TheAlchemist

Loving the veird vibes ? maybe its the mouse energy I'm feeling

What really helps me in my pain and suffering is seeing God as absolute, total innocence. That child-like innocence is being expressed through every moment that ever is, here and now, but never with the slightest ill intent, just the grandest possible art experiment in the whole universe. Losing itself to itself, trusting that Love will always prevail no matter what. Like a child who is loved unconditionally and absolutely. That child will not be afraid to stumble and fall, it will not fear punishment, and will express itself fully and authentically by laughing, singing, dancing, jumping from joy and crying from pain, but it's all okay, since it knows that it is loved no matter what. The universe is like a child with a heart full of love and a mind that wants to experience everything, with full trust that it is carried, that it is loved, that it is all okay, no matter what.

This thread is putting me in an interesting state of consciousness to say the least. Not because I don't like what Leo is saying, but also not because I take what he says as some given truth. Just taking it in as a pointer to direct experience here and now, see if something is stirred up. Surf along with it, without sticking too much to either side. Don't totally dismiss it, but don't totally believe it either. Maybe something is being said, which isn't what it seems at first glance, but also what it isn't if analyzed too deeply. Perfectly in between, balanced. I mean this whole thread, it's just beautiful.

It could very well be something like that. That's a good point yeah.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism Definition of racism: 1: a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race also : behavior or attitudes that reflect and foster this belief : racial discrimination or prejudice 2: the systemic oppression of a racial group to the social, economic, and political advantage of another To me it seems tribalism is the symptom of the biological imperative to favor genes that are closer to ones own. Racism on the other hand, as defined above, I don't see an inherent biological imperative for. Any tribal "us" group that goes beyond racial boundaries is evidence that race is not that relevant. It's a classic situation of correlation not implying causation. Just because tribes have mostly been based around similiar skin color/genes, does not mean that it is inherent to tribal dynamics. Tribal dynamics can easily trump any biological/genetic features of humans, especially since all humans are genetically extremely similiar. Based on the Human Genome project humans are genetically 99.9% the same, and the whole concept of "race" based on a few very minor differences in genes that determin skin pigment and some few other features, puts the whole categorization into races in the first place on shaky ground. Imagine "specieism" instead of racism. There we similarly (springing off the racism definition) have the "belief that ones species is a fundamental determinant of traits of Life and capacities and that species differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular species.". Sure it is hard coded in the genes for humans to favor their own species over others, but setting up a system of dominion over other species, where they are systematically opressed to the social, economic and political advantage of humans as we do, is not "natural" in a sense. I say this because we have examples of societies that operate in a sustainable way, without making other species extinct or locking them up in cages and opressing them in other ways. We are so used to being "specieist" that we assume it is natural to set up and maintain large systems of domination based on ones species. So within this analogy between species, the equivalent of "tribalism" might be "humanism", whereas the equivalent of "racism" might be "specieism". So, humans within the whole of life are naturally humanist, but not necessarily specieist. In the same way humans within the whole of humanity might be tribalist, but not necessarily racist. Anyone get what I'm trying to say? ?

@Leo Gura it is a different molecule though, and based on reports in the above video for example, the effects have some of the core spiritual/mystical effects of 5-meo but without any hallucinations or loss of functioning, overwhelming fear or bodily stress etc.

Well said. "Becoming pure in the process" can feel like getting your nervous system ripped out through your left nostril...

I mean it was an international school, there were not even that many arabs there. People from Ghana, Nigeria, Sri Lanka, South America, Philippines, Thailand etc. Good representation of most major ethnicities. There was no "weird feeling" among the kids since everyone was part of the same "tribe". Sure, you see the difference in appearance, but if it's not associated with any more sense of "other" than a person that looks more similiar, it won't cause any racist response. That person is just one of "us". A baby and a 90 year old grandpa look drastically different to each other, you might even say "alien". Yet they can very easily feel part of the same tribe.

@LSD-Rumi My point is that Us vs. Them is wired, but racism might not be. Us vs. Them is tribalism, but we can easily, and commonly do identify people of different race/skin color as being part of our tribe. The racism is when we categorize some arbitrary physical feature like skin color as being representative of a certain "them" group. In the right historical conditions you could brew a culture where prejudice develops against red haired people, just because that physical attribute was attached to a "them" group in peoples minds and they learned to immediately "feel weird" when they saw it. Children don't "feel weird" about people with different skin color. I lived abroad in the middle east as a kid and went to a school with people from all over the world. As children going to school together, being part of the same "tribe" there was not even a thought about someone being different because of their skin color, or any other physical attributes. Children of all skin colors and so called races played together sonce they were part of the same tribe. In that environment, that weird feeling you speak of might have come up if strangers or people from another school/tribe appeared, no matter the skin color. So my point is that racism is likely not wired, as we can clearly see with the redhead example and the existence of multiracial tribal "us" groups. With skin color, compared to other physical attributes it is so deeply entrenched in modern western minds and culture, so it is hard to see. But tribalism, us vs. them thinking, surely is wired and very "human".

