas proposed multiple diplomatic off ramps repeatedly before Oct 7 and repeatedly asked the blockade lifted. Israel said no. The idea the Arab world is crazy and just suicidal and israel is just defending themselves is complete nonsense, especially now. They are bending over backwards to try and resolve the issue peacefully but Israel’s aggression makes this impossible. This was also never the case btw. Israel’s claim the Arab world tried to genocide them out of nowhere is complete nonsense. No military documents show that was the goal of the Arab armies in 1948 and they never attempted any mass killing of civilians (Israel did this in the same period btw) and they only attacked after israel already expelled hundreds of thousands of civilians In 67 they only attacked after israel bombed them In 73 Egypt offered multiple diplomatic proposals to return the Sinai but Israel rejected them, only then did they invade. When israel actually gave the Sinai back they haven’t attacked since despite Israel’s aggression against Palestinians and other countries continuing. If Arabs are just crazy why did israel agree to this when they’d know they’d break it? Because they knew they wouldn’t, they know they’re the aggressors and if they actually want peace it happens when they agree.

The reverse is much more likely. The narrative Israel just wanted peace and was defending itself from crazy Arab aggressors is complete hasbara nonsense. Israeli officials themselves admitted if they were Palestinians they’d fight Israel because they would want to defend themselves from Israel’s occupation hundreds of thousands of Palestinian citizens live in Israel and despite facing constant racism and discrimination Israelis don’t fear them whatsoever, aside from general racial disdain. They know it’s because they don’t have reason to fight Israel like the occupied Palestinians they are trying to destroy. Even in the West Bank under the occupation initially the population was passive for decades despite constant abuse until finally they started reacting with intifadas as it got worse. Look at how West Bank Palestinians behaved to Israel in the last two years, Israel is openly bragging about destroying them and supporting settler pogroms every week, and they won’t even defend themselves largely. Now compare that to Israel which is literally bombing and trying to topple other countries which have done barely anything to them which was already in response to prior aggression. Palestinians are fighting for survival, Israel is fighting for expansion. If Palestinians could survive, they’d cease fighting. Israel hasn't faced a serious outside threat in decades and is launching wars constantly. Somehow decades of Israeli propaganda has created the backwards narrative the people who they are trying to destroy are the aggressors because they sometimes defend themselves (again only sometimes, most of the time they just don’t respond the content aggression), and they are the real victims while openly saying they are trying to destroy a people and actively doing it, and if you disagree will say you’re trying to destroy them. Complete projection.

It doesn’t insist on the right of return, it calls for a just solution to the right of return to be negotiated. The PA already said they aren’t calling for a full right of return. Most people on the ground have concluded two states is impossible because of the settlements. Which is why the two states argument has become a distraction to wait for opportunities to ethnically cleanse Palestinians. The Arab peace initiative is the actual two states solution in line with international law btw. The fact you’re still against it just shows the point two staters aren’t actually serious about what is needed to create two states. https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2026-09-01/ty-article/.premium/israel-isnt-debating-a-palestinian-state-its-preparing-for-expulsion/000001a0-56c1-dc19-a5a4-dfdfa0fd0000

You sanction israel until they accept the arab peace initiative. Terrorists attacking Israel isn’t why Israel does what it does, it uses that as an excuse. Funding Hamas to build West Bank settlements isn’t to combat terrorism, rejecting Hamas disarmament because you want to expel the civilians population isn’t to combat terrorism.

Are you low testosterone or low vitamin D?