Do you hold the belief that racism is natural/wired? I was thinking that since there are and have been societies where race or skin color is not a big deal at all, where it is just one attribute like the color of your eyes or hair; that would mean that racism might just be a unique phenomenon in some cultures. I think that if we believe it is something natural and wired into the human mind, then we will collectively not be as proactive in trying to change that tendency in our societies. If we see it as a social construction to begin with (which it might be) then we can at least have the collective vision of slowly removing racism from our minds, society and our intitutions. Tribalism ≠ racism

Ok got it, fair point. Creativity is making novel connections. What about that which is the "first" thing imagined? Is there a mode of imagination that isn't inspired by anything?

Point well made. But do you think it would be fair to say this also applies to your creative work and your teachings/videos? Does creativity and art ultimately boil down to mixing and matching existing figments of mind OR is it possible to imagine something totally new from nothing? I think this discussion about AI vs human art boils down to this. The human artists like to think they are doing pure art, which they see as spawning something from outside of existing reality into reality through their imagination, whereas the AI is seen as just rearranging figments of current reality/what has been imagined already. "What is creation?" is an extremely interesting question for sure.

This is the biggest quantum leap in visual art since the dawn of creation itself. And here we are to witness it unfold. If you see that art ever had impact potential or transformative power on individuals or the collective; well this just put whatever that effect is into hyperdrive. Just wow. This AI is second only to God in its creative power. That's what floors us I think, it reminds us of the unfathomable imagination of the Great Imaginer, aka. God, which imagines all form.

This is mindblowing! Please keep sharing your creativity

@Leo Gura how about countries where the death penalty has been abolished for many decades or even a century already? That is most nations of the world. Should the death penalty be brought back there? Maybe some societies produce less extreme criminals, school shooters and serial killers per capita than the USA? So by killing them off, it haves us miss out understanding the phenomenon better by studying those most extreme people, and how systems could be put in palce to reduce the amount of people that end up raging against humanity.

I know what you're getting at, but "is it still valid?" gives the slight impression that what Leo says is taken on as some kind of doctrine. I think what you're asking is if Leo still agrees with what he said in the past. But just incase you or someone else takes what Leo says as truth, just because he said it, I want to say this: What's said in Leo's videos is not valid just because Leo says so. What is said in Leo's videos can only "become" valid for you if it can be validated in your direct experience. It's best to look at this content critically but with an open mind, to see and look for yourself if it's true. When faced with the deepest questions, trusting anyone but yourself will result in total disappointment and will not result in seeing what you yearn to see. Don't hand out your authority to anyone, not even the one who is telling you to not hand out your authority.

Some very practical suggestions on grounding and integration after a 5-meo-dmt or other deep psychedelic trip. At first I didn't think much of it, since there were some odd/unconventional suggestions in this guide. But after some heaving sweating in a sauna the week after a deep 5-meo journey, I realized how important bodily grounding after a deep trip is. I felt a deep bliss and integration of a sort of ungrounded energy that had been lingering in my body and mind after the 5-meo experience for a while. I am sure many of the other practices can be very helpful as well. Integration-Guidelines-CONCLAVE-28.05.18 (1).pdf

Those channels have been banned since March https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/11/youtube-is-now-blocking-russia-state-affiliated-media-globally/

I will soon be leaving to India and some other countries for a few months at least to travel around and see the world. I don't want to just be comfortable and have some pleasures etc. I'm not thinking of this as a "holiday" or something, but as an opportunity for deep growth, both spiritual and psychological. I would love to hear your tips and advice on how to really get the most out of an experience like this.

I think Michael Taft is one, if I remember correctly he said he has done LSD 700 times or something. Daniel Ingram says it is possible but very rare to permanently awaken through psychedelics

@TheOneReborn You're right, there is a lot of bullshiting going on. I have previously been to India and have seen this phenomenon in myself. But also in my previous travels I have learned things even when going into them with that naive mindset. Last time I traveled abroad I had in my mind this sense that the travel will somehow suddenly change me, but I had the realization that nothing ever changes based on the environment I am in, and that environment doesn't matter really. It was a deep disappointment. And yet, that disappointment was an extremely valuable lesson. No longer could I delude myself that my fulfillment lies somewhere in the future, or somewhere "out there", and was forced to dig deeper. A sort of karma burning process was catalyzed by that total disappointment. If I didn't do those journeys, I could be holding a false belief in my mind up to my retirement "one day I will travel the world and finally be fulfilled", never moving past that belief since I don't allow myself to experience it as soon as possible. So, I have a sense that travelling, just like a psychedelic trip can be very beneficial and grow you if done with the right mindset and intention.

Rupert Spira, Michael Singer, Jim Newman, John Wheeler, Peter Dziuban, Lisa Cairns, Adyashanti, Theo, Richard Lang, Angelo DiLullo, Andrew Holecek, Jed McKenna, David Hoffmeister, Anna Brown ...

You basically don't even need the drip tip. That black short but wide drip tip you have there is all you need, no need for the thin thing. What RDA is that? Is your mesh sheet SS316L? You may need to use a different temperature setting than in the instructional video, different sized mesh sheets require different temperatures (or temperature settings, the number on the screen isn't actually the temperature it is producing). You can do a quick vaporization test with small amounts to see how well it vaporizes.

There is this little known guy Alfred Aiken from the 60's, interesting books....

Great investment. Also works for 5-meo perfectly